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Silverstone Classic
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28 Jul 2017 to 30 Jul 2017 08:00 to 18:00
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The Biggest Classic Festival in the UK. Among many grids it will include a round of the Jaguar Challenge AND a race for HRDC Academy cars.

HMRN have also confirmed the 'RAC TT' race for Pre 63GT cars and U2TC will each have 50 minute races.
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Old 1 Aug 2017, 08:16 (Ref:3756618)   #166
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Those are good news.
Thanks for sharing nice pics, percy and retrognome.
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Old 1 Aug 2017, 08:33 (Ref:3756621)   #167
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Allow me to kill two birds with one stone as it were. Dad is fine Iain - lost a wheel due to mechanical failure somewhere within the rear upright/halfshaft when he was halfway through Stowe and the car tucked in around the failed corner and rolled onto its roof. Thank you to everyone for their concern The car can be repaired, and with the exception of a minute cut on his finger dad was uninjured.

AFAIK Stuart Baird was OK after his roll in HFF - the roll hoop did its job well but took quite a beating in the process.
Thanks for that, Sam. Didn't realise it was your Dad's E Type. From the position of the car- inside the corner- thought it had to be a failure. Mr Pearson should at least buy your Dad a drink, as without the resultant red flag he likely wouldn't have won the race.....

BTW, well done in your Titan in the FF races. Far from shabby results in that field!
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Old 1 Aug 2017, 09:03 (Ref:3756628)   #168
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Crikkeee had no idea it was Bob . Please send my very best . As I said my heart sank when passing the incedent . Thanks for letting us know .
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Allow me to kill two birds with one stone as it were. Dad is fine Iain - lost a wheel due to mechanical failure somewhere within the rear upright/halfshaft when he was halfway through Stowe and the car tucked in around the failed corner and rolled onto its roof. Thank you to everyone for their concern The car can be repaired, and with the exception of a minute cut on his finger dad was uninjured.

AFAIK Stuart Baird was OK after his roll in HFF - the roll hoop did its job well but took quite a beating in the process.
Sorry to hear it was Stuart who rolled his Merlyn but glad to learn he is OK. A real veteran of FF1600 who retains his enthusiasm

PS Regarding my earlier comment regarding Lightweight E Types, Simon Hadfield has reminded me that Joaguin Folch's semi-lightweight is the genuine ex-Peter Berry car which was raced by Bruce McLaren in period

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I have Stuart Baird's car in our workshop after his heavy roll at the Classic last weekend. As Sam said the roll bar took a real beating but did its job and as a result Stuart emerged with nothing but a stiff neck and a bit of a shaking.
It was suggested that Stuart had been very lucky but in my opinion luck had nothing to do with it. Stuart had the foresight to see that his head was level with the top of the roll bar and asked Mike Waite (MW Fabrications) to extend it, Mike did just that and also braced not only the extension but also the original hoop and gusseted them both.
Stuart's foresight and Mike's quality fabrication saved Stuart's life, its as simple as that. We watched the incident live on the big screen and the severity of the roll shocked all who were there. The consequences of not having enough clearance between the drivers head and the roll hoop don't bear thinking about. This issue of roll bars and extensions is being checked and addressed immediately with the Chief Formula Ford Scrutineer from the MSA and recommendations will be made to all competitors in Historic FF1600, I would recommend that other championships do the same.
We can straighten the cars but not the people all of whom are our friends, prevention is always better than the cure.
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I have Stuart Baird's car in our workshop after his heavy roll at the Classic last weekend. As Sam said the roll bar took a real beating but did its job and as a result Stuart emerged with nothing but a stiff neck and a bit of a shaking.
It was suggested that Stuart had been very lucky but in my opinion luck had nothing to do with it. Stuart had the foresight to see that his head was level with the top of the roll bar and asked Mike Waite (MW Fabrications) to extend it, Mike did just that and also braced not only the extension but also the original hoop and gusseted them both.
Stuart's foresight and Mike's quality fabrication saved Stuart's life, its as simple as that. We watched the incident live on the big screen and the severity of the roll shocked all who were there. The consequences of not having enough clearance between the drivers head and the roll hoop don't bear thinking about. This issue of roll bars and extensions is being checked and addressed immediately with the Chief Formula Ford Scrutineer from the MSA and recommendations will be made to all competitors in Historic FF1600, I would recommend that other championships do the same.
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Good post thank you.
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Well my intended Superbee transportation didn't transpire as we (the owner and I) both expected bad weather. As it turns out we were wrong on that point but just as well we left it at home as foolishly we followed the official signs off the A43 which took us into Silverstone village and into a 1hr queue to get to the entrance

Had a decent time looking round the paddocks, managed to have a quick chat with Delta but couldn't find Mike. Nice to see Rudi Eggenberger getting stuck into working on the Sierra from New Zealand. Loved the JPS BMW but didn't realise till later that Jim Richards was driving it. Damn.

Didn't see any racing and left quite early as my 'driver' needed an early night but its relighted my racing candle......busy winter ahead
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Thanks for that, Sam. Didn't realise it was your Dad's E Type. From the position of the car- inside the corner- thought it had to be a failure. Mr Pearson should at least buy your Dad a drink, as without the resultant red flag he likely wouldn't have won the race.....

BTW, well done in your Titan in the FF races. Far from shabby results in that field!
He can buy us a bonnet if he likes

Thank you though I can't claim any credit for the Titan as I was renting Mk8 Motorsport's Elden Mk10 for the meeting - Titan still in pieces since Cadwell last year sadly.
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Thank you though I can't claim any credit for the Titan as I was renting Mk8 Motorsport's Elden Mk10 for the meeting - Titan still in pieces since Cadwell last year sadly.
Well, whatever you were driving- well done!
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Not enough young people
Define "young"? I'm guessing that's people in their 30s?

The cost issue can't be denied but I would argue that most people in to historic racing want to race the cars that they watched when they were kids. Hmmm, I spot one problem - apart from BTCC and F1 there isn't really much of an audience for many series so where does the interest stem from (and they are both joke series in my opinion).

The next issue is that the 30 somethings probably lusted after cars that were current when they were 15; Clios, Focus, Porsche Boxsters etc. Many wouldn't know what a Capri was if it ran over them, and yet those cars are not catered for in historic racing yet, indeed they are still current in club racing. The one series from that era that is relevant and " current historic" is the Super Tourer series and that seems popular.

As Peter says, we need to get people involved in club racing and I think historic racing will survive as the next step, but will always be a slightly older audience.

We need to persuade people that club racing can be done more cheaply than imagined. Not cheap but more cheaply. There are start up cost of suits and ards but I still have my suit that i bought 16 years ago so the costs can be amortised. The growth in 2 driver 40/45 minute races also makes racing more accessible as costs can be shared, and we need to help people realise that you don't need to spend really big money to go racing, it can be done in a 2 Grand Fiat Uno, or a 4 Grand MX5 mk1 and be enjoyed just as much. There are plenty of series where those cars will do ok in their class (and by some standards they are historic anyway, certainly "classics"!)
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I was trying to avoid the "barriers to entry" conversation. Also the "I can still fit in my race gear after 16 years" conversation - how's a boy to make an honest shekel :ROFL:

I did extensive research on driver ages and demographics. Drivers race up to their early 20s and then they go away through their 30s until mid 40s. That makes sense if we think about our own lives - remember I'm talking about "averages" not dyed-in-the-wool racers. We (the latter) will do anything to race, but it's the mainstream that the sport needs to attract to grow.

I had a cluster of customers in the Worcestershire area, and used ACORN demographics to scale that up to find the likely residential neighbourhoods to target - yup it all matched with existing customers. So in the realm of your "average" hobby driver, I can safely say that "young" is 40, those in their 20s will not be racing cars that we define as "classic".

So don't worry about the 30 year olds - they're not racing anything let alone historics.

I cannot stress enough that I'm talking averages, I'm sure there are many, many exceptions. But for marketing purposes these are the people I target as they make up the bulk of customers.



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Back to the Classic.... First showing of highlights should be on ITV4 Thursday 10th Aug, 2000hrs.
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Mike on Utub' Silverstone Pitlane Action I think its your car at min 2'. I checked a little more than 62 " for your stop. Who throws his gloves on the ground?
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