Nissan 2013 CotF Unveiling

[Hawkwood]

Originally Posted by peckstar

lots of red! makes me wonder why we have linked them to Black so much (yes the JD link)




also most of the major news websites are carrying an article on it

Now that is one sexy looking beast!

[FIRE]

Great looking car!

[douglasjames671]

The Altima looks awesome, and the paint job reminds me ever so subtly of DJR's First Rock and V8 Telecoms designs from 2006 . . . looks amazing

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Do we call it a Merc or an Erebus?

Neither, it's a COtF.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by douglasjames671

The Altima looks awesome, and the paint job reminds me ever so subtly of DJR's First Rock and V8 Telecoms designs from 2006 . . . looks amazing

[Devastated Fan]

Originally Posted by FAS33

will they be using the VF next year? its not even been sold to the public yet, I saw one picture of it from a NASCAR site (mostly covered) but if you got an imagination or really really good eyes you can sort of see wat it will look like.


just saw a mock up of the Nissan and read that JD will still be a sponsor for KR, it definatly doesnt look anywhere near a Holden commodore, as for the people saying that COTF is just a way of gettin further away from stock, so are all the other big Motor racing series, V8SC are just playin Catchup

Believe the VF will be released in Feb/March next year & the VF was to start the year off at the Clipsal

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Devastated Fan

the VF was to start the year off at the Clipsal

correct. They are planning on testing the VF aero secretly so that the shape is not revealed until Holden want it revealed, or Clipsal, whichever comes 1st.

Anyone live near Woomera?

[kittle]

You have to give credit to the Kelly boys for the decision to move to another brand. The fact it has cost so much for them to build the first car is a huge task for a team with little development equipment and knowledge. I guess when you have a lot of the staff come from Perkins Motorsport it helps.

With the Team extending their premises in which it will double in size from next year and building four cars and also providing materials to rival teams it’s a great effort.

Now let’s hope this car can produce results for them. A great looking car.

[douglasjames671]

Thanks GTR had my colours around the wrong way . . . but hey, haven't these two young blokes, their team, and family, done a rippa job . . . full credit to them

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by douglasjames671

The Altima looks awesome, and the paint job reminds me ever so subtly of DJR's First Rock and V8 Telecoms designs from 2006 . . . looks amazing

God I hope its a bit more successful...

Originally Posted by Axeman444

correct. They are planning on testing the VF aero secretly so that the shape is not revealed until Holden want it revealed, or Clipsal, whichever comes 1st.

They have apparently tested in secret at Lang Lang...

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Mixer

They have apparently tested in secret at Lang Lang...

I thought the rules only allowed testing on approved days at designated tracks.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by bluesport

I thought the rules only allowed testing on approved days at designated tracks.

Hence "apparently" I can't establish the veracity of the statement.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Hence "apparently" I can't establish the veracity of the statement.

Well, who apparently told you?

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by bluesport

I thought the rules only allowed testing on approved days at designated tracks.

Only if the car has been registered with V8SC, by one of their teams, runs on the control tyre with control ECU etc. Prior to all that happening, they can fill their boots.

Ford for example built a car, tested it themselves at their proving ground before presenting it to V8SC a few years ago. They didn't have the control rubber or ECU but it let them get the thing about where they wanted it. It was the same car that was then shown to the public at Bathurst that year. FG I think from memory.

May well be that each manufacturer has been given dispensation to do some limited COTF running with a V8SC observer present prior to presenting the car for evaluation. The rules allow for that approach as well.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Only if the car has been registered with V8SC, by one of their teams, runs on the control tyre with control ECU etc. Prior to all that happening, they can fill their boots.

Ford for example built a car, tested it themselves at their proving ground before presenting it to V8SC a few years ago. They didn't have the control rubber or ECU but it let them get the thing about where they wanted it. It was the same car that was then shown to the public at Bathurst that year. FG I think from memory.

May well be that each manufacturer has been given dispensation to do some limited COTF running with a V8SC observer present prior to presenting the car for evaluation. The rules allow for that approach as well.

OK, thanks for that.

[Downoz]

From news on the COTF no one can keep the transaxle cool enough, so no doubt there will be heaps of testing done by everyone to try to rectify this major problem.

[Umai Naa]

Yeah, there has been already.

Every team that has rolled a COTF chassis onto a track has been asked by V8SC to undertake testing, and come up with ideas on how to stop the transaxle from melting.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Reload

Peckstar, you obviously have me confused with someone else as i never made any comment regarding Nissan never going to happen, in fact if you go through all of the relevant threads you will find that i have had very little to say on the COTF at all.
Feel free to find the my posts that you are talking about and i will await the apology ???
If stalking is looking through other sections of ten tenths like many do, then i must be a stalker ????

No, no, no. Following someone like an angry mother goose is stalking.

No offense meant.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by douglasjames671

The Altima looks awesome, and the paint job reminds me ever so subtly of DJR's First Rock and V8 Telecoms designs from 2006 . . . looks amazing

I could see why you thought that, the colour is a very Orangey Red in these pics

In Auto Action it was much more normal red. (much less orange)

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Only if the car has been registered with V8SC, by one of their teams, runs on the control tyre with control ECU etc. Prior to all that happening, they can fill their boots.

Ford for example built a car, tested it themselves at their proving ground before presenting it to V8SC a few years ago. They didn't have the control rubber or ECU but it let them get the thing about where they wanted it. It was the same car that was then shown to the public at Bathurst that year. FG I think from memory.

May well be that each manufacturer has been given dispensation to do some limited COTF running with a V8SC observer present prior to presenting the car for evaluation. The rules allow for that approach as well.

WP01 was fanged around Lang Lang plenty of times also, remember the uproar?

The Ford you talk of was FG01

[peckstar]

Nissan V8 Supercar too slippery?

Standard Altima door skins, bonnet, boot and roof have been used. Changes are limited to elongated front and "slightly flared" rear guards, Kelly said.

But observers are already noting the slippery Nissan may potentially have an unassailable aerodynamic advantage over the incumbent Supercars. Not only is the Nissan windshield rake steeper but overall frontal area is reduced.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

correct. They are planning on testing the VF aero secretly so that the shape is not revealed until Holden want it revealed, or Clipsal, whichever comes 1st.

Anyone live near Woomera?

Originally Posted by Mixer

They have apparently tested in secret at Lang Lang...

The only secret part about the new CotF for Holden is that the body shape is now a not-yet-released VF model. Of course there will be secrecy around the car when Joe Average hasnt seen it yet.

The 3 teams who have built CotF Holdens (888, HRT & GRM) have all knocked up VE models, to presumably give a performance baseline that can be compared to existing equipment, and also not giving away the VF package shape before Holden wants to release it to the general public

Some of the challenge around the SBR/Erebus/AMG E-Class car is that it too isnt released just yet... not is the Nissan Altima when you think about it.

WP01 was the original chassis used for homologation and testing proof of concept of the VE chassis. It only had one test at Lang Lang from memory, certainly not the kind of running attributed to it by sections of the media at the time.

As I understand it, Mr D'Alberto has this chassis in his shed for sale..

Interestingly, if Holden wins all 3 races at Abu Dhabi, the final race win will represent 100 wins for the VE/VEII model Commodore. Not bad in 6 years! Better than BA/BF. Better than Ford Sierra. Or Nissan Skyline GT-R!

[Umai Naa]

I have read somewhere in recent times, that the VF bodywork had seen track duties on an existing Car of the Present chassis at Lang Lang. Since then, it has been reported that subesquent testing of the VF panelwork will involve a COTF chassis, and to be conducted under the eyes of V8SC officialdom, and no one else.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

I have read somewhere in recent times, that the VF bodywork had seen track duties on an existing Car of the Present chassis at Lang Lang. Since then, it has been reported that subesquent testing of the VF panelwork will involve a COTF chassis, and to be conducted under the eyes of V8SC officialdom, and no one else.

WP also shipped off 2 cars to India in semi-V8Supercar spec.. who knows if they were the cars being used for evaluation?

The NisMo squad are relying on their computer modelling for their new Altima to perform as they expect. Computer modelling without real world correlation didnt do too much for Mr Wirth and his time at Marussia, so you might imagine that the same will become true for NisMo..

We shall see

[TSR]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

WP also shipped off 2 cars to India in semi-V8Supercar spec.. who knows if they were the cars being used for evaluation?

The NisMo squad are relying on their computer modelling for their new Altima to perform as they expect. Computer modelling without real world correlation didnt do too much for Mr Wirth and his time at Marussia, so you might imagine that the same will become true for NisMo..

We shall see

Why India, what there thats not here in Aus???