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22 | 30.56% |
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8 | 11.11% |
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6 | 8.33% |
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1 | 1.39% |
| Something we don't know about yet. |
  
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2 | 2.78% |
| Grooved Tyres |
  
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11 | 15.28% |
| Politics |
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22 | 30.56% |
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22 Jan 2004, 10:25 (Ref:846608)
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Your most despised aspect or F1
What's your most despised driver-aid if any in current F1?
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22 Jan 2004, 10:41 (Ref:846620)
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I don't have one I think they all get a bad rap . I'd leave them all in
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22 Jan 2004, 10:42 (Ref:846622)
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Hmm, I'd be tempted to putin advanced aerodynamics too. And, for F1 generally, getting rid of fuel stops would be great.
But for this poll, it HAS to be TC, though I'm quite prepared to accet that 'something we don't know about yet', such as automatic steering or braking (!), could be even worse... |
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22 Jan 2004, 10:53 (Ref:846635)
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Pendulum braking...
Has that been done yet? |
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22 Jan 2004, 10:54 (Ref:846637)
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I would say that elements of the "show" are arguably more palatable than the electronic thought police deciding when enough oversteer is enough but that's me.
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22 Jan 2004, 10:55 (Ref:846638)
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Regarding aero, it's a bit hard to get around the downforce problems created by two cars in close company. Less sanitised circuits may help in this regard.
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22 Jan 2004, 11:36 (Ref:846677)
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Mattracer, can you please put multiple points in a single post in future - having a debate with yourself doesn't look great.
Traction control is my least favourite thing, as it removes a lot of the natural skill in racing (especially in the wet) and makes the cars look and sound much less pleasing, with less lurid oversteering slides and a whiny tinny engine noise under acceleration. |
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22 Jan 2004, 11:55 (Ref:846690)
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"Most despised aspect of F1"???
Where can I start..... In no particular order:- Traction control Aerodynamics Grooved tyres Politics Lack of overtaking Short braking distances Artificial circuits Actually, thinking about it it would probably be easier to make a list of things I DO like.... Hang on though, this may take a few minutes to come up with something..... |
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22 Jan 2004, 11:56 (Ref:846692)
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For me, semi/fully automatic transmission. I preferred the times when the driver took a hand off the wheel to change gear himself. Whilst engaging the clutch. Sometimes they even had to steer with one hand on the wheel......
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22 Jan 2004, 12:10 (Ref:846706)
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Right, here we go:
Traction Control Carbon brakes Auto/semi auto gearboxes Fly by wire throttles Grooved tyres Too much reliance on aerodynamics for grip Fuel stops Launch control Lose that lot and we might get some racing again. |
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22 Jan 2004, 12:21 (Ref:846720)
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Grooved Tyres and Mickey mouse race tracks
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22 Jan 2004, 12:50 (Ref:846752)
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Traction Control!
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22 Jan 2004, 13:01 (Ref:846764)
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Launch Control, once starting the race was an art which to a big extent has been taken away from the drivers.
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22 Jan 2004, 13:07 (Ref:846770)
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I would say grooved tyres and too much aerodynamics. Not enough mechanical grip. I don't see anything wrong with traction control at all.
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22 Jan 2004, 13:35 (Ref:846800)
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dump: grooved tires
traction control launch control bring back slicks and more mechanical grip.... |
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22 Jan 2004, 13:39 (Ref:846805)
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I find it hard to understand why some people follow F1 at all! If you hate so much about it why bother? I love it all - the pinacle of motor racing, with plenty to get interested in and excited about if you open your eyes.
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22 Jan 2004, 13:44 (Ref:846810)
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22 Jan 2004, 14:07 (Ref:846844)
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I just get fed up with the constant bleating abot technology. If a fraction of this negative effort were channelled into seeing the positive side (there IS overtaking, the cars ARE hard to drive) then a lot more people might enjoy it. If all folk want is F1 from whatever they think was the glory days then they are going to be disappointed - this is the 21st Century.
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22 Jan 2004, 14:11 (Ref:846849)
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22 Jan 2004, 14:30 (Ref:846863)
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Of course I'm moaning about the moaning, which is probably even worse!
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22 Jan 2004, 14:36 (Ref:846867)
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As always it's far easier to knock something than to praise it but where's the fun in everyone agreeing about everything? 
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22 Jan 2004, 14:40 (Ref:846869)
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Modern Formula 1 can be improved in some ways, and it's only natural for us to want this to happen. The technology is nice, but not when it interferes with the quality of racing.
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22 Jan 2004, 16:26 (Ref:847039)
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I'd say driver injuries. Whatever the technical issues, it's all irrelivent when a driver is injured in any way.
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22 Jan 2004, 16:30 (Ref:847049)
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Grooved tyres and the break between one season and the next
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22 Jan 2004, 16:39 (Ref:847063)
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I don't actually despise any part of F1..but it would be good if regulations surrounding designs/specifications is less restrictive so we can have more exciting cars and that commercial/financial influence have a lesser effect on F1.
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