Toyota/Save Mart 350 - Infineon Raceway

ThePenguin · 22 Jun 2007, 02:45 (Ref:1943859)

NASCAR heads to Sonoma for the first cup race on a road course. Here is the link to the entry list for the race.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007...ntry_list.html

I think that Montoya will do well in a road course even though they will be racing in the COT.

**chunterer** · 22 Jun 2007, 18:27 (Ref:1944463)

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin

I think that Montoya will do well in a road course even though they will be racing in the COT.

Well i'm sure he'll be banking on that as well as his season appears to have stalled after some decent progress early on?

Knowlesy · 22 Jun 2007, 18:44 (Ref:1944491)

For me you can't look past Hendrick again. Jeff Gordon in the car that is likely to be best prepared for the first CoT road event....I fear they may be unstoppable.

I think the #42 team would just be pleased to have a top ten and a trouble free run after the late barren spell. Things have gotten a whole lot tougher.

Dutton · 22 Jun 2007, 18:48 (Ref:1944496)

Quite understandable, of course. He is not competing from a particularly strong starting point.

Matt · 22 Jun 2007, 19:47 (Ref:1944531)

Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson are not allowed to qualify, and will start 41st and 42nd, due to an illegal modification on the fenders of the CoT's.

gttouring · 22 Jun 2007, 20:01 (Ref:1944540)

Illegal modification?! yeah right- total domination more like it. they are nerfing hendrick racing this way.
They will still pull up pretty well, but what could they have really modified that wasn't caught before, these are the same cars as previous CoT races right? that is the idea of the car isn't it....oh and safety- with burning foam pads and gas intrusion to the cockpit...

Matt · 22 Jun 2007, 20:09 (Ref:1944543)

It's the idea, but, Hendrick has like, 7 different CoT's per driver, so yeah. What they did was, widen out the fenders, to give the front extra downforce, which, you well, can't do.

**FIRE** · 22 Jun 2007, 20:39 (Ref:1944574)

Besides Marc Goossens there's a second European doing this event: Klaus Graf. Currently both are dissapointing 49th and 48th in practice.

**FIRE** · 22 Jun 2007, 20:45 (Ref:1944576)

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Originally Posted by Matt

It's the idea, but, Hendrick has like, 7 different CoT's per driver, so yeah. What they did was, widen out the fenders, to give the front extra downforce, which, you well, can't do.

7 different cars for one driver?!

I thought one of the reasons for switching to the CoT was reducing costs.

During the Speed coverage of Cup practice one of the commentators said half of the field is using cars which raced also at ovals this season. Is this true? Or do they still have short oval CoTs, road course CoTs, etcetera?

Matt · 22 Jun 2007, 20:52 (Ref:1944580)

Hendrick has the money to spend on all the extra cars, I believe they have used a different one for each race. Richard Childress on the other hand, has used the same cars for every single race. While they say it is supposed to cut down costs, that doesn't prevent the big teams from wanting to dominate, and sped a crap load of money.

gttouring · 22 Jun 2007, 22:22 (Ref:1944628)

I think the Cot chassis is limited to a certain dimension of track and wheelbase and offset, so you caan't develop too many different chassis, but Hendrick probably has robots welding all night making chassis' differnt by the Millimeter to get all they can out of the rules.
but one chassis build should work, provided the part and joints don't fatigue they are like front engine Daytone Prototype's almost...

Dutton · 23 Jun 2007, 00:28 (Ref:1944679)

Those two starting at the back...

Something quite convenient about that from the "show" perspective.

**gomick** · 23 Jun 2007, 13:40 (Ref:1944921)

jamie mcmurray got the pole from robby gordon - had forgotten all about robby too

muggle not · 23 Jun 2007, 14:32 (Ref:1944961)

Kudos to Jamie for not only getting the pole but also to giving credit to Boris Said for his qualifying pole run. Boris had done considerable testing for Roush and Jamie's team and had the car setup pretty good. Perhaps JPM should swallow some pride and enlist help from Boris who can contribute to any team and driver's improvement.

Jacko44 · 23 Jun 2007, 14:48 (Ref:1944973)

Disappointin not to see Marcos Ambrose out there.. Cant wait to see him competin with the big boys at watkins glen

StuiE · 23 Jun 2007, 16:47 (Ref:1945025)

Will be interesting to see the 24 and 48 come from the back, won't be as easy as on an oval..

I hope Boris wins it

Knowlesy · 23 Jun 2007, 21:00 (Ref:1945124)

Argh, disaster qualifying lap for Juan Pablo!

The funny thing is, he has gone well in every other session. His quali lap was probably one of the slowest he has turned all weekend.

broadrun96 · 23 Jun 2007, 23:06 (Ref:1945175)

Would like to see JPM do well but thinking he'll be stuck with the wide driving cup guys usually do. Be great to see Boris take another win for the "road-race ringers" and see what new rule nascar will make to make the cars even worse on road courses for road racers.

Matt · 24 Jun 2007, 01:01 (Ref:1945206)

Boris can't count as a ringer anymore, since he races on all the other tracks as well, albeit not a full schedule. If you remember, he got pole for the Pepsi 400 last year.

Matt · 24 Jun 2007, 21:30 (Ref:1945756)

Dunno if anyone was watching, but, Kyle Petty just put out a huge no-no, dropped the F-Bomb on TV. Oh well, it was funny as hell to hear!

**Craig** · 24 Jun 2007, 21:33 (Ref:1945759)

Mildly amusing, no doubt everyone in the US will be getting their knickers in a twist over it though

I like the look of this race - I'd never appreciated road courses for stock cars, but I've changed my mind - I am sooo gonna go over and watch it myself next year

Knowlesy · 24 Jun 2007, 21:39 (Ref:1945763)

Stock cars and road courses is heaven Craig, come on.

Just wait for the Glen. Infineon ain't too bad either.

Good start for Stewart there. ("yeah, I forgot that evidently.")

Hehehe, Kyle got a bit mad.

Matt · 24 Jun 2007, 21:41 (Ref:1945766)

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Originally Posted by Craig

Mildly amusing, no doubt everyone in the US will be getting their knickers in a twist over it though

I like the look of this race - I'd never appreciated road courses for stock cars, but I've changed my mind - I am sooo gonna go over and watch it myself next year

Probably only just over-protective moms and dads, Mostly ALL the people I know however, would find it funny, and realize, that, everyone does it, and, you hear worse in a single rap song.

Knowlesy · 24 Jun 2007, 21:58 (Ref:1945779)

Larry is sounding very rough!

**Craig** · 24 Jun 2007, 22:02 (Ref:1945783)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Probably only just over-protective moms and dads, Mostly ALL the people I know however, would find it funny, and realize, that, everyone does it, and, you hear worse in a single rap song.

Good job they didn't get the feed we did whilst you guys were at commercials... those commentators are funny when they don't realise they're on air

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