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Old 12 Jul 2019, 13:17 (Ref:3917164)   #5221
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I'm actually surprised this is the only change we have had so far for 2019
Last season by now we had AMD drop Boardman (almost as soon as the summer break started), Hill then split from Team Hard and revolving doors started at each, Josh Price was dropped off the grid at BMR and we had already lost James Nash a couple of races before...
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Old 12 Jul 2019, 14:49 (Ref:3917173)   #5222
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Like Moffats reply to a post on the BTCC facebook group.


post - "Now he can be mediocre in a nice new model"


reply - "there’s a second one there if you want to put your money where you keyboard warrior mouth is"
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Old 12 Jul 2019, 15:04 (Ref:3917176)   #5223
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with the TBL from Sam Tordoff ?
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Old 12 Jul 2019, 16:08 (Ref:3917184)   #5224
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Well now an Infiniti is back in the championship, it's good that this team they are with an established team and a race winning driver. Now we can see how good the car is.

First mid season car change since BMR in 2014 btw

Also seen a story saying that BMW can do no more with the car according to Colin, so there's more reason not to be doom and gloom about their dominance
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Old 12 Jul 2019, 17:39 (Ref:3917196)   #5225
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Also seen a story saying that BMW can do no more with the car according to Colin, so there's more reason not to be doom and gloom about their dominance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKDV-_SCBs
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Old 12 Jul 2019, 19:31 (Ref:3917221)   #5226
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Kind of knew Laser Tools would switch but I thought it would be next year, the Merc is going nowhere (same with Cicerly - im expecting them to change something up before next season) so makes sense to get some race distances under their belt to understand the car and where it is before a full assault next year.

Odds on Team Hard running 3 mercs next year now?
Would make sense for cicely to move to c class.


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Old 15 Jul 2019, 06:57 (Ref:3917752)   #5227
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Thinking of heading to the tyre test at Snetterton on Wednesday. Can anyone confirm if the day is timetabled and is it just BTCC or are support series there as well ? Do teams tend to do a lot of mileage ? Thanks !
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 07:33 (Ref:3917755)   #5228
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Thinking of heading to the tyre test at Snetterton on Wednesday. Can anyone confirm if the day is timetabled and is it just BTCC or are support series there as well ? Do teams tend to do a lot of mileage ? Thanks !
Just Btcc, I made it up a few years ago as was visiting friends in Suffolk that week and it rained so spent most of the day in the car eating sandwiches, but teams were putting the laps in and it was generally an open pit to go and talk to people and grab pictures etc.
I think thr cafe and toilets etc were open but don't expect burger stands and ice cream vans you get at an actual weekend event
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 08:21 (Ref:3917764)   #5229
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Reasonable mileage according to the timing data from last years event here: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=T.../182841trg.pdf
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 11:00 (Ref:3917801)   #5230
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Like Moffats reply to a post on the BTCC facebook group.


post - "Now he can be mediocre in a nice new model"


reply - "there’s a second one there if you want to put your money where you keyboard warrior mouth is"
Nice one. I rate this young man highly and have done long before his first BTCC outing in the Cruze. If he and his team can develop the car then there's no good reason it can't be a good 'un. RWD should help at some tracks, and aero wise eyesight says it's going to be cleaner through the air than the A Class.

Wondering if we'll see the A Class on track with another team in the future or whether the Laser boys have stripped it of bits for the Infiniti? Have to wonder Ciceley are working on something for next year too...
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 12:01 (Ref:3917816)   #5231
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Can anyone confirm if the day is timetabled and is it just BTCC or are support series there as well ?
AM session starts at 9, PM session finishes at 5, an hour for lunch in the middle.

Just BTCC teams. Paddock dinner will be open but don't expect any burger vans. Don't expect any commentary.
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 12:17 (Ref:3917821)   #5232
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aero wise eyesight says it's going to be cleaner through the air than the A Class.
Not a perfect measure, but a good indication of cleanness through the air of the base models can be derived from the coefficient of drag and frontal area figures:

ModelCdArea m^2CdA
G20 3-Series0.232.220.51
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A-Class0.282.20.62
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A40.312.20.68
Giulietta0.31N/KN/K
F20 1-Series0.322.140.68
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 18:27 (Ref:3917882)   #5233
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Genuinely surprised that the A Class figure wasn't higher - I imagined it would be on par with the slab fronted Giulietta.
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 18:42 (Ref:3917888)   #5234
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I see that HMS are bringing Rob Austin out to the tyre test to dust the cobwebs off the Alfa



Talking to the team at the AROC National Alfa Day where they had the second car on display they were pretty confident that they'll be back next year
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 18:49 (Ref:3917890)   #5235
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Genuinely surprised that the A Class figure wasn't higher - I imagined it would be on par with the slab fronted Giulietta.
Some manufacturers (typically those of higher priced cars) spend a lot of time on improving their aero. It's one of the unseen factors that makes makes them better engineered cars over cheaper alternatives.

The new A-Class saloon has a very impressive Cd of 0.22, but a lot of work goes into getting that figure.

'the A-Class's aerodynamics were managed by minimizing the car's frontal area on the drawing board, developing sealing further to include even the headlamp surroundings, and paneling nearly the entire underbody, including the engine bay and rear axle. There's also an optional shutter system for the radiator grille on some markets, to further reroute airflow.'
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