Trulli's Spin

[Mania]

What was that all about ? He thinks it was oil but thats gotta be a sloppy mistake by Trulli - especially when he had a great opportunity.

Hope he doesent have more of those - or else people may start questioning his ability to handle preassure..

[Glen]

That sounds like Ferrari's "Driver Error" excuse for the testing crashes - don't want to admit to a technical difficulty. Actually... didn't Schumacher lose his car on the way out of the corner in his testing crash? Something funky going on with the electronic diff...? Looked transmission related to me.

[Mr Hahn]

It can't be driver error when he spun under acceleration. He was accelerating hard out of the corner, and was probably up to about 4th gear, when suddenly the wheels started spinning and the car spat him into the wall!

Looked like failure of traction control to me.

[marcus]

yeah i think the traction control stopped working momentarilly I remember it happening to Frentzen in the Jordan a while back , would have a heck of a scare thats for sure , but to me (and im in no way a technical boffin) like his TC stopped working and he was away

[Jay]

It happened to Rubens Barichello coming out of the Casino Hairpin in Montreal last year too....

[marcus]

yep thats right it did too , to have the TC all of a sudden fail would be a heck of a scare especially if you have no warning , not something I would like to be faced with

[EERO]

Trulli has said he thinks it was oil.

I found Schumacher's comments about Trulli a bit unsporting in the Post Race Press Conference, but strangely on three different websites, (including the FIA site) those comments about Trulli which I wished to quote, have been excised from the transcript. So much for the official version of History.

[marcus]

LOL , yeah I didnt think Trulli was blocking him that much , and heck thats what he is meant to do isnt it ?????

[mjstallard]

I thought the same EERO. Something about him being fair but inappropriate? How so? Oh well, didn't know Trulli had it in him to fluster Schumi like that by holding him off so well

[R]

Those comments by TGF were ridiculous. Edited them out of the official transcripts, have they? Well, we know what we heard...

As for Trulli's spin, I too thought it was TC related - surprised to see really that Trulli thinks it was oil. Regardless of what it was, it never looked like driver error, but perhaps it is like Glen says - Renault don't want to admit to a technical difficulty?

[ljakse]

About Trulli's spin - if Trulli says it's oil, maybe it is, or he was maybe politely asked by his team bosses to say so. Doesn't really metter as long as they don't ask him to say it was his mistake.


About TGF's comments - since I live where I live, I didn't get a chance to see press conference, so please if someone could tell me what was it that TGF said. Please?

[f1manoz]

It couldn't have possibly been Trulli's fault. Look where he spun, very bizarre..... I go along with most diagnoses here that it was certainly an electronic glitch, most likely the traction control.

And TGF's comments after the race were completely unfair. Not everyone moves out of your way! Some are actually there to race

(Let's just say Trulli didn't weave around like a certain team-mate!)

[Morris 1100]

Oh yeah Trulli has to move for Michael and Brenoldi dosen't have to move for Coulthard at Monaco!

[drexel]

All Michael was saying is that Trulli was racing hard, and next time Michael sees him on track, he will return the favour with interest.

[R]

That was not all he said. He said that although it was "fair", Trulli was "closing the door on all occasions" and that his behaviour was "not really appropriate". Of course these are not the exact quotes, but you get the drift. The point he was trying to make was that since Trulli's car was so much slower than his, it would have been "appropriate" of him to give way. He said the battle with JPM was much better because the cars were more equal.

Newsflash for you, TGF: There are 16 other drivers out there who are also there to race, not just those who drive for Ferrari, Williams or McLaren.

[Liz]

I thought his comments were basically "Trulli obviously had a slower car and he should have moved over and let me by." Basically what JPM calls "I Am Michael Let Me By."

Anyway it's all history now and anyone who taped the race knows what he said, even if Big Brother says he didn't.

[enemy-ace]

This is what he said
"Jarno was not letting me have any room at all out there," Michael Schumacher said. "It was fair, but I don’t know if it was appropriate at that time because he definitely had a slower car."

I don't personnally understand his line of thinking on this one. From what I saw, Trulli did nothing wrong. On one particular occasion when Jarno slammed the door shut, I think Schumacher hesitated a liitle which allowed said slamming. If anything Michael should have went deeper into the corner, it would have slowed them both down but the pass would have been made. But then hindsight is 20/20.
I was just so darn tickled pink to see some on-track action, I can't wait for Malaysia.

[Glen]

The real scandal is that those remarks don't feature in any of the press conference transcripts. Not anymore anyway. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but that stinks.

[Bononi]

Oh, TGF certainly has a good PM to "erase" this kind of s***.

[enemy-ace]

Actually the transcript has been not been deleted, but it has been transcribed incorrectly. Go to the FIA site and read the press release again. The comments that Michael made, read as if he is talking about Montoya.
I think it is just human error, not conspiracy theory.

[Speed]

"but I don’t know if it was appropriate at that time because he definitely had a slower car."

Michael..., you don't know if that was appropriate or not ?!?!?!?!?!?!?, how many years do you have in this business my friend ?!?!?, Bullshhhh...

Neither Trulli or Montoya should take their cars away !. Guys (Jarno/Juan Pablo), defend your position is appropriate !, do not use Austria-2001-Kimi's attitude, never !!!

[MichaelC]

Meanwhile, back at the original question...

These guys are in F1 because they are the best drivers in the world, allegedly. Surely they shouldn't need electrical aids to stop them spinning rounds in circles??

[drexel]

Well if you take the Montoya example...JPM was losing time defending his position the whole time...and basically was very lucky that Kimi didn't pass him in the pits (something kimi couldn't have done without Juan losing time)..

So you can say that fighting to hold position CAN sometimes actually be the wrong thing to do...The same can be said of Trulli who might of had a better chance to beat Montoya with clean air had he not spun...Of course i'd still rather see them fighting for it.

Anyway...Michael said it was fair overall so what's the big deal???

[Splatz the Cow]

Anyway, Trudi's Renault was pulling away from Schu down the straights - it was quite funny. Must have been a bit of a shock.



GO WEBBER YEH!

[Mania]

I think Schumacher was peeved that Trulli closed the door hard on 2 occasions when Schumacher was alongside - if he didnt get out of it he would have lost his nose and I think thats what he was saying - ie Trulli didnt leave amny space and left it to Schumacher to avoid the accident.

Personally, I think Trulli was right. He's racing for position and he had a lot to prove to people who were questioning his ability as a racer. 'Course that spin didnt help. And I agree with what someone said earlier - a good driver should be able to recover a spin without TC - unless ofcourse the official release is false and he had some other problems. Funy too how no one else spun at the same corner - maybe Trulli just lost it on his own..?