McLaren & Honda back together - Page 5

mountainstar · 17 May 2013, 05:15 (Ref:3248725)

Clearly a logical deal all around. It was sure to happen and it did.

frostie · 17 May 2013, 07:36 (Ref:3248755)

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

If the Castrol sponsorship for Honda extends to F1, I want to see an F1 car with the Castrol livery.

That would be pretty cool, I remember when I was a kid I always loved the Castrol Honda's in World Superbikes:

And then obviously their Super GT cars are pretty cool looking too!

**gomick** · 17 May 2013, 08:01 (Ref:3248767)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Toyota Racing-Honda

In AMA Supercross, Joe Gibbs runs the Toyota sponsored Yamaha's

Marbot · 17 May 2013, 14:32 (Ref:3248889)

Fiat had their logos plastered all over Yamaha's MotoGP bikes.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 17 May 2013, 14:47 (Ref:3248892)

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostie

That would be pretty cool, I remember when I was a kid I always loved the Castrol Honda's in World Superbikes:

And then obviously their Super GT cars are pretty cool looking too!

Those are cool liveries. I always quite liked the Castrol livery on the AAR Eagles and Reynards and they used Toyota engines.

Kempi · 17 May 2013, 14:52 (Ref:3248897)

Yes, but neither FIAT nor Toyota have a bike line of products. And while Yamaha at one time was an engine supplier in F1, they do not sell cars (at least not to my knowledge). So it is marketingwise not an issue to have the sponsorship on a bike.

A Toyota-Honda on the other hand is a total no go.

**Bononi** · 17 May 2013, 15:56 (Ref:3248921)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kempi

Yes, but neither FIAT nor Toyota have a bike line of products. And while Yamaha at one time was an engine supplier in F1, they do not sell cars (at least not to my knowledge). So it is marketingwise not an issue to have the sponsorship on a bike.

A Toyota-Honda on the other hand is a total no go.

Thanks for posting before I do it myself. Exactly the above !

p-matt · 17 May 2013, 20:10 (Ref:3249081)

BMW-Sauber Ferrari?!

321Go · 17 May 2013, 23:51 (Ref:3249152)

So will we have another retro team in 2015, possibly 2014?
A Williams-Honda perhaps?

And rumour suggests McLaren will lose the silver on their cars next year.

Marbot · 18 May 2013, 00:20 (Ref:3249161)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kempi

Yes, but neither FIAT nor Toyota have a bike line of products. And while Yamaha at one time was an engine supplier in F1, they do not sell cars (at least not to my knowledge). So it is marketingwise not an issue to have the sponsorship on a bike.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bononi

Thanks for posting before I do it myself. Exactly the above !

I was just throwing that out there as another example of a motor vehicle manufacturer sponsoring another motor vehicle manufacturer. The keen eyed among us might also be forgiven for thinking that the Ferrari F1 car is also a Fiat F1 car, but that's obviously not the case.

**Bononi** · 18 May 2013, 02:00 (Ref:3249178)

Oh really ??

**GTRMagic** · 18 May 2013, 02:43 (Ref:3249184)

While if you believe the boys & girls at Autosport... Here, McLaren may not be the only Honda-powered team in 2015....

VIVA GT · 18 May 2013, 07:45 (Ref:3249240)

I'm also wondering if Honda will enter this year with one of the 'lower order' teams to gain experience like they did with Spirit before the full Williams Honda effort...

Marbot · 18 May 2013, 12:19 (Ref:3249349)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bononi

Oh really ??

You'd be surprised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

While if you believe the boys & girls at Autosport... Here, McLaren may not be the only Honda-powered team in 2015....

I think that it's very possible that McLaren will not be the only team to have Honda engines in 2015.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

I'm also wondering if Honda will enter this year with one of the 'lower order' teams to gain experience like they did with Spirit before the full Williams Honda effort...

Probably not, but they may stick something in the back of a WEC car, now and again.

Honda currently have a single turbo V6 engine in Indycar, so perhaps some useful info from that.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 May 2013, 16:12 (Ref:3251191)

An interesting article from Autosport, on how McLaren see their future with Honda.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107558

**Bononi** · 21 May 2013, 19:17 (Ref:3251316)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

An interesting article from Autosport, on how McLaren see their future with Honda.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107558

I certainly was in the right !

chrisrb2002 · 22 May 2013, 07:09 (Ref:3251518)

Was just thinking, this deal really redefines McLarens brand, more average worker than Director of the business which you work at. will be interesting to see what associate sponsors / partners they will achieve through this partnership.

321Go · 18 Oct 2013, 06:10 (Ref:3319309)

Mugen music plays!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=431h2...ature=youtu.be

JeremySmith · 18 Oct 2013, 22:23 (Ref:3319634)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

While if you believe the boys & girls at Autosport... Here, McLaren may not be the only Honda-powered team in 2015....

Their engine sounds good to me...

I am very excited that they are back in the game...

TRuss · 22 Oct 2013, 00:40 (Ref:3321404)

What's Mugen got to do with it?

321Go · 24 Dec 2013, 00:04 (Ref:3347430)

And it begins... the usual whinging by Ferrari.

Stefano Domenicali says Honda has an advantage.

"We could not enforce Honda to freeze its engine as it is not yet registered in the world of F1 and, above all, an attitude of "closure" would alienate any other manufacturers who might be interested.

"We realise that the Japanese will be able to enjoy a great advantage, being able to adapt its engine as a function of the problems that will be recorded during of the season, but we have not been able to do anything."

Domenicali says Ferrari "could not enforce" Honda to freeze development of the engine by 28th Feb 2014. Does that mean Ferrari tried to stop Honda but failed? Or is just a case of wrong wording and he should have maybe said "cannot enforce"?
Would not surprise me one bit if Ferrari actually tried to force Honda to stop development after February next year, but was told no by the FIA.

TRuss · 24 Dec 2013, 02:36 (Ref:3347466)

The engine freeze is in two months?

JacobP · 24 Dec 2013, 04:13 (Ref:3347477)

The Ferrari PR machine is just amazing. I mean, for the last month, every other day there was something from Luca di Montezemolo being published on all news sites, now from Domenicali. Ferrari may be finishing 2nd or 3rd in constructor standings, but they sure generate the noise worthy champions.

The whining about Honda is completely unfair. Any idiot would predict that in 2015, Honda's absence from 2014 season will be a handicap, not an advantage, since the engines will not be race tested. Yes, Honda will be able to record and study the problems of the 2014 season engine failures, but it's not like other manufacturers won't be doing the same.

321Go · 24 Dec 2013, 04:23 (Ref:3347480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRuss

The engine freeze is in two months?

Yes. Have a read of the 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations , page 46, Appendix 4, power unit homologation.

321Go · 24 Dec 2013, 04:49 (Ref:3347484)

Off topic, but reading Appendix 7, Red Bull Racing's entry fee for the 2014 season is $US 3'633'724!

Compared to the entry fee for the 2012 season, which was US $397'899. Bit of a difference.
Although, the entry fee for this year were pretty similar to next year, so the teams are not complaining as much this year.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
[Rumours] McLaren and Honda Back Again?	Paradise City	Formula One	101	4 Feb 2012 01:18
[Rumours] McLaren to buy back Mercedes?	Marbot	Formula One	20	22 Sep 2011 00:27
Come back to CCWS Honda and Toyota!!!!!!!!!!	mabs_nsx	ChampCar World Series	27	16 Apr 2005 14:09
Alesi is back...in F1...in a Mclaren!	Gt_R	Formula One	26	16 Feb 2002 04:47