Round 14 - Moto GP 2011, Aragon

jhansen · 16 Sep 2011, 02:28 (Ref:2956192)

Well, the Moto GP circus is in the middle of nowhere, err Aragon.

Big news? Rossi will use an aluminum adapted GP11.1 and...

It seems just about everyone is now going to Japan.

skells22 · 16 Sep 2011, 12:09 (Ref:2956379)

meanwhile we had a tech issue at the track meaning everything is behind for FP2 time wise.

skells22 · 16 Sep 2011, 13:16 (Ref:2956406)

another power cut before the Motgp guys come out to play for the 2nd time today. cue delay 2 which has no ETA for a start time

skells22 · 16 Sep 2011, 14:27 (Ref:2956429)

we now have to wait for tommorow as yet another power cut meant the FP2 is canned for today. Cue a few angry fans at the track i think.

jhansen · 16 Sep 2011, 14:52 (Ref:2956435)

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Originally Posted by skells22

we now have to wait for tommorow as yet another power cut meant the FP2 is canned for today. Cue a few angry fans at the track i think.

Seriously! That wouldn't sit well with me.

skells22 · 16 Sep 2011, 15:30 (Ref:2956447)

time table just be said about for saturday and as both MotoGP and Moto2 loss time because of the power cut we have as follow 125cc start at 8.45am which is the only one that will be normal on the time side of things, motogp will now have a 1 hour 15 minute practise at 9.35am and same goes for Moto2 as that starts at 11.00am to 12.15 pm

**ghinzani** · 18 Sep 2011, 09:46 (Ref:2957548)

Faubels do or die for 2nd at the end of the 125s resulted in a face full of gravel. Had to go for it though.

chunder · 19 Sep 2011, 17:02 (Ref:2958131)

Utter garbage, paint drying rot.

Time to watch something else I think. Managed to condense a GP to this.

Watch the start, 5 seconds, Stoner leads, FFW to end, Stoner wins and hardly any positions change from grid otehr than the usual soft lap freaks who qualify well.

Thanks Honda for making the best championship in the world into the worst example of so called sport I have ever seen.

Goodnight

**Dani Filth** · 19 Sep 2011, 17:21 (Ref:2958137)

at least 15 laps of Moto2 were really good ...

jhansen · 19 Sep 2011, 17:24 (Ref:2958139)

It hasn't been great spectacle, that's for sure. Even this race it was hard to watch Stoner's maistro, given the horid sight of his one-off Repsol paint job. The top two or three guys are running so hard it is very hard for them to run together, much less pass each other. But down the order, the guys running more inconsistent lap times can actually fight it out a bit. Unfortunately, that doesn't make for great theatre. And it certainly isn't what made this series so great in the past.

**Dani Filth** · 19 Sep 2011, 18:11 (Ref:2958168)

but can the 1000 save us ?? :-S

jhansen · 19 Sep 2011, 18:20 (Ref:2958175)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

but can the 1000 save us ?? :-S

I dont' think so, not unless we go back to pre-genius electronics.

chunder · 20 Sep 2011, 05:36 (Ref:2958324)

Moto 2 wasnt alright at all! You are sitting there watching 10 blokes try and beat up Marques, he sits there for a few laps, lets them do it, then just runs away with it.

He has such a huge speed advantage and is honestly playing with the field, it's actually rather embarrassing to watch I find, and it makes me feel sad for bike racing.

Same as Terol in 125, ASPAR is team racing and allowing Terol to get away from Faubel, why dies he need this? His bike is miles faster anyway, such a poor thing to do.

GP, Stoner just gets a poor start, is better on colder tyres, nips through on the Honda lane and race over after a few laps, Pedrosa isnt quick enough and the non Honda's cant make their tyres last. How fascinating and thoroughlly impressive Honda, thanks for the unentertainment! It's like watching Doohan in the late ninties! But at least he was sliding, and the camera's left him to it!

GORDON STREETER · 20 Sep 2011, 07:44 (Ref:2958347)

I was at Goodwood and recorded it (or so I thought) as I set it wrong, I'm glad I did !

cg7aa · 20 Sep 2011, 09:06 (Ref:2958386)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

at least 15 laps of Moto2 were really good ...

I agree with you. Yes, Marquez was always going to run away with it when he got to the front but the pack racing was good while it lasted.

Surely Kalex couldn't have thrown in the towel already? Aren't they supposed to be these Bavarian tech genius' or is that all commentator stereotyping nonsense? They've gotta find something and quickly or the Swiss Suter steamroller will crash them to bits.

Whatever happened to Moriwaki...

mac · 22 Sep 2011, 05:41 (Ref:2959392)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

Thanks Honda for making the best championship in the world into the worst example of so called sport I have ever seen

Don't blame Honda for doing the best job... Blame the others for not being able to keep up with them.

chunder · 22 Sep 2011, 06:34 (Ref:2959402)

It's not a case of blaming them, but in all honesty they are the only ones taking 2011 massively seriously.

Let's look back a minute and see who won the majority of championships when Yamaha and Ducati were taking it more seriously!

Honda have spent years having good but not the best riders on their bike, thats a big difference, but they have developed this bike far more than Yamaha. Suzuki are sknit and Ducati couldnt make a good bike out of that thing if they tried!

That was not the case a few years ago with Kawasaki and people like Roberts and Aprilia all making half decent bikes. in 2011 the best bike by far is a Honda, no question, kinda of like Ferrari when Schuey was driving for them, no contest really

mac · 22 Sep 2011, 20:34 (Ref:2959711)

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Originally Posted by chunder

It's not a case of blaming them, but in all honesty they are the only ones taking 2011 massively seriously.

Kudos to Honda then... They deserve their success - and the others deserve their lack of it...

Are you saying that Honda should deliberately try less hard for the good of the sport?

chunder · 22 Sep 2011, 21:24 (Ref:2959728)

Haha, you guys crack me up

All I am saying is that for me read that again, for me! Honda have bough this championship.

All that time when Rossi was winning on a Yam, especially in the early years 2004-6 Honda had a far better biie, but kept sticking with chumps liek Gibernau and Biaggi instead of trying to find someone new. They did in the end with Hayden, and then treated him like an outcast while he was trying to win them a title as Puig and Repsol forced him out and Pedrosa in.

Dani has proved to be wafer thin despite having numerousn things done for him in a bike built around him and Bridgestone bought in.

Suppo got the final piece, Stoner, and he was bought in to win.

I have no problem with them winning, but with the advantage they have over the field for me it taints the series, I have turned off mroe GP races (pretty much every single one) than I have ever before.

If you want to watch a guy making everyone look stupid fair enough, for me sport should at least be watchable. MotoGP at the moment is the poorest show on earth in motorsport terms.

jhansen · 23 Sep 2011, 15:08 (Ref:2959981)

I think Honda had the most to lose by not winning an 800 title, so they opted to go full tilt for the championship this year. I can't blame them for that. They deserve it full stop. But I agree with chunder, the series has lots its luster. While I appreciate the talent it takes to ride these bikes at the pace they are being pushed at, the spectacle is just not what it used to be. We've basically got F1 now, which is a shame. Before that, well it was special indeed.

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