BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 64

Petoli · 2 Dec 2019, 22:24 (Ref:3944403)

Do BTC still own the 2 FK2 Civics, could they potentially run one of those alongside the 2 FK8

Alfisti · 2 Dec 2019, 22:36 (Ref:3944408)

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Originally Posted by Petoli

Do BTC still own the 2 FK2 Civics, could they potentially run one of those alongside the 2 FK8

As far as I know, yes.

It would make sense... take one of their FK2's put the TOCA bits off of Aidens Merc on it and away you go. It wouldn't surprise me if the Merc shell is heading back to Ciceley as a spare. BTC wanted the TBL and possibly the TOCA bits... not an old Merc.

Although I can still see a third FK8. BTC have invested in their programme, skimping and making do do not appear to be part of their philosophy to date.

(Cue imminent announcement of Lewis Hamilton in a BTC Merc

)

redshoes · 2 Dec 2019, 22:59 (Ref:3944412)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

So will the Mercedes be stripped to recreate 1 of the FK2’s ? Can imaging Dynamics would be happy about building an FK8 with used running gear?

Teams will have spare sub-frames etc and rotate them through the year, so second-hand or otherwise is not really an issue. I'm not sure Dynamics care what you do with the car after they've been paid for it.

redshoes · 2 Dec 2019, 23:02 (Ref:3944413)

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Originally Posted by Petoli

Do BTC still own the 2 FK2 Civics

Yes, and the two Chevrolet Cruzes.

thetool · 2 Dec 2019, 23:04 (Ref:3944414)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Yes, and the two Chevrolet Cruzes.

But are they all still complete cars, and not been stripped down for spec parts to use on their newer machinery? Seems like a lot of stock to hold otherwise.

Pickles · 2 Dec 2019, 23:10 (Ref:3944415)

I thought one of the Cruzes had been purchased by Norlin themselves?

Steel Wheels · 3 Dec 2019, 04:13 (Ref:3944443)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

I thought one of the Cruzes had been purchased by Norlin themselves?

I also though one of the FK2’s belonged to Norlin too. I seem to recall BTC posting pictures of a FK2 being rebuilt, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they ran one alongside the 2 FK8’s.

Millvi · 3 Dec 2019, 08:19 (Ref:3944458)

Looks like progress on a deal for Proctor:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5lOn1Eh...=1isy3tvxa44zj

What’s the thoughts on where he might get a seat? Back to PMR? Collard to WSR? Into the TP Audi perhaps?

Millvi · 3 Dec 2019, 08:27 (Ref:3944459)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Yes, and the two Chevrolet Cruzes.

Be ideal for the Touring Car Trophy perhaps? Might we also see the MGs appear there in 2020...

Millvi · 3 Dec 2019, 08:29 (Ref:3944460)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5lOn1Eh...=1isy3tvxa44zj

Proctor with progress towards a deal it seems.

sceptic · 3 Dec 2019, 08:30 (Ref:3944461)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

I think he has a deal on the table elsewhere and has given WSR this deadline, presumably secured enough funding for a 'cheaper' team and seeing if they'll make the move to keep him.

Jordan won't be in BTCC if not with WSR. He said at the TOCA Awards that he was still looking for sponsors and that Dick was keeping the seat open for him.

I also predict Jake Hill will remain at TPC.

Millvi · 3 Dec 2019, 08:41 (Ref:3944463)

Who might get the 3rd WSR seat if not AJ? Need a serious budget to seal a drive there. But surely WSR would also want someone to mount a serious championship(s) campaign.

Millvi · 3 Dec 2019, 08:42 (Ref:3944464)

Proctor on Facebook and Instagram suggesting a deal is close to being sealed. TP Audi perhaps? A return to PMR with Collard to WSR?

Pickles · 3 Dec 2019, 09:55 (Ref:3944473)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Jordan won't be in BTCC if not with WSR. He said at the TOCA Awards that he was still looking for sponsors and that Dick was keeping the seat open for him.

I also predict Jake Hill will remain at TPC.

Can't see Jake moving up to AmD?

Robshillito1990 · 3 Dec 2019, 10:14 (Ref:3944476)

Going by the latest post on the raceworx facebook page BTC havent got Moffats mercedes at all. Its still sat in the laser workshop all built up.

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2019, 10:17 (Ref:3944477)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

"You know my terms..." ?

WSR will need someone to bring money to run the car, surely they are the ones dictating terms.

Agreed.

It reads to me like AJ's ego meant that he had to hijack a WSR announcement to try and make it about himself.

At this time, WSR have a 4-time champion available, including back-to-back tiles, along with a highly competitive car and another promising driver.

AJ without the Pirtek backing seems to need WSR more than WSR need him.

If I was running a team, and my team had just made a self-promoting tweet - I'd be pretty miffed if a potential driver used twitter as a tool to try and force my hand into making a decision.

Surely a private phone call is better than calling out the team publicly? Does AJ expect DB's hand will be forced by a public clamouring on twitter to sign him?

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2019, 10:19 (Ref:3944480)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Going by the latest post on the raceworx facebook page BTC havent got Moffats mercedes at all. Its still sat in the laser workshop all built up.

If they're not planning on running the Merc, and were only interested in the TBL that came with it, maybe then:
They have an agreement that they'll collect the car at a later date?
They sold the car back and Laser are planning on keeping it / using it for spares?
They have sold the car on to Ciceley who are still to collect from Livingston?

RS67 · 3 Dec 2019, 10:37 (Ref:3944486)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Agreed.

It reads to me like AJ's ego meant that he had to hijack a WSR announcement to try and make it about himself.

At this time, WSR have a 4-time champion available, including back-to-back tiles, along with a highly competitive car and another promising driver.

AJ without the Pirtek backing seems to need WSR more than WSR need him.

If I was running a team, and my team had just made a self-promoting tweet - I'd be pretty miffed if a potential driver used twitter as a tool to try and force my hand into making a decision.

Surely a private phone call is better than calling out the team publicly? Does AJ expect DB's hand will be forced by a public clamouring on twitter to sign him?

WSR's reply to the tweet was something like "Don't worry, we still love you" so appears they weren't too concerned about it and could be doing all they can from their side to see that he remains in the team.

B0U170NS · 3 Dec 2019, 10:38 (Ref:3944487)

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Originally Posted by Robin Marriott

Not sure if anyone needs tickets for Silverstone but if you do, they’ve for a Black Friday deal on their website - buy tickets for April, get the September ones FOC.

Cheers for this - 2 tickets bought. I wouldn't have known about this otherwise

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2019, 10:42 (Ref:3944488)

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Originally Posted by RS67

WSR's reply to the tweet was something like "Don't worry, we still love you" so appears they weren't too concerned about it and could be doing all they can from their side to see that he remains in the team.

"Don't worry, we still love you" sounds like an "It's not your fault, it's mine" end of relationship moment.

I don't see anything from their exchange that would suggest WSR are doing all they can? Just keeping things amicable.

Evantra · 3 Dec 2019, 10:49 (Ref:3944490)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Agreed.

It reads to me like AJ's ego meant that he had to hijack a WSR announcement to try and make it about himself.

At this time, WSR have a 4-time champion available, including back-to-back tiles, along with a highly competitive car and another promising driver.

AJ without the Pirtek backing seems to need WSR more than WSR need him.

If I was running a team, and my team had just made a self-promoting tweet - I'd be pretty miffed if a potential driver used twitter as a tool to try and force my hand into making a decision.

Surely a private phone call is better than calling out the team publicly? Does AJ expect DB's hand will be forced by a public clamouring on twitter to sign him?

Agreed. He makes so many arrogant comments like this, and that's why I find it hard to like him.

Would much rather someone else got the 3rd BMW.

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2019, 11:03 (Ref:3944495)

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Originally Posted by antnee

From earlier in this topic - most manufacturers do still have a 2.0. I think within a few years it will become a problem though.

On the flip side - if the Toyota struggles to challenge at the front regularly this year, could Speedworks throw a spanner in the FWD category and put the 2.0 Boxer engine from the GT86 into the Corolla.
(Highly unlikely I know, but seems to be permitted under homologation requirements).

And while we're at it - when the 2021 rumour thread starts, how about a Mazda 6 with the new RX-9 rotary engine?

touring fan01 · 3 Dec 2019, 11:18 (Ref:3944501)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

On the flip side - if the Toyota struggles to challenge at the front regularly this year, could Speedworks throw a spanner in the FWD category and put the 2.0 Boxer engine from the GT86 into the Corolla.
(Highly unlikely I know, but seems to be permitted under homologation requirements).

And while we're at it - when the 2021 rumour thread starts, how about a Mazda 6 with the new RX-9 rotary engine?

boxer and rotary engine both not allowed anymore. must be inline 4 cyl

Johno.UK · 3 Dec 2019, 11:22 (Ref:3944503)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

At this time, WSR have a 4-time champion available, including back-to-back tiles, along with a highly competitive car and another promising driver.

Would he be four time champion without AJ missing three races through no fault of his own though?

Personally I don't see anything wrong in the slightest with what AJ has done on Twitter. Times have changed.

crmalcolm · 3 Dec 2019, 11:26 (Ref:3944505)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

boxer and rotary engine both not allowed anymore. must be inline 4 cyl

Has that been published anywhere?

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