2018 DTM - Page 8

DS" · 18 Jul 2018, 11:33 (Ref:3837291)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

What I also wonder about is how much this Red Bull-Aston Martin-HWA effort would have in common with Aston Martin Racing?

In my opinion, it's still pretty much a Red Bull entry. The only link to AMR are probably factory drivers like Martin or Thiim and that's it.

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Maserati and Lexus are still possibilities, yet less likely.

Berger has recently talked about the 2019 schedule and said that he wanted to establish DTM in Italy in a long-term effort*. So at the very least, Berger is rolling out the carpet to Maserati.

*Which isn't a bad idea, if DTM really stays there for a couple of years AND has a good, coherent marketing strategy.

Nononsensecapeesh · 19 Jul 2018, 12:45 (Ref:3837494)

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Originally Posted by DS"

In my opinion, it's still pretty much a Red Bull entry. The only link to AMR are probably factory drivers like Martin or Thiim and that's it.

Berger has recently talked about the 2019 schedule and said that he wanted to establish DTM in Italy in a long-term effort*. So at the very least, Berger is rolling out the carpet to Maserati.

*Which isn't a bad idea, if DTM really stays there for a couple of years AND has a good, coherent marketing strategy.

Hope the rumours are true though DTM has survived with just 2 Manufacturers before, 6 whole years between Opel's departure and the return of BMW.

Matt K · 19 Jul 2018, 15:26 (Ref:3837532)

But now it will no longer be the case. Neither Audi nor BMW are willing to participate in the series for two manufacturers. Moreover, previously there were 10 cars from each manufacturer. Today there's different economic situation and Audi and BMW can probably field at most 8 cars each, however, that'd still be a problem assuming now we have 18-car field.

helgi · 20 Jul 2018, 22:02 (Ref:3837754)

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Originally Posted by DS"

Berger has recently talked about the 2019 schedule and said that he wanted to establish DTM in Italy in a long-term effort*. So at the very least, Berger is rolling out the carpet to Maserati.

Aren't they trying to make all the Maseratii to become moving plugs (I mean, "electrify" them)? Or they use this brand only because a highly anticipated Alfa are busy with sponsoring some F1 team?

touring fan01 · 21 Jul 2018, 10:59 (Ref:3837813)

A 4 cylinder Aston Martin?!
How’s that going to promote sales of their cars??

Juntos · 22 Jul 2018, 20:28 (Ref:3838127)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

A 4 cylinder Aston Martin?!
How’s that going to promote sales of their cars??

People will look at an aggressive looking bodywork and won't give a damn of what is inside. I'd guess this is not a project to promote Aston Martin sales. For that they run and pour money in GTE class.

touring fan01 · 23 Jul 2018, 08:39 (Ref:3838221)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

I'd guess this is not a project to promote Aston Martin sales.

then why would aston martin waste money to do something that doesnt promote sales or even reflect their engineering?

BobJones · 23 Jul 2018, 09:05 (Ref:3838235)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

People will look at an aggressive looking bodywork and won't give a damn of what is inside.

True that. Only us on TenTenths and commenters on motorsport websites care. The majority of viewers/spectators want to see some exciting racing. And if it means more competitors, that is only a good thing.

Juntos · 23 Jul 2018, 21:33 (Ref:3838372)

A good looking car on close racing series for a margin of a GTE budget, sounds a great plan to me.

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

then why would aston martin waste money to do something that doesnt promote sales or even reflect their engineering?

DTM is a racing show not a shop-window of products.

Matt · 24 Jul 2018, 03:03 (Ref:3838412)

It would be a pipe dream, but man a Polestar 1 in Class One spec would be an awesome thing.

It even runs a 2.0l 4cyl with force induction on the street car!

DS" · 24 Jul 2018, 12:55 (Ref:3838484)

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Originally Posted by Matt

It would be a pipe dream, but man a Polestar 1 in Class One spec would be an awesome thing.

It even runs a 2.0l 4cyl with force induction on the street car!

I guess Polestar as a manufacturer is too small for DTM. But speaking of: Cyan Racing should have some capacities left, now that they don't do STCC or WTCC at the moment. IIRC, Volvo was interested in entering DTM, before they decided to do WTCC. But now with the new engines and the willingness of DTM to do sensible internationalisation - i.e. driving in countries where there are enough fans or where they may be enough manufacturer interest -, DTM may be more interesting to Volvo/Geely now. I'm sure if they demand a race in China, the DTM would surely oblige.

**FIRE** · 24 Jul 2018, 19:29 (Ref:3838577)

IMO it doesn't maken sense for Geely/Volvo to enter DTM. Their future is electric. Makes more sense to enter F-E and have a customer TCR programme.

Mark0994 · 7 Aug 2018, 12:46 (Ref:3842082)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...red-bull-ring/

Sébastien Ogier secures Mercedes wild card drive at the Red Bull Ring

cg7aa · 8 Aug 2018, 20:38 (Ref:3842403)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...red-bull-ring/

Sébastien Ogier secures Mercedes wild card drive at the Red Bull Ring

Fascinating, do we know how much testing he's had?

cg7aa · 8 Aug 2018, 20:39 (Ref:3842404)

Is anybody in the UK going to Brands from the Bedfordshire or East Northamptonshire area and if so, on what days?

Anyopenroad · 11 Aug 2018, 09:39 (Ref:3842945)

Glorious day at Brands Hatch. The DTM cars are awesome. Very fast, very loud and look amazing.

Juntos · 11 Aug 2018, 13:06 (Ref:3842964)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

Glorious day at Brands Hatch. The DTM cars are awesome. Very fast, very loud and look amazing.

Only not that great for Jamie Green. What you do today will determine your future, Jamie!

Mountain Man · 11 Aug 2018, 15:25 (Ref:3842993)

Been a great day, but the timings are really odd. You have the main event finishing early afternoon, then just a few demos and a few support bits for the rest of the afternoon for the following 4 hours. I've significant numbers leaving after the DTM. I know there is a pit walk at the end of the day, but it seems bad organising to front load it so much. Especially as the 1st hour was DTM practice when a lot of people were just arriving. Would have made a lot more sense to shift the whole schedule back an hour or two

redshoes · 11 Aug 2018, 15:53 (Ref:3843002)

The timetable, and lack of anything else happening, was one of the reasons I decided to give this one a miss. When '15 min signal, '3 min signal' and 'start of green flag lap' are listed as separate lines on the schedule , you know they are struggling to pad out the page.

Anyopenroad · 11 Aug 2018, 16:28 (Ref:3843004)

I loved it. 45 mins or so of practice in the early morning sun with hardly anyone around. Watched Qual from inside Paddock Hill Bend, which I don't usually get to. Race just long enough to walk a lot of the track. Done by 1430 and at home by 1600. 2,200 photos to sort through. Lovely!

I don't follow DTM so I have no knowledge of the championship standings or dynamics. I just know that I just spent a glorious 3/4 of a day at a picturesque track in the sun watching absolutely incredible cars - loud, fast and great to look at. I've still got a big grin on my face and my ears are ringing.

My only regret is that I can't make it to Brands tomorrow for more.

cg7aa · 11 Aug 2018, 16:35 (Ref:3843009)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

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I just know that I just spent a glorious 3/4 of a day at a picturesque track in the sun watching absolutely incredible cars - loud, fast and great to look at. I've still got a big grin on my face and my ears are ringing.

My only regret is that I can't make it to Brands tomorrow for more.

Fantastic, sounds like you had fun day out.

They are a bit loud aren't they? I was a little disappointed they all sounded the same when I saw them in July at the Norisring (I had forgotten they used the same engine although the Audis seemed louder off throttle with a bit more popping and banging).

Evantra · 11 Aug 2018, 16:37 (Ref:3843010)

Shame the stream for the UK round was blocked in the UK...

Mountain Man · 11 Aug 2018, 16:47 (Ref:3843012)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

The timetable, and lack of anything else happening, was one of the reasons I decided to give this one a miss. When '15 min signal, '3 min signal' and 'start of green flag lap' are listed as separate lines on the schedule , you know they are struggling to pad out the page.

To be fair, they do that at Spa for the 24 hours too. I think it's just a stylistic thing. My issue isn't the amount of stuff, it's the order of it.

Alfaholic · 11 Aug 2018, 19:08 (Ref:3843044)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Shame the stream for the UK round was blocked in the UK...

It's on Freesports TV - Channel 422 on Sky if you have it, or available on the TV Player app without subscription.

redshoes · 11 Aug 2018, 19:49 (Ref:3843052)

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

To be fair, they do that at Spa for the 24 hours too. I think it's just a stylistic thing.

Yes, but I wouldn't expect to see a lot of support race activity for a meeting with a 24hr race. A single 55min race on the other hand....

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