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Old 15 Sep 2003, 03:34 (Ref:719081)   #51
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He knew there was'nt anything he could do (even if he cuaght him) so he did the smart thing and brought it home. He has a championship to consider, suprisingly your personal entertainment does'nt outrank that.
I can't agree more. Monty had the best he can do...
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 03:57 (Ref:719091)   #52
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That wing shot is completely deceptive. Even if you take into consideration the shape of the Williams wing, it looks like they were running 20 vs 4 degrees to the Williams. The difference would be say 2 degrees and not visable in a shot like that.
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 09:13 (Ref:719288)   #53
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I think Montoya did a good job, in a car which didn't seem capable of really challenging for a win,. Taht first lap had me off my seat, ti was amazing to watch, and he showed maturity given the championship situation by kepeing second safe rather than going for a wild move. If Frentzen (who uses Ferrari engines....) hadsn't blocked him, the result may ahve been different.

With only 7 points betweent eh top 3, it's still all to play for
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 09:47 (Ref:719330)   #54
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But wouldnt you say that JPM had a pretty capable car for Monza? The engine sure was damn competitive, and the Williams package was, if not better, still able to hold on to Ferrari?
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 09:52 (Ref:719337)   #55
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Frankly speaking, i'm convinced he never could have put MS' lead in serious damage: even during the second stint, he got close, but never could move a real attack.

At the end of the day, he might have thought, losing only two points is not that bad, the championship fight hasn't changed for that; if things havegone like this, well, i'd agree with JPM
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 10:08 (Ref:719348)   #56
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Frank Williams has defended JPM about why he backed off in the final stint.

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Williams, however, said: "Juan didn't put a foot wrong. He challenged when he could, he got his head down when he had to and then he took the decision to get the car to the line in the final stint.

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=24600&s=5
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 10:31 (Ref:719356)   #57
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OK if Monty wins Indy, and TGF is second, that means that Monty will be 1 point behind again as they go to Suzuka.
Monty needs TGF to finish way down the order at Indy, as Suzuka is likely to be evens.
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 10:36 (Ref:719361)   #58
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It was an interesting race from the viewpoint of those who like to analyse. From a RACERS standpoint it was a bit dull (!!) after the first lap.

I don't feel Montoya was lacklustre at all, and neither was Mick. It was very very close and Ferrari/Schumacher just shaded it in the end through having a slightly better package/set up and of course keeping Montoya behind on the first lap. JPM may rue the lost time at the Ascari on Saturday - ultimately I think that cost him the win. As far as set-up goes, and considering that strategy was the same, I think Williams ran with the extra wing because they probably thought that with the BMW they might not lose much in a straight line, but Ferrari caught them out on the engine front. As far as the tyres go, it certainly didn't help the Michelin teams that they had a new tyre to deal with, but at Monza, it matters less the most places.

Watching the split times, a very stable pattern emerged during the end of the first stint and throughout the second. Mick and monty were more or less level through S1, Mick 1/10th or so better off in s2 and Monty 2/10tyhs or so better off in S3. During this period Monty cout the gap from just under 5 secs to just under 1 sec. I think this sow the level that both drivers were driving at and that Monty was anything but lacklustre. Mick's gold this weekend was that he didn't make a mistake and that he held off Monty at the start of the race. It was so close that one mistake would have put it either way, and Monty made that mistake on Saturday. Overall, if you view the sector times individually during the weekend, Monty was the quicker man, but Mick held it together better, because, as has been stated, Monty had to put harder to go the same speed, something he did very well.

As for the backmarkers, well I wouldn't bother too much with them. Of course they should have moved quicker but that is an age old problem and I don't have the answer. I don't think it interfered with the result. Monty didn't just give up, he just accepted that he had driven as well as he could, the package wasn't quite there and he was going to get 8 points.

Fair play to Mick, it was a superb drive under pressure (remember Monza 2000). I think it shows how close Mnty and Mick are as drivers.

Sorry for the long post.
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Good post Irv.

Shrub, while they aren't the best photos for comparison I think there was a noticeable difference to the rear wings. It isn't just the angle of wing that can be changed.

However observers at the track (Brundle for instance) said that it looked like the Williams was using more wing, this had been mentioned on the grid walk too. I think it is clear that the Williams was running more wing and that they were slower in a straight line, from the same article Led Zepp posted http://www.autosport.co.uk/newsitem.asp?id=24600&s=5
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