2015 Creventic 24H Series

[Coach Ep]

Not a clue about the numbers but Creventic has a couple of 'budget friendly' items for their series to keep their customers satisfied:

- low entry fee (incl. transportation to Dubai per sea container)
- fuel 'at the pump' (no need for expensive refueling equipment)
- lots of drivers per car allowed (up to 5 or perhaps even 6?)
- controlled tire (Hankook)

[Deleted]

- If you have some car, and some licence you can run
- They (GT3) are the top category and other cars are axed out of the way if in theoretical reach, also even inside the class you have the handicaps for everyone
- Sub trophies in sub classes form sub categories for same cars
- Camels are fun to ride
- Teams aren't operating from Greece
- Everyone is either drunk or high when they sign on

[Speed-King]

So I went down to Barcelona this weekend to cover the 24 hours for GT-eins.de

If anyone cares, here's my report:
http://www.gt-eins.de/Berichte2015/2...na/index1.html

It's in German, but our Spanish photographer said it's quite readable through Google-Translate.



All in all it was a pretty good race, most surprising was that a relatively large number of people came out to watch what is essentially a glorified club race. The paddock grandstand (which probably seats around 1500) was still pretty packed 9 hours into the race and the paddock was somewhat busy as well. Definitely never had the "only-people-here-are-teams-and-their-families"-feeling that one often tends to get at smaller sports car events.

[joeb]

Thanks, I followed some drivers during the race on twitter, and for being a "glorified club race" they sure had some talent in some of those cars!

[MGDavid]

I don't think Bernd Schneider would much like being called a glorified club racer. Then again he'd probably have a good belly laugh at it...

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

I don't think Bernd Schneider would much like being called a glorified club racer. Then again he'd probably have a good belly laugh at it...

Oh, there are great drivers in the Creventic races, no doubt about that (Also: Jäger, Onslow-Cole, Bleekemolen, etc.), but it's not a high profile event in the conventional sense and nearly every car has at least one - usually more - drivers that pay for the whole thing. Teams aren't in it for sponsorship, let alone prize money.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Oh, there are great drivers in the Creventic races, no doubt about that (Also: Jäger, Onslow-Cole, Bleekemolen, etc.), but it's not a high profile event in the conventional sense and nearly every car has at least one - usually more - drivers that pay for the whole thing. Teams aren't in it for sponsorship, let alone prize money.

Absolutely; it provides a great opportunity for the amateur racer who prefers endurance format, no doubt about that. A couple of the teams are local to me and I did enquire about a drive - it would have consumed all my budget for my next car build!

[Gingers4Justice]

So...very interesting that the running of the Silverstone 24 Hours, despite already having an entry list full of Moslers, Porsches and various Britcar-type things, has been taken over by Creventic and their first move was to tear up the current entry list and start over again as a touring-car only event. This, despite the fact the event comes around fairly quickly in April 2016.

One of the reasons given was the noise restrictions, which doesn't really wash with me considering the great lengths James Tucker went to in negotiating with Silverstone and Whittlebury residents to get permission to race again. He finally won that permission and last year's race ran with GTs and even an LMP3 car, albeit fitted with silencers.

I'd far rather they were honest and said that in a market already saturated by endurance races at many circuits with legitimate reasons for being called "iconic", there simply isn't the appetite for another one for GT3 cars, especially if they have to be severely and strictly silenced. There are also very few genuine 24 hour races for touring cars, and the Silverstone 24 hours has threatened to gather pace a couple of times since the turn of the millenium but has suffered some major set-backs. Although the GTs and sports prototypes will be sorely missed by those of us who liked the "mini Le Mans" feel the race tried (bet never really managed) to capture, turning it into a Willhire-style 24 hour race for touring cars with an international flavour actually makes a tonne of sense.

The fact entries were flying in the same weekend the move was announced justifies the decision.

[courageous]

take a look at previous Britcar "provisional" entry lists compared to cars that actually turned up for an indication of just how full the 2016 entry list might have been in reality

several times an entry on JT's lists came as quite a suprise to the team themselves.

[tux]

Today Creventics usually happy world showed signs of frustration from certain teams and drivers.

Scuderia Praha won the event and despite having 4 drivers entered ran Kox and Malucelli for the majority of the race which obviously didn't go down well with certain amateur drivers, despite not being against the rules.

BUT then Tom Onslow Cole posted this video of the team using a tyre warming device - https://twitter.com/tomonslowcole/st...63441624391685

The regulations state - 22.2 It is forbidden to use and/or the mere presence of tyre-warmers or any other method to artificially increase the tyre
temperature throughout the event.

Now the method is crude and maybe doesn't provide much if any advantage but track temperature and ambient temperature was very low throughout the race.

I wondered what you all thought about this. Creventic themselves haven't said a thing, most of the race reports dont say anything (although it was spoken about on the actual tv coverage).

[tux]

Just to add from Onslow Coles interview during the race it seems the "top" class will become so that the "bronze" or amateur drivers will have to drive a % of race time similar to GTE AM.

[Coach Ep]

Provisional calendar 2016 (so far)

January 15-16 Dubai 24H
March 18-19 Mugello 12H
April 2-3 Silverstone 24H (Touring Cars only)
May 6-7 Zandvoort 12H
July 16-17 Paul Ricard 24H
September 3-4 Barcelona 24H

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Provisional calendar 2016 (so far)

January 15-16 Dubai 24H
March 18-19 Mugello 12H
April 2-3 Silverstone 24H (Touring Cars only)
May 6-7 Zandvoort 12H
July 16-17 Paul Ricard 24H
September 3-4 Barcelona 24H

Hmm, how come the Silverstone 24 Hours will only have touring cars? Was it something to do about the other Britcar 24 Hour race at Silverstone?

[Coach Ep]

No, Creventic and Britcar are running that one in conjunction and TC only mainly because of noise restrictions if I am correct?

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

No, Creventic and Britcar are running that one in conjunction and TC only mainly because of noise restrictions if I am correct?

Yeah, it was the noise restrictions that did it for the GTs - the residents have been complaining about it for quite a while. Mind, when you have Honda Fits being flagged for noise violations the situation may have become just a tad ridiculous.

[Coach Ep]

You should hear the Honda Civics in Conti Challenge ST - waaay too loud for their speed!

[MagVanisher]

That's terrible in regards to Silverstone 24 Hours. Honestly, I call it bias when those folks don't mind hearing Formula One cars racing there, yet they complain other forms of motorsport due to being noisy!

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

That's terrible in regards to Silverstone 24 Hours. Honestly, I call it bias when those folks don't mind hearing Formula One cars racing there, yet they complain other forms of motorsport due to being noisy!

F1 don't run for 24 hours through the night.

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

F1 don't run for 24 hours through the night.

I know, but let's not forget that Silverstone was once a military airfield before converting into a racing circuit.

Placing a house near the circuit is somewhat dangerous!

[SWCRacing]

FYI...

Silverstone was a military airfield during the Second World War, ie it was last used approximately 70 years ago

As a resident of the village I can assure you that the most intrusive events are: Blancpain endurance, Silverstone Classic, British GT, WEC support races (in that order). F1, especially these days, doesn't even register.... The wind direction also has an impact on whether there is any nuisance from the circuit operations. Somedays, when the wind is blowing towards the circuit, it is noisier than other days when it is blowing from the circuit towards the village.... its very strange!

The complaints regarding noise during previous Britcar event mostly came from the village of Whittlebury (I believe), and there are unconfirmed reports that one year the complaints were about a period when the race was suspended due to fog, and the noise was from the A43 road that runs between the village and the circuit

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by SWCRacing

FYI...

Silverstone was a military airfield during the Second World War, ie it was last used approximately 70 years ago

As a resident of the village I can assure you that the most intrusive events are: Blancpain endurance, Silverstone Classic, British GT, WEC support races (in that order). F1, especially these days, doesn't even register.... The wind direction also has an impact on whether there is any nuisance from the circuit operations. Somedays, when the wind is blowing towards the circuit, it is noisier than other days when it is blowing from the circuit towards the village.... its very strange!

The complaints regarding noise during previous Britcar event mostly came from the village of Whittlebury (I believe), and there are unconfirmed reports that one year the complaints were about a period when the race was suspended due to fog, and the noise was from the A43 road that runs between the village and the circuit

The airfield argument doesn't work, obviously. 70 years ago is not a relevant time to now. So fully agree.

However, the houses are sold at a price which takes into account the fact that there is a race track there. If a house is then purchased with this knowledge, then IMO that means complaints cannot then be made.

There's a reason houses near airports are a cheap.

[hondafan37]

Glickenhaus plans to race 12 hours Mugello with the SCG 003 in 2016
http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...10658&Itemid=1

[Coach Ep]

I don't see why these cars couldn't compete in GT3/GTE(GTLM) trim - after all everything is BoP'ed beyond death these days so these beauties could easily be fitted in.

Good to see Glickenhaus taking on more races!

[rich07]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Glickenhaus plans to race 12 hours Mugello with the SCG 003 in 2016

http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...10658&Itemid=1

That'll be awesome to see. Would be nice to see it run in an invitational class at Bathurst 12hr

[GT-Eins]

Originally Posted by rich07

...Would be nice to see it run in an invitational class at Bathurst 12hr

Mount Panoramas concrete walls are waiting for them...