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Old 30 Jun 2019, 17:29 (Ref:3915053)   #126
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the current standings

Turks 194
Jordan 160
Cook 147
Butcher 146
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the rest is pretty much out of it
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 17:41 (Ref:3915055)   #127
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Hill given 20 second penalty, Jelley gets the win.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 17:41 (Ref:3915056)   #128
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20 second penalty for Hill.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 17:52 (Ref:3915061)   #129
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congrats to Jelley and Team Parker who lost thier virginity

that also makes it a BMW won all 3 races...
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 17:58 (Ref:3915062)   #130
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BTW nobody at AMD had the foresight to tell Butcher to just sit back and inherit the win ?!
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:06 (Ref:3915065)   #131
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That was the thought going through my mind.

I guess though Rory didn’t want another win ‘given’ to him.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:10 (Ref:3915068)   #132
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Hill given 20 second penalty, Jelley gets the win.
How is this a consistent penalty? Cook was deemed at fault for race 2 incident (although admittedly I didn't see this race as the f1 took priority) but kept his 10th place. Surely the same should be applied to Jake, he should keep the race win but get a gird drop for the next round.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:12 (Ref:3915070)   #133
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Well up to then it was a great finish to BTCC, but suspect unless something happens to stop the bmw's this season is not going to be a classic.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:16 (Ref:3915076)   #134
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BTW nobody at AMD had the foresight to tell Butcher to just sit back and inherit the win ?!
This baffled me aswell. It was very obvious Jake was going to get a penalty. I thought they may have told Jake to let Rory through so he got his first win on the road. Although again I was surprised someone as good as Rory made such a silly mistake to lose his positions.

In other news is Bobby T finally losing hope with HARD?
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:27 (Ref:3915083)   #135
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Well up to then it was a great finish to BTCC, but suspect unless something happens to stop the bmw's this season is not going to be a classic.
Well, wasn't 1996 or 1997 a classic?

It was obvious Jake is going to get that penalty. One thing I cannot understand. The contact was pretty early in the race. Why wasn't decision taken (announced) during the race so that Hill could serve a drive-through? I mean, it's a bit odd when a guy celebrates his victory after seeing a chequered flag even if almost everyone is convinced he's going to get a penalty. If the stewards couldn't decide it during the race, it'd be better to give him grid drop for another race.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:32 (Ref:3915086)   #136
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Well, wasn't 1996 or 1997 a classic?

It was obvious Jake is going to get that penalty. One thing I cannot understand. The contact was pretty early in the race. Why wasn't decision taken (announced) during the race so that Hill could serve a drive-through? I mean, it's a bit odd when a guy celebrates his victory after seeing a chequered flag even if almost everyone is convinced he's going to get a penalty. If the stewards couldn't decide it during the race, it'd be better to give him grid drop for another race.
They don't have real time telemetry. I guess they wanted to see the data and onboards from both cars before making a decision. It wasn't cut and dried from the tv shots.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:34 (Ref:3915087)   #137
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They don't have real time telemetry. I guess they wanted to see the data and onboards from both cars before making a decision. It wasn't cut and dried from the tv shots.
Okay, thanks for clearing it, I just didn't know that. Still a shame, would be a better feeling for Jelley to really cross the finish line first and less of a heartbreak for Hill and Trade Price.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:34 (Ref:3915088)   #138
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What happened to Plato’s car? Was it just engine failure or did he crash?
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:34 (Ref:3915089)   #139
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This baffled me aswell. It was very obvious Jake was going to get a penalty. I thought they may have told Jake to let Rory through so he got his first win on the road. Although again I was surprised someone as good as Rory made such a silly mistake to lose his positions.

In other news is Bobby T finally losing hope with HARD?
They are two separate teams. AMD just run the cars for Trade Price Cars.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:36 (Ref:3915091)   #140
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Engine failure, something fell from beneath the car just before he pulled off.
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BTW nobody at AMD had the foresight to tell Butcher to just sit back and inherit the win ?!
I’d guess it’s because until the penalty is announced, nothing is a certainty.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:43 (Ref:3915097)   #142
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I was at Islands hairpin for the last race where Plato retired his car. Did the TV pick up that he ignored the marshals and went on to the track behind the tyre wall on the outside of the hairpin for about 5 laps? He was making out that he was observing the cornering difference between Collards car and the others, but would going beyond the marshal point be tolerated of any other driver? Not to mention he may distract the eye of drivers cornering - which may have been his tactics. Irresponsible!

And then there was the palava of him thumbing a lift of the warm down lap when Matt Neal stopped and one of the Motorbase cars rear ended him!

One rule for Jason and another for everyone else - not setting a great example to young drivers

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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:44 (Ref:3915098)   #143
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All in all driving standards were pretty poor today, I'm expecting about half a dozen drivers to be penalised in some way...?

Hopefully just down to the narrowness of the Oulton layout which I think probably needs a look at in the coming years.
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Old 30 Jun 2019, 18:49 (Ref:3915100)   #144
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Well up to then it was a great finish to BTCC, but suspect unless something happens to stop the bmw's this season is not going to be a classic.

Did anyone else get the impression from Dan Cammish R2 interview that he seemed to imply he had worked something out about what WSR/BMW were doing for their advantage?
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In other news is Bobby T finally losing hope with HARD?

About time Hard had another driver shuffle, lets wait to see who lines up at Snetterton
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well he did was behind WSR for 2 whole races ...
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About time Hard had another driver shuffle, lets wait to see who lines up at Snetterton
On that subject, it was good to see Boardley fighting for points today.
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I think I'm due a drive for HARD soon.
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I think I'm due a drive for HARD soon.
HARD is now the only team who competed at least a full season already who didn't win a single race

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