BTCC Round 7,8 and 9 Thruxton 2018 - Page 5

S griffin · 21 May 2018, 20:13 (Ref:3823831)

He looks more like a gentleman driver, no offence, but Neal is miles ahead of him. He’s not hot property anymore. I can see the retirement happening. Switching to FWD would make sod all difference IMHO

Alfisti · 21 May 2018, 21:28 (Ref:3823844)

Knockhill showed he can still do it: I was exasperated when his return this year at BMR was announced. There must be a reason he didn't roll up elsewhere... maybe his backers are now ex backers. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've not seen any Silverline or KX branding, just a Tesco Petrol logo on his shiny helmet: presumably that's not mega money?

MrAero · 22 May 2018, 07:13 (Ref:3823898)

He's taken a while but it seems Matt Simpson is finally seems to be getting to grips with staying out of trouble. After scoring a solitary point in his first season then 30 last year, he's already up to that this year after the rounds.

S griffin · 22 May 2018, 11:59 (Ref:3823937)

Matt Simpson is a very good driver, who can run at the front. It takes time to get to grips with tin tops, I think we'll continue seeing him up there

**BertMk2** · 22 May 2018, 13:15 (Ref:3823951)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Matt Simpson is a very good driver, who can run at the front. It takes time to get to grips with tin tops, I think we'll continue seeing him up there

Also Simpson didn't race on many of the circuits prior to joining the BTCC - he didn't race on the TOCA package and was racing in a BARC SE championship so spent most of his time on the Brands Indy circuit. He's got a bit more circuit knowledge under his belt now.

porsche962fan · 22 May 2018, 16:12 (Ref:3823978)

anyone know what's up with Jelley ? switching to RWD you expect he would do better but still 0 points

and James Nash another big disappointment so far, his team mate Chris Smiley put him to other shame....

Alfisti · 22 May 2018, 16:13 (Ref:3823979)

Simpson: definitely. The lad can drive consistently and fast: I think it was Rockingham last year he'd gone a lap down at the start but was then matching Flash for the entire rest of the race.

He's still coming off the worse in the argy bargy that goes on mid pack, once he's got the elbows out and asserted the "bash me and you're getting the same back with bells on" he'll do well I think. Certainly he has a good team around him with experience to draw on.

I'm thinking the same of Brett Smith too now: he looked out of his depth when subbing for Jeff last year but has definitely come on. He's quick, just needs to settle himself a little. That bad start in R1 put him on the back foot and mistakes followed as he tried a little too hard to get positions back.

Both are going to establish themselves as consistent point scorers as the season progresses.

Alfisti · 22 May 2018, 16:18 (Ref:3823982)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

anyone know what's up with Jelley ? switching to RWD you expect he would do better but still 0 points

and James Nash another big disappointment so far, his team mate Chris Smiley put him to other shame....

Jelley certainly was competitive last time in the BTCC in the 3 series. But time passes and Parker are not an established BTCC team in the way WSR are. Whether it's Jelley, the car or indeed both underperforming I don't know. Nice paint job mind 😁

Nash looks like a fish out of water at present. Give him time to adjust... personally I always thought he was too cocky by half so would take satisfaction from seeing Smiley kick his arse all year!

S griffin · 22 May 2018, 17:55 (Ref:3824009)

Jelley has always been a good driver. He should be higher though and Team Parker should too. I think they are just not having the luck atm

BobJones · 23 May 2018, 08:57 (Ref:3824147)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

anyone know what's up with Jelley ? switching to RWD you expect he would do better but still 0 points

and James Nash another big disappointment so far, his team mate Chris Smiley put him to other shame....

It's very simple. The BTCC is very competitive.

BobJones · 23 May 2018, 08:58 (Ref:3824148)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

I'm thinking the same of Brett Smith too now: he looked out of his depth when subbing for Jeff last year but has definitely come on. He's quick, just needs to settle himself a little. That bad start in R1 put him on the back foot and mistakes followed as he tried a little too hard to get positions back.

Brett Smith is a weird one. Clearly very quick, but he's also inherited his dad's inane ability to be completely random.

S griffin · 23 May 2018, 09:17 (Ref:3824153)

Brett Smith is not a top driver. He's certainly can run at the front, but is not on the level of the best drivers

billy bleach · 23 May 2018, 10:42 (Ref:3824172)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

anyone know what's up with Jelley ? switching to RWD you expect he would do better but still 0 points

and James Nash another big disappointment so far, his team mate Chris Smiley put him to other shame....

Didnt i read somewhere the Jelly car has a 2016 engine and suspension?

medius · 23 May 2018, 11:04 (Ref:3824179)

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Originally Posted by BobJones

It's very simple. The BTCC is very competitive.

This.

When there are only 15 points scoring places but 25+ drivers with the cars and skills to fill them, some talent will always be "under performing" to some.

S griffin · 23 May 2018, 11:50 (Ref:3824190)

Yes I agree. It’s good we have so many points up for grabs and it’s a shame for some that they can only get indy points at best

Matt K · 23 May 2018, 13:52 (Ref:3824208)

Yes, but it's great that Top 15 score points, imagine what would be if there was FIA points system, i.e. 25-18-15 etc, so only for top 10.
But maybe it's an idea to implement points system in which everyone scores some points, as in Supercars or IndyCar for example.

S griffin · 23 May 2018, 13:55 (Ref:3824210)

I agree, it’s better to have the top 15 score. But the FIA way works for it’s own series. I think there’s no need to change it. Indycar and Supercars work their way too

luckn002 · 23 May 2018, 14:11 (Ref:3824216)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

Yes, but it's great that Top 15 score points, imagine what would be if there was FIA points system, i.e. 25-18-15 etc, so only for top 10.
But maybe it's an idea to implement points system in which everyone scores some points, as in Supercars or IndyCar for example.

I would go up to 20th. 1 point really doesn't really make a lot of difference anyway...!

Craner Curves · 23 May 2018, 16:51 (Ref:3824242)

Interesting. Anyone got a spare fiver? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09356881

touring fan01 · 23 May 2018, 16:57 (Ref:3824244)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Interesting. Anyone got a spare fiver? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09356881

so the lodgement of their accounts is overdue. not a big deal. plenty of companies (and individuals with their tax returns) are guilty of doing that from time to time.

Alfisti · 23 May 2018, 16:59 (Ref:3824245)

888 were at this stage, i.e. strike off notice a while ago.

Mr Scott doesn't like doing his sums does he?

Wonder what assets BMR have? JPs wig? 😁

luckn002 · 23 May 2018, 17:00 (Ref:3824246)

I have a feeling the grid may look a little different after the summer break...

Alfisti · 23 May 2018, 17:27 (Ref:3824255)

Well I'm thinking the grid at Oulton might be down a car. There may or indeed may not be an estate car with a knackered engine that requires a considerable amount of time and money throwing at it.

S griffin · 23 May 2018, 18:18 (Ref:3824267)

I think we could be in for a newish grid at Oulton. I think BMR could run just 2, will have to check

GT6 · 23 May 2018, 18:38 (Ref:3824274)

However if Plato does decide to give up it will have an effect on the sponsorship of the team, so i hope he sees the season out

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