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Old 20 Jun 2019, 07:36 (Ref:3913032)   #1
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Oulton

Some narrow tarmac in a rather nice bit of parkland. Rapidly approaching too.

Given the limited overtaking opportunities qualy is key. This was the breakthrough track for the Scoob with Turks and JP snagging silverware and each other. Prior to Croft I'd have called Ash out as a race winner here (or challenger at least).

I reckon it's going to be a BMW at the pointy end for R1 and likely 2, with FWD cars like AmD, BTC, Motorbase and PMR snapping at their heels and one of those dudes taking R3.

Croft deja vu in other words... anyone think otherwise?
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 08:58 (Ref:3913038)   #2
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I think Oulton is often tough to predict considering the layout. I wouldn't be surprised if we see different names up at the front
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 10:12 (Ref:3913049)   #3
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Based on past form, I would say BMW should be strong here, but I think Subaru will have a better showing here. Oulton is not really about top speeds, but about corner entry and exits, which is where the Subaru’s strengths lie. I would say the Honda’s will be strong too.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 15:57 (Ref:3913133)   #4
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BMW walk over track... Yawn

Maybe Team Hard will shuffle some of their drivers about to give us something interesting to think about
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 19:58 (Ref:3913169)   #5
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Andy Jordan on pole and race 1 and 2 lights to flag win ?



one thing is sure, this year won't come close to having many winners per season when Jordan snatches them up like that
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 20:51 (Ref:3913180)   #6
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Andy Jordan on pole and race 1 and 2 lights to flag win ?



one thing is sure, this year won't come close to having many winners per season when Jordan snatches them up like that
Stupid idea to have reduced the ballast for the r1 winner.
If brands wasn't so disrupted by weather we would probably have seen BMW take races 1&2 at each round.
Yes they screwed the car together better than anyone else but fans want something different to the same team dominating, or they would just watch f1.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 21:00 (Ref:3913184)   #7
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Playing devils advocate here, has WSR just constructed an amazing car or have the other teams gone backwards for whatever reason? Why is the FK8 Honda getting beaten by the FK2? Why does the Subaru not look as potent as previous years? I think its a case of WSR have done their homework and have produced a very good car, but perhaps other teams haven't progressed or maybe even have gone backwards?
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 21:15 (Ref:3913186)   #8
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regarding the FK8 how come BTC gets much better results than Dynamics ?
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regarding the FK8 how come BTC gets much better results than Dynamics ?
Because BTC are getting the car in the window more consistently.

https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/143928/neal-fk8-honda-has-narrow-operating-window
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Also Ingram's Toyota arguably looks like a handful compared to the Avensis of last year. I just think that a lot of the competititon are having troubles of their own which coincides with WSR producing a fantastic car. I think the rest of the teams need to look at themselves rather than trying to claw WSR back in.
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Playing devils advocate here, has WSR just constructed an amazing car or have the other teams gone backwards for whatever reason? Why is the FK8 Honda getting beaten by the FK2? Why does the Subaru not look as potent as previous years? I think its a case of WSR have done their homework and have produced a very good car, but perhaps other teams haven't progressed or maybe even have gone backwards?
Yes hats off to WSR for getting it right, especially as the car was only really ready a week or so before the season started. The teams do need to get their acts together, I am surprised Dynamics especially have not made real gains in the new Honda.
Subaru - have they gone backwards? Its been their most consistent ever start but they were not as stella as I expected at Croft from previous years.


I don't think messing about with the ballast helped, and I didn't see what the point was.

I haven't found it entertaining and other teams having to play catch up while another tee am dominates is why I stopped watching F1 years ago and that hasn't changed.
Lets hope this is a short term issue in btcc
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 07:27 (Ref:3913239)   #12
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I think WSR have got the car to their liking almost immediately, which has left the others trailing

The reason why they reduced the ballest was to stop title leaders always being right in the middle of the back, say 14th or 16th. And I think that was probably right
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My own preference would be for a two-tier ballast system.

At the moment, cars start a weekend with championship ballast. Then for R2 and R3, the ballast is based on the last race alone.

I think that the championship ballast levels should be as they are - but the race ballast should be upped significantly.

That way - consistent drivers/teams will enter the weekend with a reasonable chance of good results (particularly Q and R1), without their weekend being hampered totally. However, the ballast should then make it significantly difficult to take a R2 lights-flag win, and even more so in R3 with the reverse grid.
I think the consistent performers will still rise to the top and be challenging for championship honours, but it would prevent the R2 procession we are in danger of seeing too often this season.
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 08:29 (Ref:3913256)   #14
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I was wondering to myself if R2 would now be better for the reverse grid draw now.
R1 winner having to put up more fight and then finishing order for R3
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They did that when they first introduced the reverse grid in 04. That was when Plato kept going slow so he could start further up the grid for R2
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