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Old 19 Jun 2019, 19:57 (Ref:3912965)   #31
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No but I strongly suspect part of his racing return was to do some prospecting among the crop of young drivers on the grid to tie deals up if he can and offer experience to.
I think Jakes dad manages him but I'm sure for a talent like that to have Mark offer to take under his wing with a global brand to back him could please all parties.

Im sure Simon knows his stuff, but I'm not sure Jake would have got into the mess he did leaving Team Hard with proper management and guidence
Simon looks after the commercial side of things for Jake & Jake looks after his own interests in the other areas. I’m sure they’d be happy to see what MB Partners might have to offer. Mark has been very complimentary about Jake, not only his natural talent but his professionalism and sponsor/pr abilities.
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Old 19 Jun 2019, 20:56 (Ref:3912973)   #32
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Simon looks after the commercial side of things for Jake & Jake looks after his own interests in the other areas. I’m sure they’d be happy to see what MB Partners might have to offer. Mark has been very complimentary about Jake, not only his natural talent but his professionalism and sponsor/pr abilities.
But equally MB Partners will be very keen to take 15% too...
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Old 19 Jun 2019, 21:34 (Ref:3912978)   #33
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But equally MB Partners will be very keen to take 15% too...
But if they bring in more backers for Jake I'm are they'd be happy to let MB Partners take their cut, instead of having to work their backsides off finding the budget throughout the year.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 10:02 (Ref:3913046)   #34
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Ah yes I forgot that, I do wonder if the test goes really well and they are top 10 Alan Gow will grant a guest entry to them for the last half of the year.

Tho I'm expecting Stewart Lines to offer the same for his TCT/Tcr thing to get the numbers up


That would be awesome if they were given an entry after the summer break, would be great to have them back. Although I’m not sure how keen Gow would be on that. We can hope, I see no harm in it
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 10:26 (Ref:3913051)   #35
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That would be awesome if they were given an entry after the summer break, would be great to have them back. Although I’m not sure how keen Gow would be on that. We can hope, I see no harm in it
He wants full season, professional, well-run outfits. How would they fit into that?
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 10:34 (Ref:3913055)   #36
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Well Handy have won in the championship, as has Rob Austin, so that shouldn’t be too much of a problem if that was the case
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 11:00 (Ref:3913059)   #37
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Remember that HMS still hold a TBL, so if they want back in for 2020 and have everything in place their entry is secured.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 11:06 (Ref:3913060)   #38
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Ah yes I forgot that, I do wonder if the test goes really well and they are top 10 Alan Gow will grant a guest entry to them for the last half of the year.
Tho I'm expecting Stewart Lines to offer the same for his TCT/Tcr thing to get the numbers up
HMS already have one entry in the TCT, and have their Avensis lined up for a second driver if someone comes forward. I wouldn't have thought they intend to run the Alfa there as well.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 12:54 (Ref:3913082)   #39
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Remember that HMS still hold a TBL, so if they want back in for 2020 and have everything in place their entry is secured.
Not so sure it is so guaranteed as that. Maybe so, but non-participation means it could be taken back. Up to AG.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 12:59 (Ref:3913084)   #40
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Not so sure it is so guaranteed as that. Maybe so, but non-participation means it could be taken back. Up to AG.
Mr Gow approved the season-long loan to Motorbase. If he was going to view the non-participation as a reason to take it back, why allow the loan?

The official BTCC publications state:
'The TOCA BTCC Licence (TBL) forms part of the entry requirement process. It is a tangible asset that may – with TOCA approval – be sold, gifted, leased, assigned or loaned between teams. The concept recognises the commitment of existing teams with security of participation and manages the championship’s high popularity.'

Maybe guarantee is considered too strong a word - but holding a TBL gives a security of participation.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 14:37 (Ref:3913107)   #41
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Thanks, good points.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 15:11 (Ref:3913119)   #42
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I think there is a fair chance they will be back in the non too distance future then
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 16:15 (Ref:3913136)   #43
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Official btcc forum which is still broken shows an article where HMS want to return with 2 cars
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 16:24 (Ref:3913141)   #44
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He wants full season, professional, well-run outfits. How would they fit into that?
Tbh it was a bit tongue in cheek but I suppose a guest entry non points scoring for a team which has run mid grid many years with a fan favorite race winning driver and a TBL to be on the grid next season already might not be the hardest sell in the world. He's allowed them to the mid season test and they had massive presence at Thruxton already, they did him av favor at the test last year letting AG sample the car and it might be a way to help them get sponsors to ensure they meet TBL requirement in 2020
This isn't some chancer arriving with an old avensis, no real credentials or plan.

I'm intreagued tho as I think there's something else that stopped them turning out in 2019, the story on them wanting to be running 2 cars is not what I was expecting even if an early day rumor... It will be even stranger if they now have nothing

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Official btcc forum which is still broken shows an article where HMS want to return with 2 cars
Not really an article, just some random poster making claims with no source to back them up. This link is to an image - https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AYh15c.jpg

The car on the left is clearly a show car
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