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Old 25 Sep 2021, 17:14 (Ref:4075433)   #26
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risk of Sutton remaining without a seat for thest of rounds ?
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 17:23 (Ref:4075434)   #27
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Really?
Yes. None of that matters as TOCA fiddles with the boost levels. It would have made sense to make sure it had that extra 0.1/0.2 bar pressure to ensure it was right at the front.
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 18:11 (Ref:4075440)   #28
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Yes. None of that matters as TOCA fiddles with the boost levels. It would have made sense to make sure it had that extra 0.1/0.2 bar pressure to ensure it was right at the front.
And why would they want it to be right at the front under artificial circumstances? They've never said the hybrid car would be faster as far as I know.
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 18:24 (Ref:4075441)   #29
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Yes. None of that matters as TOCA fiddles with the boost levels. It would have made sense to make sure it had that extra 0.1/0.2 bar pressure to ensure it was right at the front.
For what purpose? They want to gather feedback on realistic data.
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 20:07 (Ref:4075465)   #30
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So... Tim Harvey hinted that all was not well in the Laser Tools team in quali?
In what sense? Money?
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 20:39 (Ref:4075472)   #31
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For what purpose? They want to gather feedback on realistic data.
If you are demoing a new technology generally it's good to have it competitive. To the average casual spectator having a former champion running around with the likes of Andy Neate and Jade Edwards is not a good look.
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 21:15 (Ref:4075477)   #32
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In what sense? Money?

That is all he said, that they weren't all happy campers, and didn't expand on it.
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Old 25 Sep 2021, 21:27 (Ref:4075479)   #33
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If you are demoing a new technology generally it's good to have it competitive. To the average casual spectator having a former champion running around with the likes of Andy Neate and Jade Edwards is not a good look.
But they've already stated that it's not meant to be competitive at this point:

'This is a demonstration event of the hybrid system – it is not the full competitive debut of the car'

Which is why I was wondering why anyone would be surprised to see it lower down in the timesheets.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 01:02 (Ref:4075514)   #34
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A bit strange how slow the hybrid is.
Also remember that he was not to provide any other cars with a tow - on such a short track with almost 30 cars, I expect he spent most of his track time jumping out of people's way.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 07:42 (Ref:4075552)   #35
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Great session for Butcher, bodes well for the race. Really bad session for Hill though, can he salvage anything in the race?
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 08:58 (Ref:4075563)   #36
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If you are demoing a new technology generally it's good to have it competitive. To the average casual spectator having a former champion running around with the likes of Andy Neate and Jade Edwards is not a good look.
In quali he was ahead of Jake Hill in a car carrying an equivalent amount of weight so I'd say it was pretty competitive. Plus he was way ahead of Neate and Edwards.

Yes in the race he will most likely be back there with them but that's down to the rules of the demo run which I'm sure they will go over and over in the broadcast to cater for the casual viewer.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 10:22 (Ref:4075573)   #37
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Leaving the pitlane under electric power? Is that it? IS THAT IT?

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Old 26 Sep 2021, 10:38 (Ref:4075576)   #38
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Leaving the pitlane under electric power? Is that it? IS THAT IT?


It’s got the 15second ‘boost’ button aswell…
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:11 (Ref:4075580)   #39
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As much as Rory deserves the win he definitely undertook under yellows there. Thought Ingram didn't really defend and that explains why..
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:12 (Ref:4075582)   #40
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Leaving the pitlane under electric power? Is that it? IS THAT IT?

Yes, that's it.

It's not replacing the ballast system. It's not introducing a new tactical element for drivers to consider. It's not giving more power to the cars for a portion of the lap.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:13 (Ref:4075584)   #41
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I like Butcher but surely that has to be a penalty for the yellow flag pass?

I'm a bit lost here, clear yellow flag but appears the rules haven't been enforced.....just bizarre
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:15 (Ref:4075585)   #42
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Hows Butcher got away with that?
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:15 (Ref:4075586)   #43
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How has no one noticed the overtake under yellow apart from on here?
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:20 (Ref:4075589)   #44
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Only 1, literally 1 F4 car stayed on track at turn 1. WTF?
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:20 (Ref:4075590)   #45
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Hows Butcher got away with that?
Who says he has? It will be investigated during the 30 minute post race period before the results are official.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:24 (Ref:4075591)   #46
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Sutton's pace with full ballast is just unreal, got fastest lap too , he is unstoppable, you can take Hill as comparison who really struggled
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:31 (Ref:4075594)   #47
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Who says he has? It will be investigated during the 30 minute post race period before the results are official.
Only Ingram and people on here seem to have noticed.
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:36 (Ref:4075596)   #48
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Only Ingram and people on here seem to have noticed.
Tim Harvey has since tweeted it
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Old 26 Sep 2021, 11:38 (Ref:4075597)   #49
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Only Ingram and people on here seem to have noticed.
Just because Butcher and the commentators didn't notice I think it's a bit of a leap to say that only Ingram and people here saw it.

Plenty of people posting on Facebook about it, quite a few before any posts here.

At the end of the day it only really matters that speedworks know as they can protest if it wasn't reported from the marshal post.
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Just because Butcher and the commentators didn't notice I think it's a bit of a leap to say that only Ingram and people here saw it.

Plenty of people posting on Facebook about it, quite a few before any posts
At the end of the day it only really matters that speedworks know as they can protest if it wasn't reported from the marshal post.
I would guess ExcelR8 would want to know too ?
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