FIA GT FIA GT testing- Nogaro

tux · 6 Mar 2007, 23:41 (Ref:1860202)

a few fia gt teams are testing at nogaro times are available here

http://www.fiagt.com/downloads.php

**chunterer** · 7 Mar 2007, 08:55 (Ref:1860405)

Good, thanks for this.

ORECA FFSA Saleen running and reasonably competitive. Sister car to the one running at Ricard?

As I said on that thread ORECA seem the only obvious outfit with the means to enter one in FIA GT as other cars/plans are either up in the air or failed to materialise.

Back to thread though and nice to see 3 Vettes on the timings! BMS Astons pretty consistent.

Why no Lambo's at this test though?

Antho · 7 Mar 2007, 12:15 (Ref:1860530)

there were two cars at HTTT tests. This one (http://www.endurance-info.com/2007_L..._Saleen_04.jpg) is at Nogaro. The other one, is a development car. and I think you couldn't see it before LMS Test Days. (I have some photos but I'm not authorized to publish sorry).

pederb · 8 Mar 2007, 17:14 (Ref:1861608)

What do we know about the EDD Mustang in GT4?

pederb · 9 Mar 2007, 19:00 (Ref:1862538)

In this picture the GT4 Mustang looks like a FR500C the Grand Am version

mirkob · 9 Mar 2007, 19:13 (Ref:1862551)

project-lemans.de call it "FORD FR500 GT" and endurance-info says the Nissan 350 Z EVO come directly from Grand AM

The359 · 9 Mar 2007, 19:35 (Ref:1862565)

Yes, they're both Grand-Am models apparently. The Mustang has Blackforest's paintscheme.

pederb · 9 Mar 2007, 19:42 (Ref:1862570)

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Originally Posted by mirkob

project-lemans.de call it "FORD FR500 GT" and endurance-info says the Nissan 350 Z EVO come directly from Grand AM

The FR500GT is the GT3 model and the GT4 is the FR500C

pederb · 9 Mar 2007, 19:43 (Ref:1862572)

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Originally Posted by The359

Yes, they're both Grand-Am models apparently. The Mustang has Blackforest's paintscheme.

Both the 350Z & FR500C?

The359 · 9 Mar 2007, 19:55 (Ref:1862580)

Yes, I've seen that 350Z race various times in Grand Am Koni Cup. I don't recall the team though.

pederb · 9 Mar 2007, 20:04 (Ref:1862596)

Where can I find out more about GT4?

Christopher · 10 Mar 2007, 02:46 (Ref:1862791)

I've been looking around the web for anything GT4 myself, not finding a lot. Could be old news but did find today something about G&A Racing testing a BMW Z4 for GT4. I was surprised to learn about the Audi TT joining, thought a R8 might be good in GT4 as it has similar power and weight as the Aston Martin Vantage.

The359 · 10 Mar 2007, 03:56 (Ref:1862803)

R8 is probably better suited for GT3, since it shares a lot with the Gallardo (which is already in GT3)

Christopher · 10 Mar 2007, 05:08 (Ref:1862816)

That's true, the R8 even with a V8 against the Gallardo's V10 probably wouldn't be that much slower.
I assume the TT will be the V6 model, be interesting to see how it compares to the other GT4 cars.

Graham Goodwin · 10 Mar 2007, 09:12 (Ref:1862869)

The GT4 BMW Z4 has been testing at Zolder

SALEEN S7R · 10 Mar 2007, 10:50 (Ref:1862927)

I just hope that the GT4 cars can go faster than what the Aston Martin Vantage set at Monza a couple of weeks ago, a 2:06.834 isnt a terribly quick time. Hopefully by the time the season starts though they will be lapping at around 1:57 or 1:58. The top GT3 cars did a lap of 1:55.895 by way of a comparissan. Anyone got any idea how much power these cars have? Im guessing around 350-375bhp?

911 GT1 · 10 Mar 2007, 11:30 (Ref:1862950)

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Originally Posted by pederb

The FR500GT is the GT3 model and the GT4 is the FR500C

FR500 GT was the official usesd name by the SRO for the GT4 car. The FR500C is the Grand Am model. We have to find out if the GT4 and Grand Am model maybe is identical.

Christopher · 10 Mar 2007, 13:50 (Ref:1863041)

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Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

Anyone got any idea how much power these cars have? Im guessing around 350-375bhp?

The Aston would have around 400bhp the Mustang about 420. Not sure how the TT will go with only 350bhp.

SALEEN S7R · 10 Mar 2007, 13:58 (Ref:1863047)

420? I think thats a bit optimistic when you consider cars like the Porsche 911 GT3 cup only produces around 405bhp. To think that a GT4 car would produce more I think isnt realistic unfortunately.

Christopher · 10 Mar 2007, 14:36 (Ref:1863063)

Well the Grand Am Mustang FR500C has 420hp, that's what I was going by, the GT4 version could have less.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/racer.asp

JAG · 10 Mar 2007, 15:22 (Ref:1863087)

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Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

420? I think thats a bit optimistic when you consider cars like the Porsche 911 GT3 cup only produces around 405bhp. To think that a GT4 car would produce more I think isnt realistic unfortunately.

The 911's a lightweight special though, very different cars are balanced, some are powerful, some light.

Anyone think GT3 will eventually replace GT2, with current GT2's replacing GT1?

Looking at the pictures on DSC, the 430 GT3 looks very advanced aerowise, these cars appear to be in the spirit of what GT2 was originally meant to be.

TheNewBob · 10 Mar 2007, 18:25 (Ref:1863215)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Anyone think GT3 will eventually replace GT2, with current GT2's replacing GT1?

With the size of this year's FIA GT1 grid, as well as the LMS and Le Mans itself, and at least one new car on the horizon in the form of the Koeniggsegg, I don't think we have to worry about that just yet...

JAG · 10 Mar 2007, 21:02 (Ref:1863313)

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Originally Posted by TheNewBob

With the size of this year's FIA GT1 grid, as well as the LMS and Le Mans itself, and at least one new car on the horizon in the form of the Koeniggsegg, I don't think we have to worry about that just yet...

Disagree.

GM must be looking enviously at the greater, more relevant (to the Corvette brand) competition in GT2, while the Astons are a Prodrive funded customer effort, not dissimilar to Lola or Zytek.

When we're relying on Saleen and Konigsegg (can never spell that) to boost GT1 grids, maybe it's time to embrace factory backed GT2 Porsche's, Ferrari's etc.

You only need to give them a 5% power boost, plus a few kilos lighter, and they'd be on the pace, or near enough, of the GT1 machines.

Allow GT3 cars a few more specialised components (and a fixed set of regs), to fill the GT2 void, with GT4 taking up the slack for teams who cannot afford the step up in competitin and finances.

I'll put money on the GT scene following this route, lol

And before anyone starts moaning, there's no need for the cars to be noticably slower, much of the GT1 cars sophistication is strangled by smaller restrictors and increased weight.

A lightweight, slightly more powerful 'GT2' 911 RSR would be spectacular.

Christopher · 11 Mar 2007, 09:43 (Ref:1863526)

Any reason the GT2 Porsches aren't based on the turbo or the road GT2?

MikeH · 11 Mar 2007, 12:21 (Ref:1863587)

Any ideas what size of grid we're looking at for GT4? The GT3 one looks enormous!

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