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Old 17 Jul 2003, 09:17 (Ref:663644)   #31
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do you from your armchair over there across the pond know better???
At the risk of starting another war haven't we heard this recently in another context.............
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 09:46 (Ref:663654)   #32
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I wonder if Lord March is aware of the controversey his excellent idea has provoked.

For my part I don't go to it mainly because I like to see my cars racing. I do like meeting Derek B and Sir Stirling etc. But I prefer circuits to hills.
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 10:44 (Ref:663681)   #33
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The Festival is a wonderful event but as I have said before - I prefer the Revival in September for the reasons that Peter has said above. The cars seem so much at home there and the racing - wow! The Tourist Trophy GT grid is worth at least £30 million alone. Coys too was a great event but somehow, an ERA does not seem right between acres of gravel and miles of armco at Silverstone. You don't get that at the Goodwood Revival.
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 10:44 (Ref:663682)   #34
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Isnt the general consensus that its a great occassion but just a pity we are not seeing all of them driving 10/10ths? But I dont think its worth falling out over it!! And certainly the guy in the Hemi whatever is great value - surely we all agree on that?!
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 10:54 (Ref:663686)   #35
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Hmmm. Very interesting responses.
Vitesse,and the Daytona Charger about the pace of the Pop-mobile, so you can't blame the startline marshalls. What should they do leave 4 minutues between cars.
As to 'it's only supposd to be practice' comment. When I practice for the first time at a hillclimb am not familliar with, I treat it as a bit of fast road driving, which ain't 20mph.
As for the big American behemoth's not suitable for English hillclimbs. Maybe but it's supposed to be a NASCAR racer. Even American competition car's can corner. If alternatively the car was not in good shape mechanically, then don't as an owner be arrogant enough to accept an invitation to a world class.event. I certainly couldn't bring a car to any event thet I was to compete in, if it wasn't spot on.
Sorry Mrs Blackx, but Lee's spot on when he says it shouldn't be a parade lap for millionaire's to publisise their wealth in front of the peasants. However I also agree that none of this is good reason to miss the event as it i still, just about, the jewel in the motorsport weekend calendar.
It's not envy either. Being involved in motorsport for over 25 years, I been pleased to observe that real racers are the same under the skin, as each other. Whether they have a Peugeot 205 or a Ferrari 250 SWB they have the same enthusiasm for winning. It's the ones with money but no enthusiasm, that are hard to like.
Any way nobody's asking for 10/10ths from everyone. Just don't give us 2/10ths.
Remember this is supposed 'The Festival of Speed'
Incidentaly the gate reciepts were 158,000!

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Old 17 Jul 2003, 11:24 (Ref:663707)   #36
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So this was round about the soapbox start then? Just before the wall? In that case, I'd agree he shouldn't have been showboating without having given the start marshals adequate warning, as that's a blind section for drivers coming out of the shadows. I also take your point about a longer period between cars, but this is due to the intensity of running on the practice days, not to mention the inevitable delays when cars fail on the start line or on the course.

The point has been made above though, that drivers are there for different reasons: some just to show rare cars, others to demonstrate at full chat - the class system adopted at the FoS is more at fault here than anything else: while the Charger and Baby Bertha are similar animals, they were obviously there for a different purpose. It would be better if the running order were to be separated so that the demo runs were all completed before the competitive runs - that way there'd be no problem ....
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 11:25 (Ref:663709)   #37
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Goodwood FOS

Speaking as a Kyalami (South African) marshal participating in my first Goodwood Festival of Speed I have to say that I have never enjoyed myself so much before. As my brother in law Steve was the only survivor of the tragic accident 3 years ago it was with trepidation that I signed up. As I was marshaling with my sister Jackie we were put on the turnaround at the start line. I couldn't think of a better place to be. As it was a typical "South African" weather day,it meant that the drivers were baking in their cars whilst lined up waiting for their turn, so Jackie and I went around using umbrellas to give some shelter to the drivers. As I wear a different overall to UK marshals it was a opening line to start chatting to the drivers. What wonderful friendly guys Johnny Herbert, Alan McNish, Graeme Wight (snr & jnr)and Jorg Muller amongst many others are. Also to be in the prescence of such greats as Stirling Moss and Jackie Stewart etc. As to the cars, well I have never seen such an array of differences! From coal driven to the F1's.. that is what speed is about...a festival to celebrate the advances in speed.. Spectators are there to see the cars and their heros. Thanks to Steve, Jackie and all the marshals for their warm welcome and fun had. I'll be back!
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 11:30 (Ref:663715)   #38
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 14:16 (Ref:663868)   #39
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welcome goggles.

Lees right about the fat cat showboaters.

where the whacky racers there this year? I mean what is the bloody point of that . . . .I didnt know Hannah Berbera where in the automotive indusrty
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 15:02 (Ref:663919)   #40
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hahahha maybe he thought he was Peter Perfect!!! thanks for cheering me up Zefarelly I was just coming to terms with the fact that I have had to admit defeat and pull out of the Historic Sportscar race supporting the Grand Prix. A race which will be anything but a procession!
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Old 17 Jul 2003, 15:30 (Ref:663949)   #41
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I had "componant failure" in my engine during the gentleman Drivers race at Brands 2 weeks ago and its been a race against the clock to get the engine rebuilt (bent valves etc....) the valves are a special size and the correct ones arrived this morning - so the engine will be ready early next week in time to go down to Charade but Brands and the GP meeting were the 2 I was looking fwd to all season. To say that I am gutted is probably the understatement of the year....high class problem but I am pretty depressed about it!
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commiserations, hopefully the rebuilt engine and its builders will avoid inferior components!

I guess its part of the racing game, gutting!

the british GP and a can of carbonated pond water (fosters) wont help either!
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Forgive me chaps but........

I cant recall that many cars only going up the hill at 20mph..... I was spectating from just in front of Goodwood house (which is where my hubby was on post) and I can only hope that they were actually "going for it" so to speak, cause if they weren't.... *gulp*

I have been a spectator at Shelsley Walsh, Prescott, Loton Park and Curborough for aprox 7 years now and did not feel cheated one little bit in respect to the speed the vehicles were going up the hill.....

I am sure that many of you disagree with me but I cant help but feel that you are all missing the real reason for the festival!!!!

I for one have never stood by a genuine AC Cobra and I would never be able to afford to go the the Grand Prix, so the thrill of the noise of the F1 cars alone made it worth while for me...

The festival has never been advertised as a "racing or competitive" event, just an appreciation of some of the worlds rarest and most beautiful vehicles.....
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Sensible words there.

(Note to self: Never argue with a woman).

If you ever get the chance come to some of the CTCRC events. We don't claim to have too much exotica but we do have racing.
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