BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 32

porsche962fan · 23 Oct 2019, 18:52 (Ref:3936441)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Honda are right to keep the same lineup. Is Plato definite for PMR? s

watch his race 3 interview with Louis, he even talked about the possibility doing their own engines

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ???????

Toyota Avensis - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Infiniti - Laser Tools - Aidan Moffat
Infiniti - Laser Tools - ?????

BMW - WSR - Colin Turkington ???
BMW - WSR - ????????
BMW - WSR - ??????

crmalcolm · 23 Oct 2019, 19:38 (Ref:3936445)

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Neal	Confirmed as driver pairing in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	Oliphant	Reported as continuing next year with the team
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	Plato	Talked about engine / chassis developments for 2020 in interview
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	Ingram	Confirmed Ginsters backing for 2020 in article
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	selling Merc+TBL

Likely Entries
HMS Racing	Alfa Giulietta	Austin	Hold TBL - have been testing
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Smiley?	New cars for 2019
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	???	New cars for 2019
HARD	VW CC	Thompson	Claims to have exciting 2020 news on social media soon
HARD	VW CC	Coates	Gilham #tagging?

Possible Entries
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class	Morgan	???
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class	???	???
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic	Simpson	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	TBL on loan for 2019
???	MB A-Class	???	TBL+Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Sutton tested car (BMR leaving?)
WSR	BMW 330i	Jordan	Lost Pirtek sponsorship, says he wants to stay in the BTCC, but only with WSR

Entries with doubt
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return
???	???	M.Jackson	Linked to half of the teams on the grid
???	???	Blundell	Stated that he is undecided about a 2020 return
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry

crmalcolm · 23 Oct 2019, 19:41 (Ref:3936448)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

watch his race 3 interview with Louis,

Theroux or Walsh?

crmalcolm · 23 Oct 2019, 19:43 (Ref:3936449)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Is Plato definite for PMR?

https://www.crash.net/btcc/news/9313...velopment-2020

porsche962fan · 23 Oct 2019, 20:03 (Ref:3936457)

where is the Oliphant confirmed at WSR coming from ?

crmalcolm · 23 Oct 2019, 20:28 (Ref:3936459)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

where is the Oliphant confirmed at WSR coming from ?

8 pages ago....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

http://bit.ly/35Bpzi1

Seems to comfirm Oliphant back at WSR.

Craner Curves · 23 Oct 2019, 21:04 (Ref:3936467)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Walsh?

"You remind me of a young Robb Gravett"

porsche962fan · 23 Oct 2019, 21:31 (Ref:3936472)

if he returns could TOCA grant him a dispensation to use Yokohama tires ?

Pickles · 24 Oct 2019, 20:14 (Ref:3936618)

Looks like Rowbottom is intending to continue with Ciceley next year:

https://www.facebook.com/14579566292...bstory_index=0

crmalcolm · 24 Oct 2019, 22:23 (Ref:3936635)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickles

Looks like Rowbottom is intending to continue with Ciceley next year:

https://www.facebook.com/14579566292...bstory_index=0

Table will updated Monday.

porsche962fan · 25 Oct 2019, 15:05 (Ref:3936724)

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ???????

Toyota Avensis - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Infiniti - Laser Tools - Aidan Moffat
Infiniti - Laser Tools - ?????

BMW - WSR - Colin Turkington ???
BMW - WSR - ????????
BMW - WSR - Tom Oliphant ?

Mercedes - Ciceleye - Dan Rowbotton ?
Mercedes - Ciceleye - Adam Morgan ?

crmalcolm · 25 Oct 2019, 15:22 (Ref:3936726)

I guess the wait for Monday's update was too much to bear?

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Neal	Confirmed as driver pairing in press release
WSR	BMW 330i	Oliphant	Reported as continuing next year with the team
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	Plato	Talked about engine / chassis developments for 2020 in interview
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	Ingram	Confirmed Ginsters backing for 2020 in article
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	selling Merc+TBL
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Rowbottom	Confirmed entry in Facebook post
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class ?	Morgan	Brands Hatch summary confirms 2020 return

Likely Entries
HMS Racing	Alfa Giulietta	Austin	Hold TBL - have been testing
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
Power Maxed	Vauxhall ?	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Smiley?	New cars for 2019
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	???	New cars for 2019
HARD	VW CC	Thompson	Claims to have exciting 2020 news on social media soon
HARD	VW CC	Coates	Gilham #tagging?

Possible Entries
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
BMR	???	???	State they are committed to BTCC future
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic	Simpson	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	TBL on loan for 2019
???	MB A-Class	???	TBL+Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Sutton tested car (BMR leaving?)
WSR	BMW 330i	Jordan	Lost Pirtek sponsorship, says he wants to stay in the BTCC, but only with WSR

Entries with doubt
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return
???	???	M.Jackson	Linked to half of the teams on the grid
???	???	Blundell	Stated that he is undecided about a 2020 return
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry
???	Subaru Levorg	???	Car not viable as NGTC entry

https://www.facebook.com/16557852347...171404?sfns=mo

Evantra · 25 Oct 2019, 15:59 (Ref:3936736)

Please can we just stick with one list?

Also, I wouldn't say that 100% confirms Rowbottom, but it does look like a return with Ciceley is likely, which I really didn't think would be the case given how he kept saying he was having an awful season. Just hope there's a bit more colour on the car next year using the greens and blues of Cataclean.

Racing Harz · 25 Oct 2019, 16:17 (Ref:3936738)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Please can we just stick with one list?

I prefer the List from crmalcom

jsmee · 25 Oct 2019, 16:44 (Ref:3936743)

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Originally Posted by Racing Harz

I prefer the List from crmalcom

Me too.

Porschefan, your list doesnt work on the Tapatalk app at all

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

crmalcolm · 25 Oct 2019, 16:44 (Ref:3936744)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

Also, I wouldn't say that 100% confirms Rowbottom, but it does look like a return with Ciceley is likely,

The boss of Ciceley said the team will be back with the same drivers, and Rowbottom's social media talks about getting to the gym ready for 2020, alongside hashtags for Ciceley, BTCC and Cataclean.

I'm not sure if there will be a further press release.

Evantra · 25 Oct 2019, 17:05 (Ref:3936747)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The boss of Ciceley said the team will be back with the same drivers, and Rowbottom's social media talks about getting to the gym ready for 2020, alongside hashtags for Ciceley, BTCC and Cataclean.

I'm not sure if there will be a further press release.

Fair enough then!

porsche962fan · 25 Oct 2019, 18:06 (Ref:3936755)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

Please can we just stick with one list?

no

Craner Curves · 25 Oct 2019, 18:32 (Ref:3936761)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

Please can we just stick with one list?

Also, I wouldn't say that 100% confirms Rowbottom, but it does look like a return with Ciceley is likely, which I really didn't think would be the case given how he kept saying he was having an awful season. Just hope there's a bit more colour on the car next year using the greens and blues of Cataclean.

You should have a word with the livery designer then.😉

Pickles · 25 Oct 2019, 18:44 (Ref:3936763)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

Also, I wouldn't say that 100% confirms Rowbottom, but it does look like a return with Ciceley is likely, which I really didn't think would be the case given how he kept saying he was having an awful season.

Hence why I chose my words carefully and said it looks like he's intending to return...

If Ciceley are retaining both drivers, I'm going to stick my neck out and say a new car is on the way.

porsche962fan · 25 Oct 2019, 18:56 (Ref:3936765)

anybody interested in the FK2 from BTC Racing ?

assuming everyone remains on Civic from last year we would have 2 Dynamic + 2 BTC racing + 2 AMD + Simposon + 2 FK2 ex BTC = 9 , this would be nearly 1/3 of the grid

crmalcolm · 25 Oct 2019, 19:10 (Ref:3936767)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickles

Hence why I chose my words carefully and said it looks like he's intending to return...

If Ciceley are retaining both drivers, I'm going to stick my neck out and say a new car is on the way.

That would not be a surprise. Rowbottom is bringing a good deal of funding, but is not entirely happy with the car. It was even described in an end of season post as being a 'devil'.

The Ciceley and Rowbottom's own posts have referred to drivers, sponsors and BTCC. Even kwik fit have got a mention from them - but not a single word about the car. I would be surprised to see them go down the Civic route. C-Class would seem the obvious choice.

Evantra · 25 Oct 2019, 19:17 (Ref:3936768)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

That would not be a surprise. Rowbottom is bringing a good deal of funding, but is not entirely happy with the car. It was even described in an end of season post as being a 'devil'.

The Ciceley and Rowbottom's own posts have referred to drivers, sponsors and BTCC. Even kwik fit have got a mention from them - but not a single word about the car. I would be surprised to see them go down the Civic route. C-Class would seem the obvious choice.

Obviously not impossible, but given that Ciceley Commercials are a Mercedes van / truck dealership I would be surprised to see them step away from Mercedes (though yes, they ran an Avensis)

The A-Class has been facelifted this year so I think it's more likely we'll see a 'reworked' car rather than a new one, though the A Class sedan / saloon could be an option given the success of the similarly shaped (saloon) 3 series?

Pickles · 25 Oct 2019, 19:20 (Ref:3936769)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The Ciceley and Rowbottom's own posts have referred to drivers, sponsors and BTCC. Even kwik fit have got a mention from them - but not a single word about the car. I would be surprised to see them go down the Civic route. C-Class would seem the obvious choice.

That would make sense given Ciceley's links to Mercedes, I can't see them going down the Civic route or in fact anyone else's cast offs. Is the CLA a possibility?

Alfisti · 25 Oct 2019, 19:46 (Ref:3936773)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

That would not be a surprise. Rowbottom is bringing a good deal of funding, but is not entirely happy with the car. It was even described in an end of season post as being a 'devil'.

The Ciceley and Rowbottom's own posts have referred to drivers, sponsors and BTCC. Even kwik fit have got a mention from them - but not a single word about the car. I would be surprised to see them go down the Civic route. C-Class would seem the obvious choice.

New A Class would be the obvious choice, assuming nimble FWD is the plan.

The C Class road car is an overweight barge. Yes, it's RWD. I get sick of people banging on about RWD advantage. Having a good RWD roadcar prepped by a quality outfit like WSR is an advantage. But describing it as WSR advantage would be more accurate.

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