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Old 12 Jan 2018, 00:12 (Ref:3792168)   #1
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F1 Drivers Moonlighting

As the Toro Rosso Honda thread does not seem the right place for this discussion. (Maybe a Moderator would consider moving the off thread post relating to Daytona posts from that thread to here?)

Daytona Qualifying 2018

http://results.imsa.com/

http://results.imsa.com/ (Thanks Richard)

Car 37

Robin Frijns 1:37.697
Juncadella 1:37.971
Rosenquvist 1:37.995
Stroll 1:38.423


Car 23

Fernando Alonso 1:37.515
Lando Norris 1:38.079
Phil Hanson 1:39.138

Not Mr Stroll's best day at the office.

Class from Alonso.
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 00:31 (Ref:3792172)   #2
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i'm on a touch screen and moving posts is an absolute pita to do via screen prodding so i'll leave that to someone else.

but you do realise you're wrong about wec timing, right? they do list exactly who does what times... unless i'm missing a point?
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 02:40 (Ref:3792192)   #3
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i'm on a touch screen and moving posts is an absolute pita to do via screen prodding so i'll leave that to someone else.

but you do realise you're wrong about wec timing, right? they do list exactly who does what times... unless i'm missing a point?
Thanks Bella, I had not seen that before, I am not hugely interested in endurance racing, so all I wanted before was the individual qualifying times, and up to now I have not been able to see them.

Originally was scratching for Schumacher, Frentzen, Wendlinger, Mass times at Mercedes WEC, after a driver I knew had seen Schumacher in the wet in the Mercedes and sworn blind he was untouchable and would be a future WDC, good tip!

Back to Daytona quali

Car 31

Felipe Nasr 1:35.806 (Pole Position) Great Work!
Mike Conway 1:37.477
Eric Curran 1:37.976
Stuart Middleton 1:38.352

Car 32

Bruno Senna 1:37.779
Paul DiResta 1:38.869
Hugo de Sadelaar 1:39.719
Will Owen 1:39.869

Looks like young Bruno isn't as slow as some think, specially up against Di Resta, another Williams wannabee.

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Old 12 Jan 2018, 08:07 (Ref:3792227)   #4
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i think you’re overanalysing to a degree and assuming a level playing field. but i do agree that bruno senna is underrated - he’s a clever boy. not that di resta isn’t, but...
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3792245)   #5
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I agree, Bruno was a very solid driver in F1 and that approach is showing up well in sportscars. Certainly it's good to see so many current and ex F1 drivers in Daytona. It's a shame though Nasr isn't in F1 anymore
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 10:24 (Ref:3792251)   #6
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Jenson Button will be a moonlightling Super GT driver when he drives a Jaguar XJR-9 at Le Mans Classic this year.

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When I read this thread title I kind of chuckled, because I don't see it as moonlighting for these drivers. I see them as racing drivers, capable of driving a wide range of machinery, but happen to be employed in F1 at the moment. I know it may be semantics, but that is how I like to think about it at least.
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Old 12 Jan 2018, 14:28 (Ref:3792295)   #8
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It all started with the Hulk going and winning Le Mans, now look what has happened since
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When I read this thread title I kind of chuckled, because I don't see it as moonlighting for these drivers. I see them as racing drivers, capable of driving a wide range of machinery, but happen to be employed in F1 at the moment. I know it may be semantics, but that is how I like to think about it at least.
Agreed. I yearn for the days when drivers earned their crust racing in all disciplines and the fact that being an F1 driver wasn't seen as some kind of bar to competing in other arenas. Good to see Mr. Alonso at least trying to bust those myths....
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As the Toro Rosso Honda thread does not seem the right place for this discussion. (Maybe a Moderator would consider moving the off thread post relating to Daytona posts from that thread to here?)

Daytona Qualifying 2018

http://results.imsa.com/

http://results.imsa.com/ (Thanks Richard)

Car 37

Robin Frijns 1:37.697
Juncadella 1:37.971
Rosenquvist 1:37.995
Stroll 1:38.423


Car 23

Fernando Alonso 1:37.515
Lando Norris 1:38.079
Phil Hanson 1:39.138

Not Mr Stroll's best day at the office.

Class from Alonso.
If we're going to be overly analytical, then you have to be sure you know what you're analysing.

So firstly, this wasn't Daytona 24 Hour qualifying - it was Roar Before the 24 Qualifying, which is to decide garage slots and encourage teams to stick around on the final day for fans. It's in absolutely no way a proper qualifying session, and is more of a test session. The only people it really effects are the bottom set of GTD teams, who will get given the old wet and windy garages.

Secondly, only 1 driver qualified each car. Senna and Alonso qualified the United Autosports cars. What you've quoted is testing times, nothing more.

Thirdly, for the European teams the Roar was more about understanding the Continental Tyres. None of the Euros have run on these tyres before, and they're absolutely completely different to the Michelins and Dunlops in Europe. On top of that, they have special compounds for Daytona, and don't like the cold weather. So testing times aren't that significant, especially for United Autosports and Jackie Chan DC Racing Jota. Laptimes are meaningless, because of traffic, conditions and setup. You're after time over a stint.

The next bit is a bit of self promotion, so the mods can decide if this is a bit much. However one of my big problems with Sportscar and Endurance Racing is it isn't very welcoming to new fans, as it's quite different to a lot of other series. So I've produced a Beginners Guide to the Daytona 24 Hours. That'll go live on the 22nd of January, a few days before the race. But if you want to more about the Roar Before the 24 Test, and what the sessions actually mean then -

http://theracingline.net/2018/imsa/w...rn-prototypes/
http://theracingline.net/2018/imsa/w...-24-learn-gts/

I do think a lot more people would enjoy sportscars if they understood it. It's just not well explained at times. And a lot don't realise they can watch it for free.

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Old 13 Jan 2018, 10:42 (Ref:3792442)   #12
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Well it had been a while since this last happened reguarly
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is one or two drivers a season doing a race with a team they're aligned with through sponsors really that regularly though? i'd like to see it more as well, but with the f1 calendar getting bigger and bigger it's a bit harder to fit something in and do it justice unless you're someone like alonso.
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