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Old 8 Apr 2018, 04:58 (Ref:3813865)   #46
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Brights technical knowledge might help though, he seems to have the KBR car going OK in Super 2 this weekend. Not sure he would be faster than Super Richie though!
Hard to overcome the bad juju of the 4th car in their stable, the Tickford Turd...
It has been there thru Super Black, through Team 18, and Britek, and now the love childís car...

Something has to change.. surely..
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 05:52 (Ref:3813874)   #47
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Crash damage aside, the thing isn't even that quick in general.

It seems to be a common trend that no 3-4 car team can consistantly field a full complement of competitive cars.

Not even Triple Eight can manage it on a regular basis.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 05:53 (Ref:3813875)   #48
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Wow, Jack le Brocq has really hit the ground running. Who knew it would only take 2 1/2 rounds to be mixing it with the big boys of the series, especially while having to develop a new car. Amazing.
I did hear svg mention that Jack was running the same set as 888.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 05:53 (Ref:3813876)   #49
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Crash damage aside, the thing isn't even that quick in general.

It seems to be a common trend that no 3-4 car team can consistantly field a full complement of competitive cars.

Not even Triple Eight can manage it on a regular basis.
Did today.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 06:01 (Ref:3813877)   #50
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Did today.
Well that much is obvious
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 06:34 (Ref:3813885)   #51
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Well that much is obvious
Well, maybe not all three of them today. In the race anyway.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 07:16 (Ref:3813891)   #52
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Word "regular" seems to have been overlooked.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 07:24 (Ref:3813893)   #53
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It seems to be a common trend that no 3-4 car team can consistantly field a full complement of competitive cars.
Has any team ever fielded a quadruple A+ driver lineup?

Walkinshaw came close to locking out top 4 results, even with the Kellys in two of the cars.

The different development requests of each the A+ drivers would certainly be a distraction though, as it is unlikely you'd find 4 drivers who all had the same preferences. It would be a lot easier to optimise the car development around the requirements of one A+ driver, and the lesser drivers can like it or lump it, lol.

I guess even 888 wouldn't have the resources to let each driver fully develop their car how they want. Or similarly, Hendrick Motorsport. Even they struggle to get all four cars up the front at the same time.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 07:55 (Ref:3813905)   #54
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You can measure the lack of credibility a team has, when it's known that they've got 4 cars at vastly different levels of specification, drivers seeking preferential treatment, etc, and then have the hide to whinge to the media that they're not moving forward as a group.

It's then easy to understand how one driver pops up out of nowhere in practice, or a previous event, or whever, setting the world on fire, and then to be fighting for scraps for the rest of their contract...

I'd have thought any meaningful results a team can generate, would surpass backhouse politics
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 08:25 (Ref:3813908)   #55
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I cant tell if you're referring to Prodrive or Nissan.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 08:42 (Ref:3813912)   #56
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I cant tell if you're referring to Prodrive or Nissan.
No, never
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 09:01 (Ref:3813919)   #57
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Word "regular" seems to have been overlooked.
JW DNF in Adelaide, Van Giz problems today, SVG strategy errors in Albert Park qualy. Or was that driver error induced by handling problems? Also SVG car engineering set up errors at Albert Park. (Sparking 'the car is a heap of junk, it's rubbish' comments)

Agreed that T888 has set such a high benchmark in the past it is easy to criticise more temporary and one off flaws as we have seen this year.
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 10:06 (Ref:3813927)   #58
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Ultimately. Impressive by Lowndes today.

to stay in the seat for next year today was a big tick

JLB, rookie drive of the year (so far) today. some would say T8 had 4 of the top 5 in qualyfying. T8 looking the goods

How did Fabs tyre stay on!
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 10:18 (Ref:3813929)   #59
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You can measure the lack of credibility a team has, when it's known that they've got 4 cars at vastly different levels of specification, drivers seeking preferential treatment, etc, and then have the hide to whinge to the media that they're not moving forward as a group.

It's then easy to understand how one driver pops up out of nowhere in practice, or a previous event, or whever, setting the world on fire, and then to be fighting for scraps for the rest of their contract...

I'd have thought any meaningful results a team can generate, would surpass backhouse politics
It's funny, but I would have imagined a racer for a team owner would be happy when any or all of their cars are competitive.

Yet it hasnít shown up that way at NisMoAu, WP, Tickford, DJR etc...

888 has probably been on that list for a while too...

SBR ran 3 cars for a while, and the 3rd one was sometime so the most competitive... while BJR took the 3rd car as a budget filler..

Madness..
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Old 8 Apr 2018, 10:44 (Ref:3813943)   #60
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You've got one team, with a driver there for various reasons not limited to marketing potential and actual driving talent on the only car that is supposedly paid up for the 3 seasons the contracts are written for, yet it's languishing down the back of the pack. No new chassis forthcoming, a change of engineer as soon as momentum is built, receives evolutions of parts seasons later...

You have another team, who has a driver they've burnt bridges and allegedly garnished the budgets of the other 3 cars to get a seat for, again comes highly praised, and is also wobbling at the back of the field, whilst the rest of the team is going through their annual form slump as they're once again out of step on development with the pointy end of the grid.
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