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Old 6 Jan 2021, 10:32 (Ref:4027119)   #1
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2021 Rallying

So with the new WRC season planned to kick off shortly it's time for a new thread

What do we know so far?

M-Sport
Greensmith (full season)
Suninen (part season)
Formeaux (part season)

Toyota:
Ogier (full season)
Evans (full season)
Katsuta (full season)
Rovanpera (full season)

Hyundai:
Tanak (full season)
Neuville (full season)
Breen (part season)
Sordo (part season)

Sweden has already been cancelled, other events could be lost to Covid as well.

Looks like another scrap for the title between Hyundai and Toyota - the driver lineup at M-Sport is pretty uninspiring, the loss of Lappi leaves them with a very inexperienced set of crews, I can't see them getting much in the way of results.

WRC2 looks like it's in for a good season - some interesting entries, the most obvious being Oliver Solberg - let's see if he's as good as his dad!
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Old 6 Jan 2021, 11:03 (Ref:4027126)   #2
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Last I heard is that Monte Carlo is still due to go ahead as planned, although I wouldn't bet my house on it. Hopefully we can have more rallies than last year though
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Oliver has been going well in other championships and in the few WRC rounds he's done, will be interesting to see what he can do with factory support.

I also have my doubts about Monte going ahead, and tbh I don't think it should (much as I want it to). Does look like it could be another good battle, there's 4 drivers more than capable of taking the title. In terms of teams, looks to me that M-Sport are just there to show that their cars are capable of competing so that they can flog a few more of them, and I don't really have an issue with that.
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I also have my doubts about Monte going ahead, and tbh I don't think it should (much as I want it to).
Agreed - realistically I think going ahead would be foolhardy, whilst the Monte is one of my favourite events of the year I don't think now is a good moment to be doing it.

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In terms of teams, looks to me that M-Sport are just there to show that their cars are capable of competing so that they can flog a few more of them, and I don't really have an issue with that.
Yep - they're making up the numbers (and they're still pretty small numbers tbh). They're a privateer team so I'm just greatful they're in for the full season, they can't compete financially with the works teams so they're just going to be picking up scraps really. Shame they couldn't keep Lappi though.
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Last I heard is that Monte Carlo is still due to go ahead as planned, although I wouldn't bet my house on it.
Isn't betting your house on things a Monte Carlo pastime?
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You forgot Loubet, Bert, full season with 2C Competition in a Hyundai.
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You forgot Loubet, Bert, full season with 2C Competition in a Hyundai.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/full-...21-for-loubet/
Ah - I saw he was entered for the Monte Carlo - I didn't realise he was a full season entry
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No rally GB in 2021 The worry is that once it's gone it won't be coming back.

It's replaced on the calendar by Ypres - the first time the WRC has gone to Belgium?
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Old 9 Jan 2021, 06:32 (Ref:4027790)   #9
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Motorsport UK is working on bringing it back. Fingers crossed it comes back when all this is over and the economy is hopefully more settled
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Well that's good to hear; it has to be said they were asleep at the wheel. 20 years in sports sponsorship is very good; and sooner or later the deal was going to end. Every time they re-signed a deal with Wales, it just meant it was going to be harder to get new backers.
Unfortunately, also in the last 20 years, the media exposure & general interest in the sport has fallen of a cliff.

Imagine the British GP was left off the F1 calendar - there'd be outrage and campaigns to save it. Rallying has fallen so much in the last 10-20 years that nobody seems that bothered - a shrug of the shoulders.

Let's be honest, RallyGB is now just another gravel event, that fits the WRC template; 2 and a bit days of action. It's a long time since it was an iconic event, despite them calling it the 'Rally of Legends'.
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Would have been fun to see it in Northern Ireland as planned this year
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I wouldn't mind seeing a WRC round in Ulster; but not RallyGB - it should be a mainly gravel/forest event.
I dare say they'd take it to Silverstone if the BRDC put the money up for it. And that's were RallyGB started to go wrong when they saw £££££££ flashing. Year 2000 and tickets came in, and they weren't cheap either, all for standing in a forest. Really?? And then the money from the Welsh, which kept coming - and they had no plan in case it dried up.
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The Dakar Rally had the marathon stage 7 today.

Cars:

1. FRA Stéphane Peterhansel (Mini), 26:36'
2. QAT Nasser Al-Attiyah (Toyota), + 7'
3. ESP Carlos Sainz (Mini), + 41'
4. POL Jakub Przygonski (Toyota), + 1:22'
5. ESP Nani Roma (Prodrive), + 1:59
6. RUS Vladimir Vasilyev (Mini), + 2:25

UTV / SSV

1. POL Aron Domzala (Can-Am), 32:30
2. USA Seth Quintero (Overdrive), + 8'
3. USA Austin Jones (Can-Am), + 9'
4. CHI Francisco López (Can-Am), + 25'
5. POL Michal Goczal (Can-Am), + 34'
6. RUS Sergei Kariakin (Can-Am), + 52'

Quads:

1. ARG Manuel Andújar (Yamaha), 35:46'
2. FRA Alexander Giroud (Yamaha), + 21'
3. CHI Giovanni Enrico (Yamaha), + 26'
4. CHI Italo Pedemonte (Yamaha), + 2:08'
5. USA Pablo Copetti (Yamaha), + 2:12'
6. CZE Tomas Kubiena (Yamaha), + 4:46'

Bikes:

1. CHI José Ignacio Cornejo (Honda), 28:51'
2. AUS Toby Price (KTM), + 1 second (!!!)
3. GBR Sam Sutherland (KTM), + 2'
4. FRA Xavier de Soultrait (Husqvarna), + 2'
5. ARG Kevin Benavides (Honda), + 7'
6. ESP Joan Barreda Bort (Honda), + 10'
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1. RUS Dmitry Sotnikov (Kamaz), 29:12'
2. RUS Anton Shibalov (Kamaz), + 45'
3. RUS Airat Mardeev (Kamaz), + 1:05'
4. CZE Ales Loprais (Praga), + 1:21'
5. CZE Martin Macik (Iveco), + 1:42'
6. BLR Aliaksei Vishneuski (Maz), + 1:46'
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Dakar Rally - standings after stage 9

Cars:

1. FRA Stéphane Peterhansel (Mini), 34:26'
2. QAT Nasser Al-Attiyah (Toyota), + 18'
3. ESP Carlos Sainz (Mini), + 1:02'
4. POL Jakub Przygonski (Toyota), + 2:16'
5. ESP Nani Roma (Prodrive), + 2:42
6. UAE Khalid Al Qassimi (Peugeot), + 3:01'

Quads:

1. ARG Manuel Andújar (Yamaha), 46:35'
2. FRA Alexander Giroud (Yamaha), + 19'
3. CHI Giovanni Enrico (Yamaha), + 24'
4. USA Pablo Copetti (Yamaha), + 2:57'
5. CHI Italo Pedemonte (Yamaha), + 3:04'
6. POL Kamil Wisniewski (Yamaha), + 6:10'

Bikes:

1. CHI José Ignacio Cornejo (Honda), 36:51'
5. ARG Kevin Benavides (Honda), + 11'
3. GBR Sam Sutherland (KTM), + 14'
4. USA Ricky Brabec (Honda), + 17'
5. ESP Joan Barreda Bort (Honda), + 29'
6. AUS Daniel Sanders (KTM), + 38'

Trucks:

1. RUS Dmitry Sotnikov (Kamaz), 37:42'
2. RUS Anton Shibalov (Kamaz), + 45'
3. RUS Airat Mardeev (Kamaz), + 1:13'
4. CZE Ales Loprais (Praga), + 1:30'
5. CZE Martin Macik (Iveco), + 1:49'
6. BLR Aliaksei Vishneuski (Maz), + 2:14'
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Dakar Rally - standings after stage 9

Cars:

1. FRA Stéphane Peterhansel (Mini), 34:26'
2. QAT Nasser Al-Attiyah (Toyota), + 18'
3. ESP Carlos Sainz (Mini), + 1:02'
4. POL Jakub Przygonski (Toyota), + 2:16'
5. ESP Nani Roma (Prodrive), + 2:42
6. UAE Khalid Al Qassimi (Peugeot), + 3:01'
Year in, year out - Peterhansel is up there isn't he? Absolute legend
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I see that Ogier has had a big off in testing for the Monte - Ingrasisa has gone to hospital for checks. Hopefully they'll get the all clear to compete.

The conditions look like "proper" Monte conditions this year - there seems to be a fair bit of snow and ice about rather than the wet tarmac we've seen the last couple of years.
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Year in, year out - Peterhansel is up there isn't he? Absolute legend
What a competitor, just amazing. Looks like he's heading for his 14th victory. Red Bull tv has some good footage of the stages, albeit quite short but some of the background stuff is really interesting. Disaster on stage 9 for Toby Price on the KTM, the bikers are just incredible and behind the top runners even the other bikers are mystified at the pace of the leaders-respect.
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Dakar Rally - standings after stage 10

Cars:

1. FRA Stéphane Peterhansel (Mini), 37:33'
2. QAT Nasser Al-Attiyah (Toyota), + 17'
3. ESP Carlos Sainz (Mini), + 1:03'
4. POL Jakub Przygonski (Toyota), + 2:18'
5. ESP Nani Roma (Prodrive), + 2:50
6. UAE Khalid Al Qassimi (Peugeot), + 3:13'

UTV / SSV

1. CHI Francisco López (Can-Am), 45:39'
2. USA Austin Jones (Can-Am), + 10'
3. POL Aron Domzala (Can-Am), + 42'
4. POL Michal Goczal (Can-Am), + 1:01'
5. BRA Reinaldo Varela (Can-Am), + 1:24'
6. ESP José Antonio Hinojo López (Can-Am), + 2:32'

Quads:

1. ARG Manuel Andújar (Yamaha), 50:56'
2. FRA Alexander Giroud (Yamaha), + 21'
3. CHI Giovanni Enrico (Yamaha), + 27'
4. USA Pablo Copetti (Yamaha), + 2:54'
5. CHI Italo Pedemonte (Yamaha), + 3:02'
6. POL Kamil Wisniewski (Yamaha), + 6:19'

Bikes:

1. ARG Kevin Benavides (Honda), 40:20'
2. USA Ricky Brabec (Honda), + 1'
3. GBR Sam Sutherland (KTM), + 10'
4. ESP Joan Barreda Bort (Honda), + 15'
5. USA Skyler Howes (KTM), + 29'
6. AUS Daniel Sanders (KTM), + 31'

Trucks:

1. RUS Dmitry Sotnikov (Kamaz), 40:57'
2. RUS Anton Shibalov (Kamaz), + 47'
3. RUS Airat Mardeev (Kamaz), + 1:14'
4. CZE Ales Loprais (Praga), + 1:35'
5. CZE Martin Macik (Iveco), + 1:47'
6. BLR Aliaksei Vishneuski (Maz), + 2:16'
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Artic Rally in Finlan replace sweden rally :
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Nice to see an ice / snow rally in 2021 season !

Ooh, now that is going to be a proper challenge. It’s a bit later than usual, so daylight shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Can’t wait to see it
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Nice to see an ice / snow rally in 2021 season !
I love a proper snow rally. The last few years have seen rally Sweden taking place on pretty poor snow conditions - without the snow banks at the side of the stages, hopefully this event will be "full snow"
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Neuville and Gilsoul have parted ways, quite short notice but presumably something that's been on the cards for a while.
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Neuville and Gilsoul have parted ways, quite short notice but presumably something that's been on the cards for a while.
The timing is very strange - you'd have thought Neuville would have wanted to get some testing in with his new co-driver prior to the season starting.
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The Monte is up and running - it's already bitten hard with Suninen rolling and then sliding off the road on Stage 1. The stage looked wetter than I'd seen on the previews and shots from the recce - less ice/snow and more just wet. Maybe that contributed to the accident. Tanak quickest on stage 1.
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