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Old 15 Jul 2009, 15:30 (Ref:2502306)   #1
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F3 Euroseries 7 & 8 - Circuit Park Zandvoort

CPZ revisited. With luck, maybe the circuit's live stream will work and we'll actually get to see the races.

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Friday 17.07.2009
10:30 – 13:15 hrs Formula 3 Euro Series pre test
17:35 – 18:05 hrs Formula 3 Euro Series qualifying

Saturday 18.07.2009
11:40 – 12:10 hrs Formula 3 Euro Series race 1

Sunday 19.07.2009
10:30 – 11:10 hrs Formula 3 Euro Series race 2

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http://www.circuit-zandvoort.nl/index.xml
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Old 16 Jul 2009, 10:23 (Ref:2502676)   #2
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gomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Jules Bianchi & Christian Vietoris have won the last 4 races - time for Roberto Merhi to get a win i reckon...
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Time for Brendon Hartley to win too...
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It was pretty much all-ART Grand Prix last time IIRC (Tango Masters on Kumho tires). Is Nick Tandy in this weekend (as well as Jokinen)? and, the Norisring highlights suggest a possible further penalty for Stefano Coletti but nothing since? Dunno. Good pace of late from Mücke Motorsport.
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tandy's in for the rest of the season, and didn't coletti's punishment get passed to something higher up? i don't think it was going to be specifically for zandvoort.
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Coletti looked any thing but apologetic in the news reel...not that it matters.
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Old 17 Jul 2009, 07:55 (Ref:2503141)   #7
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Time for Brendon Hartley to win too...
Was going to mention Brendan too, but i get confused as to whether he is in WSR or F3
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Autosport and F3ES write-ups on qualifying.

3 stoppages apparently, an off by Sam Bird, but no comment on Hartley's (or Mustonen's) results. It looks like Hartley's having a tough couple of weeks...a good chance to show your mettle maybe, dunno.

Qualifying:
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Pos  Driver        Team                   Time              Laps
 1.  Bianchi       ART Grand Prix         1:30.431           17
 2.  Vietoris      Mücke Motorsport       1:30.709  + 0.278  18
 3.  Vernay        Signature              1:30.807  + 0.376  16
 4.  Bottas        ART Grand Prix         1:31.053  + 0.622  17
 5.  Mäki          Signature              1:31.309  + 0.878  16
 6.  Merhi         Manor Motorsport       1:31.415  + 0.984  19
 7.  Zanella       Motopark Academy       1:31.416  + 0.985  19
 8.  Gutierrez     ART Grand Prix         1:31.514  + 1.083  17
 9.  Geronimi      Signature              1:31.622  + 1.191  20
10.  Caldarelli    SG Formula             1:31.689  + 1.258  17
11.  Coletti       Prema Powerteam        1:31.704  + 1.273  15
12.  Rosenzweig    Carlin Motorsport      1:31.926  + 1.495  17
13.  Waldschmidt   SG Formula             1:32.023  + 1.592  16
14.  Wittmann      Mücke Motorsport       1:32.118  + 1.687  19
15.  Bird          Mücke Motorsport       1:32.190  + 1.759  8 
16.  Tambay        ART Grand Prix         1:32.221  + 1.790  16
17.  Tandy         Kolles & Heinz Union   1:32.277  + 1.846  19
18.  Sims          Mücke Motorsport       1:32.304  + 1.873  20
19.  Ramos         Manor Motorsport       1:32.366  + 1.935  15
20.  Hartley       Carlin Motorsport      1:32.402  + 1.971  15
21.  Mustonen      Motopark Academy       1:32.588  + 2.157  18
22.  Chinosi       Prema Powerteam        1:32.662  + 2.231  15
23.  Enrique       Manor Motorsport       1:32.906  + 2.475  18
24.  Mirocha       HBR Motorsport         1:33.339  + 2.908  7 
25.  Cecotto       HBR Motorsport         1:33.614  + 3.183  17
26.  Shaaban       Prema Powerteam        1:33.815  + 3.384  13
27.  Jokinen       Kolles & Heinz Union   1:33.889  + 3.458  18
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Old 17 Jul 2009, 21:13 (Ref:2503523)   #9
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Hartley must have had a problem? I keep expecting him to get right up there, but it's yet to happen. He does indeed need to show a bit of mettle L2LO. More interestingly his much more inexperienced team-mate Jake Rosenzweig put in a good performance in 12th. Aside from Bottas and Sims, I think two other rookies who are ones to watch out for are Zanella and Geronimi, the latter was quite impressive at the Masters. He had several wins in FBMW Europe last season but was slightly inconsistent.
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Would it be fair to say Carlin are struggling in the Euroseries?
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Would it be fair to say Carlin are struggling in the Euroseries?
Yes, I think they only managed a couple of points last season, despite running Hartley in 8 races, as well as Gonzales and Phillipe for the duration of the championship, none of them are slow. Not sure why though, as they are obviously one of the leading F3 teams in the world.
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A bit miffed the live stream wasn't working but happened to catch Valtteri Bottas legitimately overtake Vietoris on the pitcam and, a first lap melee (c/w SC) sounds the same in any language. Bianchi and Bottas 1/2 but no mistaking Bianchi's sizeable advantage.

Autosport and F3ES articles and, results race 1:

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Pos Driver                      Team          Car         Time/Gap
 1. Jules Bianchi               ART           D/M       31m04.337s
 2. Valtteri Bottas             ART           D/M           +2.109
 3. Christian Vietoris          Mucke         D/M           +3.004
 4. Jean-Karl Vernay            Signature     D/V           +4.852
 5. Esteban Gutierrez           ART           D/M           +5.198
 6. Henkie Waldschmidt          SG            D/M           +6.937
 7. Jake Rosenzweig             Carlin        D/V           +7.532
 8. Sam Bird                    Mucke         D/M           +7.701
 9. Atte Mustonen               Motopark      D/M           +8.148
10. Brendon Hartley             Carlin        D/V           +9.273
11. Adrien Tambay               ART           D/M          +10.072
12. Marco Wittmann              Mucke         D/M          +10.596
13. Alexander Sims              Mucke         D/M          +11.302
14. Pedro Nunes                 Manor         D/M          +11.888
15. Johnny Cecotto Jr           HBR           D/M          +15.954
16. Basil Shaaban               Prema         D/M          +16.961
17. Cesar Ramos                 Manor         D/M          +16.966
18. Roberto Merhi               Manor         D/M          +17.386
19. Johan Jokinen               HBR           D/V          +17.838
20. Matteo Chinosi              Prema         D/M          + 1 lap
21. Christopher Zanella         Motopark      D/M         + 5 laps

Retirements
    Andrea Caldarelli           SG            D/M           9 laps
    Mika Maki                   Signature     D/V           0 laps
    Nick Tandy                  Kolles        D/V           0 laps
    Stefano Coletti             Prema         D/M           0 laps
    Tiago Geronimi              Signature     D/V           0 laps

Fastest lap, Bianchi 1m31.076s
(When was the last time an American started on the front row of an F3 ES race)?
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(When was the last time an American started on the front row of an F3 ES race)?
Must have been Jonathan Summerton in 2006 when he won the reverse grid race at Hockenheim. Himself and Charlie Kimball are the only American drivers to have won IIRC.
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Oh good answer Runshaw! A great result for Rosenzweig esp. considering his results to date. From what's been written, I take it Sam Bird, Brendon Hartley and Atte Mustonen also put in some good drives today. Bianchi's lead though over 7 seconds at one point. Are there not even any delayed video replays out there? somewhere? ever? :good grief:

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Bianchi from 8th on the grid in Race 2 ahead of Bird and Rosenzweig.

Standings after 8 races:

1 Bianchi 49
2 Vietoris 32
4 Bird 23
5 Merhi 20
6 Bottas 18
7 Coletti 12
8 Mäki 9
9 Guttierrez 9
10 Sims 9
11 Hartley 8
12 Waldschmidt 8
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Who would have thought that Rosenzweig and not Hartley would score Carlin's first Euroseries podium?!
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Jake Rosenzweig Grabs F3 Euro Series Podium at Zandvoort

Rosenzweig stepped up his game this weekend, and demonstrated some real pace posting the third fastest lap of the race. His first F3 points on Saturday and then an impressive podium finish today. Quite something to secure Carlin's first Euro Series podium ever. Considering this is only his second year in cars, the F3 Euro Series would seem to be a bit of an ask, but after today, and in only his 4th F3 race, there would appear to be cause to rate this young American rookie. He had Vietoris on him for half the race and held up well under the pressure- maybe his karting background saw him through. While he probably did not have enough to pass Bird, he was closing the gap. All in all, quite an improvement for him since his middling showing at the Masters a few weeks ago. Maybe Carlin is getting a better handle on the Kumho tires. If they do, I would expect Hartley to start challenging at the front. Bianchi was flying yet again, and ART seems to have the setup just right for every track.
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