LM24 Red Bull Le Mans Story

LC2guy · 18 Feb 2015, 09:18 (Ref:3506092)

Just saw this, would it ever happen ??

http://www.motorsport.com/lemans/new...on-their-radar

isynge · 18 Feb 2015, 09:33 (Ref:3506097)

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Originally Posted by LC2guy

Just saw this, would it ever happen ??

http://www.motorsport.com/lemans/new...on-their-radar

Nothing's impossible and I've long thought that endurance racing was an ideal fit with a lot of Red Bull's brand values.

I was also struck by the slightly low key (but very impressive and nicely put together) video that Red Bull recently released of Daniel Ricciardo driving a period Alfa Romeo sportscar around the Targa Florio track. Maybe sportscars are starting to percolate into the wider Red Bull consciousness a little bit more?

wolfhound · 18 Feb 2015, 09:46 (Ref:3506101)

I would not rule it out there are also a number of other parts to it as Renault, Infinity and Nissan are all part of the one and there are currently 2 possible power units available in the group to power such a car (although both are not fully developed). If Renault was to get p....d off with F1 and turn to the WEC then anything is possible.

I would say that article is pure speculation though and has no real substance to it. It looks like a case of 2+2=5. Don't forgetall that stuff about Audi going to F1 not going to happen.

GT6 · 18 Feb 2015, 10:03 (Ref:3506109)

A very interesting article but really just speculation not sure that red bull has the funds to do this unless they cut back elsewhere.

CTD · 18 Feb 2015, 12:06 (Ref:3506153)

I don't see Renault involved in the WEC, more than they already are with Nissan and Alpine.

**bella** · 18 Feb 2015, 12:12 (Ref:3506156)

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Originally Posted by GT6

A very interesting article but really just speculation not sure that red bull has the funds to do this unless they cut back elsewhere.

they've got absolute fecktons of money. iirc the f1 team is still run purely with the pocket money mateschitz (sp, apologies) has for tinkering with stuff. if they fancied it they could easily have a go.

**Aysedasi** · 18 Feb 2015, 17:40 (Ref:3506228)

Nice Lola.....

It would be good to see complete defection, as far as I'm concerned, but I agree with bella - they could easily do it if they wanted to.

GT6 · 18 Feb 2015, 17:50 (Ref:3506236)

i do not think red bull is as big as some people think, they are basically a one product company

Hawkwood · 18 Feb 2015, 18:12 (Ref:3506245)

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Originally Posted by GT6

i do not think red bull is as big as some people think, they are basically a one product company

Yeah but that one product sells in mind-boggling quantities.
Dietrich Mateschitz could fund a full "factory" Red Bull WEC campaign from his wallet, the guy is worth over $10billion.
And Red Bull's revenue was over $5billion last year.

Just like in F1, they'd be massive players if they had the inclination to be.

whitemr2 · 18 Feb 2015, 18:40 (Ref:3506255)

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Originally Posted by bella

they've got absolute fecktons of money. iirc the f1 team is still run purely with the pocket money mateschitz (sp, apologies) has for tinkering with stuff. if they fancied it they could easily have a go.

I agree, if they want to they can. Money is no issue and boy can they build cars. Do you remember project X2010.

**Adam43** · 18 Feb 2015, 18:52 (Ref:3506262)

They'll have to go there when F1 is dead. Then we shall have won.

Serious point. I hadn't realised there was no longer an issue with advertising Red Bull in France.

**bella** · 18 Feb 2015, 18:57 (Ref:3506265)

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Originally Posted by Hawkwood

Yeah but that one product sells in mind-boggling quantities.

and at mindboggling prices too - as an example at the moment in tescos you can get 24 cans of coke for £7. 8 cans of red bull will set you back £8.

it's about 30-40% more expensive in france (i think). so the guy's raking it in.

GT6 · 18 Feb 2015, 19:02 (Ref:3506268)

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Originally Posted by Hawkwood

Yeah but that one product sells in mind-boggling quantities.
Dietrich Mateschitz could fund a full "factory" Red Bull WEC campaign from his wallet, the guy is worth over $10billion.
And Red Bull's revenue was over $5billion last year.

Just like in F1, they'd be massive players if they had the inclination to be.

It is amazing how some people see things, yes Red Bull sold just over 5 billion cans of drink last year, but that is not capable of generating 5 billion of profit, no where near it in fact, yes they do spend a large amount of money on sponsorship of cars etc but they do not have bottomless pockets and idea that they can just spend a couple of hundred million and not notice is foolish.

Hawkwood · 18 Feb 2015, 22:46 (Ref:3506352)

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Originally Posted by GT6

It is amazing how some people see things, yes Red Bull sold just over 5 billion cans of drink last year, but that is not capable of generating 5 billion of profit, no where near it in fact, yes they do spend a large amount of money on sponsorship of cars etc but they do not have bottomless pockets and idea that they can just spend a couple of hundred million and not notice is foolish.

Yeah, it is amazing how some people see things, like where it was said Red Bull generate 5 billion profit...

Profit and revenue are very different things.
But, Red Bull's revenues have lead to nice fat profits, which had lead to Mateschitz's personal fortune.
Which, as has been pointed out by more than one person, is more than enough to run a factory WEC/Le Mans program.

So yes, in fact, Mateschitz could spend one or two hundred million and not really notice.

YorkshireLad · 19 Feb 2015, 09:53 (Ref:3506576)

In theory you could do it very cheap if you wanted.

Spend £40 on a membership at Perrinn.
Borrow his design, build the car, obvious the moldings etc would cost more for the first car... Couple of quid on a good engine, team and admin fees.
How much is it to run at lemans? £250k ?

GT6 · 19 Feb 2015, 09:59 (Ref:3506578)

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Originally Posted by YorkshireLad

In theory you could do it very cheap if you wanted.

Spend £40 on a membership at Perrinn.
Borrow his design, build the car, obvious the moldings etc would cost more for the first car... Couple of quid on a good engine, team and admin fees.
How much is it to run at lemans? £250k ?

i love that, but perhaps the cateering bill for the top teams might just use that up

CTD · 19 Feb 2015, 10:02 (Ref:3506581)

And something tells me, that is not the way that Red Bull want to go.
If they do it, they do it to win it, and Perrinn's design just isn't that yet.

YorkshireLad · 19 Feb 2015, 11:26 (Ref:3506606)

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Originally Posted by CTD

And something tells me, that is not the way that Red Bull want to go.
If they do it, they do it to win it, and Perrinn's design just isn't that yet.

I wasn't been serious haha! Just thinking of a cheap way, plus I think newey would want to build his own masterpiece.

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