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Old 10 Jan 2010, 21:53 (Ref:2611242)   #76
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Round 5 - Thruxton - Race notes

The track looked damp to start, and while most were on slicks, the Prodrive BMWs (who'd sent a helicopter up to check out the incoming weather!) and Gravett were on grooved tyres. Guy Edwards got spun out by Mahony early on, and resumed well down. Smith led from Sytner, then the two collected each other as Smith treied to prevent Ratzenberger from following Sytner through; Smitty pitted with a puncture, and Sytner fell back as his grooved tyres went off. Rouse pulled away, while the mid-field battled away - 6th to 12th swapping places. Hodgetts fought his Supra up to 7th, then pitted with a misfire, and Edwards spun again. Ratzenberger edged out Godfrey Hall for the class B win, while 2nd to 4th was decided on the last lap as the rain came back and Mahony nosed past Newman at the chicane to take 3rd and very nearly 2nd from Karl Jones.
The Maserati had started on wets then switched ot slicks and was running quicker towards the end (1m27.83 - 3 seconds inside qually time). Dennis Leech lunched his differential which looked to have put paid to his summer.
James Shead spun to hand class C to Brindley. Dowsett started on grooved tyres, but pitted early with a puncture, Kimber-Smith blew his engine on the first lap, and Dowsett easily caught Crudgington for the class D win.

Fastest laps -
A - Newman 1m22.29s
B - Smith 1m23.55s (after pitting for slicks - precedent for Snetterton!)
C - Shead 1m30.17s
D - Dowsett - 1m30.08s (although it says GKS in Autosport, it's Dowsett's time, and GKS didn't do a lap)

For KA - Rouse's race time was 23m42.49s, his quickest lap was 1m22.49s.

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He did race a Peugeot 405 in the Italian CIVT series in the early 1990's and making a brief appearence in one of the British 405s at around the same time ..with Robb Gravett as his teammate IIRC!
Also did the 1991 season as Andy Rouse's team-mate in the Toyota Carina, before going off to race in Italy. He did make a one-off BTCC appearance at Donington in '92- curiously in his regular Peugeot Italia 405, rather than one of the British cars- Perhaps brought over to provide a performance comparison to Gravett's regular UK car?
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So how did Sean Brown get to team up with O'Brien in the Commodore?

Didn't remember that!!

I know he had been a prodsaloon regular for several years that decade, latterly in a Sierra Cosworth.

I'm guessing he fancied a taste of Group A with a view to moving up to join Gravett, Mahoney, Bristow and Smithy, his former RS Cosworth sparring partners in '89?

Mind you funny he should do that in a Holden then!!! Could he have been tempted to buy the car at some stage?

Interesting one as a lot of the other pairings had some kind of link, or had either driven with or against each other at various stages.
They have a link nowadays at least, not sure how long it goes back. Sean Brown is the UK distributor for Momo and Speedsport (Mike O'Brien's company) are stockists. Also, Sean's sons are racers and have been coached by Stefan Hodgetts, who is managed by Speedsport, as well as being backed by some other companies who Speedsport are distributors for.
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Old 10 Jan 2010, 22:27 (Ref:2611260)   #79
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Round 6 - Silverstone Jun 5th '88.

Grid -

1. Rouse (A pole 1m38.29s)
2. Gravett
3. Bristow
4. Harvey
5. Goode
6. Edwards
7. Newman
8. Hodgetts
9. Mahony
10 Jones
11 Sytner (B pole 1m41.87s)
12 Smith
13 O'Brien
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15 Hall
16 Hathaway
17 Leech
18 May
19 Lee
20 Dowsett (D pole 1m49.74s)
21 Hales
22 Shead (C pole 1m50.86s)
23 Crudgington
24 Brindley
25 Kimber-Smith

Qually notes -

So who was / should have been 14th on the grid? It could have been John Lepp, who is reported to have qualified the Maserati, but Nick May raced it.
Bristow had ecu issues, but fixed them. The Supras now had Sam Nelson engines with a better spread of power, and Hodgetts was first now Ford (8th). Other with issues were Mahony (handling), Newman (wheel bearing, no running in the quicker 2nd session), Jones (brakes again). O'Brien and Leech suffered against teh turbo cars, and Hathaway's RS500 was down on power too [did Hathaway not have a full RS500?]
The BMWs chased Sierras to get tows. Godfrey Hall had new compound Dunlops, as did Phil Dowsett with some new Dunlop radials to give improved wear. Mark Hales' CHMS car is reshelled after Donington, and now bright green [how did this car run in the Donington race if it needed a complete reshell?). Andrew Jeffrey was absent, waiting for a new engine.

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As above from KA for first start, except with Nick May in the Maserati.
Newman made a fast start, and Gravett took the lead from Rouse until the end of lap 3. Newman took 3rd from Bristow, and Goode worked his way up and took 4th one lap from the end, before having a moment at the last corner of the race and dropping to 7th. Sytner won B, Ratzenberger 2nd on the road but relegated a minute for creeping when the clutch wouldn't disengage at the start. Mike Smith battled power-loss to hold off Godfrey Hall with astute use of back-markers. Dowsett, Shead and Crudgington had a lonely race, most of their classes lost in the first start.

Fastest laps -
A - Rouse 1m38.29s
B - Sytner 1m42.75s
C - Shead - 1m51.34s
D - Dowsett - 1m50.11s

Other news from the meeting -
The M3 Evolution is due for the GP support round, with lightweight panels and a bigger rear wing.
Chris Hodgetts is roumoured to be looking at a Brooklyn-run Sierra, but at the moment it's thought to be for sharng with Andrew Bagnall in the Pacific series at the end of the year.
Rumour that TWR might appear in the BTCC with a Supra or an M3, while the Coomodore is still un-homologated.
There's an advert (for Demon Tweeks) on the back of Autosport for this week that says that Ratzenberger won at Thruxton with two cracked piston rings. Impressive! Also impressed that Dennis Leech had his Rover back out after it had looked to put him out for the summer.

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Also did the 1991 season as Andy Rouse's team-mate in the Toyota Carina, before going off to race in Italy. He did make a one-off BTCC appearance at Donington in '92- curiously in his regular Peugeot Italia 405, rather than one of the British cars- Perhaps brought over to provide a performance comparison to Gravett's regular UK car?
Thanks, I must have remembered he teamed with Rouse, and thought it was with the Mondeos. Except I had the year of awful performance in my head - Steve Robertson! Probably because they both had F3 background.
Ayles was in a Primera that year ('96).
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Standings after round 6 -

Overall (top 6) -
Sytner - 52pts; Rouse - 46; Dowsett - 38; G Hall - 28; Smith - 26; Mahony - 21.

Class A - Rouse, Mahony, Newman - 18, Harvey - 14

Class B - Sytner, G Hall, Smith, Minshaw & Ratzenberger - 12

Class C - Shead - 12, Brindley - 5, Jeffrey - 4, Kaye - 1

Class D - Dowsett, Crudgington - 20, Kimber-Smith-13, Hales - 8
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Round 6 - Silverstone Jun 5th '88.

Grid -

1. Rouse (A pole 1m38.29s)
2. Gravett
3. Bristow
4. Harvey
5. Goode
6. Edwards
7. Newman
8. Hodgetts
9. Mahony
10 Jones
11 Sytner (B pole 1m41.87s)
12 Smith
13 O'Brien
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15 Hall
16 Hathaway
17 Leech
18 May
19 Lee
20 Dowsett (D pole 1m49.74s)
21 Hales
22 Shead (C pole 1m50.86s)
23 Crudgington
24 Brindley
25 Kimber-Smith

Qually notes -

So who was / should have been 14th on the grid? It could have been John Lepp, who is reported to have qualified the Maserati, but Nick May raced it.
Roland Ratzenberger, as he is missing from the list?

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Roland Ratzenberger, as he is missing from the list?

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Yes, he is missing. There's two "13ths" listed, Ratzenberger is one, O'Brien the other.

It should read -

12 Smith (1m42.67)
13 Ratzenberger (1m42.86)
14 O'Brien (1m43.16)
15 Hall (1m43.68)

There was a couple of mis-prints / errors in the published standings (Mahony there twice, Kimber-Smith having more points than the guys leading his class) but I managed to work those out. Keeps us on our toes!!
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Round 7 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 10th July 1988 over x laps on the x.xxx miles/4.778 kms Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit. Weather believed to be mighty wet.

Support race for the British Formula 1 Grand Prix. Also on the bill:
British Formula 3 Championship
Renault Elf Turbo Europa Cup
GM Lotus Euro Challenge
Esso Metro Challenge
Alfa Romeo 164 Celebrity Race

Class A:
1./ #22 / Andy Rouse / ARE-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 28m58.41s
2./ #21 / Guy Edwards / ARE-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 29m10.59s
3./ #19 / Laurence Bristow / ARE-CAM / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 29m22.97s
? / #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson-Arquati / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 4th in class
? / #10 / Robb Gravett / ARE-ICS / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 5th in class
? / #14 / Mike Newman / Goode-Burlington / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 6th in class
? / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury-? / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth /
? / #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking-Swan / A / Holden Commodore VL /
? / #4 / Dennis Leech / Leech-Demon Tweeks / A / Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse /
Fastest lap: Andy Rouse

Class B:
? / #33 / Frank Sytner / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 1st in class
? / #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire-? / B / BMW M3 / 2nd in class
DNF / #32 / Mike Smith / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 /
DNF / #44 / Roland Ratzenberger / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / B / BMW M3
Fastest lap: Roland Ratzenberger

As of 1st July 1988 an evolution kit was homologated for the M3. Externally it featured a slightly deeper front spoiler as well as a bootlit mounted spoiler below the rear wing. I think there were some mechanical alterations as well.

Class C:
? / #48 / Andrew Jeffrey / Jeffrey?-Specialist Cars Aberdeen / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / 1st in class
? / #55 / James Shead / Maguire-? / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / 2nd in class
DNF / #50 / Andy Middlehurst / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / C / VW Golf GTI 16V /
Fastest lap: Andy Middlehurst

Was there a specific reason why John Brindley was replaced by Andy Middlehurst for the GP support race and beyond?

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM's GB / D / Toyota Corolla FXGT / 1st in class
? / #60? / David Loudon / Hodgetts / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #77 / Geoff Kimber-Smith / Kimber-Smith / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 3rd in class
? / #? / Jeremy Rossiter / unknown / D / unknown / 4th in class
DNF / #63 / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / D / Toyota Corolla GT /
DNF / #61? / John Llewellyn / MIL / D / Toyota Corolla GT /
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

A good day for Andy Rouse, but it must have been during this period that Robb Gravett thought he was given second hand material by Andy Rouse. Don't know when Mike Smith felt the same in the Prodrive camp.

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Round 6 - Silverstone Jun 5th '88.

Grid -
1. Rouse (A pole 1m38.29s)
2. Gravett
3. Bristow
4. Harvey
5. Goode
6. Edwards
7. Newman
8. Hodgetts
9. Mahony
10 Jones
11 Sytner (B pole 1m41.87s)
12 Smith
13 O'Brien
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15 Hall
16 Hathaway
17 Leech
18 May
19 Lee
20 Dowsett (D pole 1m49.74s)
21 Hales
22 Shead (C pole 1m50.86s)
23 Crudgington
24 Brindley
25 Kimber-Smith

Qually notes -

So who was / should have been 14th on the grid? It could have been John Lepp, who is reported to have qualified the Maserati, but Nick May raced it.

According to my notes, probably based on the MN report, Ratzenberger was 13th and O'Brien 14th. Interesting to see the difference of opinion over who was driving the Maserati- you'd have thought they'd be able to get something like that right....

Bristow had ecu issues, but fixed them. The Supras now had Sam Nelson engines with a better spread of power, and Hodgetts was first now Ford (8th). Other with issues were Mahony (handling), Newman (wheel bearing, no running in the quicker 2nd session), Jones (brakes again). O'Brien and Leech suffered against teh turbo cars, and Hathaway's RS500 was down on power too [did Hathaway not have a full RS500?]
The BMWs chased Sierras to get tows. Godfrey Hall had new compound Dunlops, as did Phil Dowsett with some new Dunlop radials to give improved wear. Mark Hales' CHMS car is reshelled after Donington, and now bright green [how did this car run in the Donington race if it needed a complete reshell?). Andrew Jeffrey was absent, waiting for a new engine.

Race notes

As above from KA for first start, except with Nick May in the Maserati.
Newman made a fast start, and Gravett took the lead from Rouse until the end of lap 3. Newman took 3rd from Bristow, and Goode worked his way up and took 4th one lap from the end, before having a moment at the last corner of the race and dropping to 7th. Sytner won B, Ratzenberger 2nd on the road but relegated a minute for creeping when the clutch wouldn't disengage at the start. Mike Smith battled power-loss to hold off Godfrey Hall with astute use of back-markers. Dowsett, Shead and Crudgington had a lonely race, most of their classes lost in the first start.

Fastest laps -
A - Rouse 1m38.29s
B - Sytner 1m42.75s
C - Shead - 1m51.34s
D - Dowsett - 1m50.11s

Other news from the meeting -
The M3 Evolution is due for the GP support round, with lightweight panels and a bigger rear wing.
Chris Hodgetts is roumoured to be looking at a Brooklyn-run Sierra, but at the moment it's thought to be for sharng with Andrew Bagnall in the Pacific series at the end of the year.
Rumour that TWR might appear in the BTCC with a Supra or an M3, while the Coomodore is still un-homologated.
There's an advert (for Demon Tweeks) on the back of Autosport for this week that says that Ratzenberger won at Thruxton with two cracked piston rings. Impressive! Also impressed that Dennis Leech had his Rover back out after it had looked to put him out for the summer.
MN start their qualifying report with some comment on Rouse's dominance- on pole by nearly 2 seconds here!
Theories from other drivers allegedly included

'I think they can afford to run an awful lot more boost than we can. Our budget simply doesn't let us run in that league with only one engine to rely on should we push things too far'

'I don't think our car handles as well as theirs. We're still learning about spring rates etc but they've got the time and the budget to test, test, test.It's a bit hard to compete with that'

and rather more simply 'He's a bloody good driver'
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Round 7 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 10th July 1988 over x laps on the x.xxx miles/4.778 kms Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit. Weather believed to be mighty wet.

Support race for the British Formula 1 Grand Prix. Also on the bill:
British Formula 3 Championship
Renault Elf Turbo Europa Cup
GM Lotus Euro Challenge
Esso Metro Challenge
Alfa Romeo 164 Celebrity Race

Class A:
1./ #22 / Andy Rouse / ARE-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 28m58.41s
2./ #21 / Guy Edwards / ARE-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 29m10.59s
3./ #19 / Laurence Bristow / ARE-CAM / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 29m22.97s
4 / #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson-Arquati / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 4th in class
5 / #10 / Robb Gravett / ARE-ICS / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 5th in class
6 / #14 / Mike Newman / Goode-Burlington / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 6th in class
7 / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury-? / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth /
8 / #33 / Frank Sytner / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 1st in class

? / #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking-Swan / A / Holden Commodore VL /
? / #4 / Dennis Leech / Leech-Demon Tweeks / A / Rover 3500 V8 Vitesse /
Fastest lap: Andy Rouse

Class B:
? / #33 / Frank Sytner / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 1st in class
? / #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire-? / B / BMW M3 / 2nd in class
DNF / #32 / Mike Smith / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 /
DNF / #44 / Roland Ratzenberger / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / B / BMW M3
Fastest lap: Roland Ratzenberger

As of 1st July 1988 an evolution kit was homologated for the M3. Externally it featured a slightly deeper front spoiler as well as a bootlit mounted spoiler below the rear wing. I think there were some mechanical alterations as well.

Class C:
? / #48 / Andrew Jeffrey / Jeffrey?-Specialist Cars Aberdeen / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / 1st in class
? / #55 / James Shead / Maguire-? / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / 2nd in class
DNF / #50 / Andy Middlehurst / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / C / VW Golf GTI 16V /
Fastest lap: Andy Middlehurst

Was there a specific reason why John Brindley was replaced by Andy Middlehurst for the GP support race and beyond?

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM's GB / D / Toyota Corolla FXGT / 1st in class
? / #60? / David Loudon / Hodgetts / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #77 / Geoff Kimber-Smith / Kimber-Smith / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 3rd in class
? / #? / Jeremy Rossiter / North Essex / D / Ford Escort RS1600i/ 4th in class
DNF / #63 / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / D / Toyota Corolla GT /
DNF / #61? / John Llewellyn / MIL / D / Toyota Corolla GT /
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

A good day for Andy Rouse, but it must have been during this period that Robb Gravett thought he was given second hand material by Andy Rouse. Don't know when Mike Smith felt the same in the Prodrive camp.

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I've only got the top 8 for this race, so can't fill in anything more than that.
From the notes I've got, MIL had a 3rd Supra on the entry list for Alex Moss- presumably it didn't appear?
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I've only got the top 8 for this race, so can't fill in anything more than that.
From the notes I've got, MIL had a 3rd Supra on the entry list for Alex Moss- presumably it didn't appear?
Looks like it was just Mark Hales and Vic Lee. Haven't found out why Brindley was replaced, he was mentioned in the preview as driving. I'll work through the weeks, and then post the full grid and result.

In the meantime, some adverts from May and early June that I missed before.

The ex-Letchworth Roofing Vitesse is for sale, ready to race £13k. Croydon / Orpington number - in fact it's the same as on April 21st, which identifies that car nicely. Except the price has gone up by a grand now! Who had that car last? Scarborough?
An ex-works grpA Metro turbo is advertised, but no more info than that. Tel 01-303 6644.
Peter Buxtorf has his 635 on offer.
Another Vitesse is up for sale - totally rebuilt, with latest spec engine. Phone number shows up today as Race Sport International, who still run today. Website says they ran a black Vitesse, an RS500 and a n/a Sierra in BTCC. Why hello, Mr Leech! £24,500 for car, wheels, spares and transporter.
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16th June -
BBR have a Thundersaloon special saloon spec Starion for sale. [Is this what happened to their BTCC car? Rod Birley had one in Thundersaloons in '89 or later (after the Sierra-Porsche), but I think that had an RS500 engine in by then.]

23rd June -
Hi-Tech Motorsport (Maldon based) have a Sierra shell available. Hathaway-prepared, seems to be full grpA (bodykit, brakes, suspension) but without engine. Curiously advertised for Thunder or Special Saloons, rather than BTCC.

June 30th -
Andy Rouse won his 3rd French race of the season at Charade, sharing with Alain Ferte won also partnered him to a win at Le Mans Bugatti.
John Llewellyn will take over Kevin Eaton's MIL Corolla for the rest of the season. He's renting the car from Eaton and MIL will continue to run it. Backing is from G Barnett Menswear who had slated support for the drive in the Supra which didn't come off at the start of the year.
Chris Hodgetts leaves MIL, and goes back to Brooklyn, who are building an RS500. The aim is to see out the year in the Sierra and go for the championship in '89. MIL will continue with 3 shell-backed cars for Vic Lee, Mark Hales and Alex Moss at the GP support.

7th July -
Round 7 - GP Support preview.
Prodrive are due to debut evolution M3, featuring 6-speed transmission, revised front spoiler, modified lip on the bootlid, and lighter glass and body panels.
Mike Newman's RS500 has had an engine rebuild and some mid-season development with GGR.
Usual suspects all expected for the GP Support, Hodgetts a possibility in his new RS500 (although previously this wasn't expected until late July), 3 MIL Supras, Minshaw mentioned as expected in a BMW, Brindley to run his Golf, and Dave Loudon to make his grpA debut.
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Yes, he is missing. There's two "13ths" listed, Ratzenberger is one, O'Brien the other.

It should read -

12 Smith (1m42.67)
13 Ratzenberger (1m42.86)
14 O'Brien (1m43.16)
15 Hall (1m43.68)
Yep, that matches what I have on the offical BRDC results sheets I have from this race

I have entrant data for this race, but I'm not sure where I got it from. I thought it was on the sheets, but it isn't. However, I wouldn't have put them there had they not come from what I considered a reliable source, so I believe they are right.

Round 6 full results, qualifying times, and fastest laps from the results sheets as follows (updated thanks to the info from Tim and KA):

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19m50.47s 1m38.29s1m36.78s1
210Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19m57.49s 1m38.54s1m38.59s2
314Burlington Wall Coverings LimitedMike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m04.95s 1m39.19s1m39.00s7
419Barnard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m14.53s 1m39.52s1m38.66s3
521Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m15.74s 1m39.80s1m38.83s6
65Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m18.00s 1m38.81s1m38.68s4
715Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m22.75s 1m39.88s1m38.68s5
88Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m26.69s 1m40.29s1m39.65s9
916Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A20m27.90s 1m40.61s1m40.27s10
107AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)A20m47.92s 1m42.34s1m43.16s14
1133BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B20m49.20s 1m42.75s1m41.87s11
1232BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B20m56.59s 1m43.92s1m42.67s12
1343Godfrey Hall LimitedGodfrey HallBMW M3B20m57.08s 1m43.39s1m43.68s15
144Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover VitesseA21m11.49s 1m44.05s1m44.27s17
1520Soans-Ford DealersGraham HathawayFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A21m45.12s 1m43.12s1m44.00s16
16*44Alan MinshawRoland RatzenbergerBMW M3B21m52.81s 1m43.09s1m42.86s13
1770TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD11 laps 1m50.11s1m49.74s20
1855John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC11 laps 1m51.34s1m50.86s22
1963Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota CorollaD11 laps 1m52.36s1m51.39s23
DNF2Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA4 lapsengine1m46.90s1m49.67s19
DNF1Shell-Toyota-MILChris HodgettsToyota Supra TurboA3 lapsengine1m42.84s1m39.22s8
DNS61CHIMark HalesToyota CorollaD accident - first start 1m50.45s21
DNS77AJK Motor SportGeoff Kimber-SmithToyota CorollaD accident - first start 1m53.25s25
DNS50Alan MinshawJohn BrindleyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC accident - first start 1m51.64s24
DNS24The Campari MaseratiNick MayMaserati BiturboA accident - first start 1m49.67s18
ENT17Crystal Facilities LimitedBob SandsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A   NTR 
ENT39Lionel WiffenLionel WiffenFord Escort RS TurboB   NTR 
ENT48Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC   NTR 
ENT69MIL MotorsportKevin EatonToyota CorollaD   NTR 

The results sheets list John Lepp in the practice results and grid sheet, but the race results only lists the car number as a non-starter without indicating who was in it. Asterisk indicated the 1 minute penalty for Ratzenberger's jumped start.

I have Sands, Wiffen, Jeffrey and Eaton all listed in the practice results, but have no times recorded for either session. I'm assuming that the cars were entered but did not appear and reflected that in the results (ENT), can anyone confirm?

This race only receives about 30 seconds of coverage on the review video, and completely omits any mention of the first lap accident/restart.
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Round 7 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 10th July 1988 over 15 laps on the 4.778 kms Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit. Weather believed to be mighty wet.
I can verify, the weather was indeed mightily wet

Results courtesy of Autosport:

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A28m58.41s 1m51.75s1m36.20s1
221Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m10.59s 1m52.98s1m38.13s5
319Barnard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m22.97s 1m54.34s1m39.35s8
48Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m24.09s 1m53.20s1m39.24s7
510Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m37.96s 1m53.97s1m37.80s2
614Burlington Wall Coverings LimitedMike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m55.53s 1m57.68s1m37.88s4
75Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m13.13s 1m54.93s1m39.18s6
833BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B30m18.11s 1m56.61s1m41.02s10
915Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m20.87s 1m57.79s1m37.87s3
1016Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m30.30s 1m57.19s1m39.72s9
1143Godfrey Hall LimitedGodfrey HallBMW M3B30m56.39s 1m59.18s1m41.99s11
127AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)A14 laps 2m00.05s1m42.85s15
1348Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m02.96s1m52.38s25
1455John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m03.49s1m50.27s21
1550Alan MinshawAndy MiddlehurstVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m02.57s1m50.88s22
1620Soans-Ford DealersGraham HathawayFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A14 laps 1m59.31s1m42.07s13
174Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover VitesseA14 laps 2m01.65s1m43.93s16
1870TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m02.33s1m49.60s20
1924The Campari MaseratiJohn LeppMaserati BiturboA14 laps 2m04.76s1m48.40s19
2061CHMSDave LoudounToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m02.76s1m51.47s23
2177AJK Motor SportGeoff Kimber-SmithToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m05.25s1m52.66s26
2274North Essex MotorsportJeremy RossiterFord Escort RS1600iD14 laps 2m05.65s1m54.51s28
DNF AJG Transport LimitedMark GoddardFord Escort RS1600iD6 lapselectrics2m02.36s1m53.14s27
DNF2Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA5 lapsaccident2m01.11s1m47.25s18
DNF44Alan MinshawRoland RatzenbergerBMW M3B5 lapsaccident damage1m55.32s1m42.28s14
DNF63Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota CorollaD5 lapsthrottle linkage2m05.20s1m51.59s24
DNF69MIL MotorsportJohn LlewellynToyota CorollaD4 lapsmisfire2m29.84s1m56.37s29
DNF32BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B3 lapscrashed1m55.44s1m42.07s12
DNF1Shell-Toyota-MILMark HalesToyota Supra TurboA1 lapaccident damage2m50.58s1m45.50s17

Gravett led away from Rouse in a repeat of the previous round, only to spin the ICS car entering the chicane and fell down the field. Gravett wasn't alone in doing that in the dismally wet conditions; Bristow, Ratzenberger and O'Brien would all have moments at the chicane in the early laps. Rouse would not be troubled again, whilst Edwards made his way past Mahony for 2nd, giving the Kaliber team a 1-2. Mahony and Bristow had a good little dice in the closing laps, with Bristow getting the final podium place at Stowe on the last lap.

Mike Smith went off at Copse at the start of lap 4, dramatically captured by the BBC cameras. In addition to Ratzenberger's spin at the previous corner, this left Sytner unchallenged in Class B. However, it was the Austrian who took the point for fastest lap.

Class C was decided at the Woodcote chicane on the final lap when Shead went off, leaving Jeffrey to take his first first class win.

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A good day for Andy Rouse, but it must have been during this period that Robb Gravett thought he was given second hand material by Andy Rouse. Don't know when Mike Smith felt the same in the Prodrive camp.
Probably after Snetterton, when Smith pinched the Class B fastest lap point by putting on slicks, which led to this reaction from Sytner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmTh69PLEU
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I have full Autosport results for rounds 8 and 9, so I might as well keep going.

Round 9 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 24th July 1988 over 20 laps of the 4.812km Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit.

Conditions were fine and sunny, apart from a brief rain shower in the early laps. You've got to love English weather

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m09.69s 1m33.92s1m34.05s1
26Eggenberger MotorsportSteve SoperFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m10.39s 1m34.84s1m34.40s2
321Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m38.39s 1m35.36s1m36.70s6
419Baynard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m39.79s 1m34.87s1m36.69s5
58Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m03.05s 1m36.14s1m37.32s7
616Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m23.42s 1m36.08s1m36.21s3
733BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B33m29.49s 1m37.38s1m36.60s4
832BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B33m38.54s 1m38.22s1m41.24s17
934BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Will HoyBMW M3B33m39.15s 1m37.81s1m39.60s15
107AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)A33m42.17s 1m38.30s1m38.69s14
1110Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m49.60s 1m34.78s1m38.23s13
124Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover VitesseA19 laps 1m39.13s1m40.88s16
1315Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19 laps 1m38.39s1m37.46s8
1424The Campari MaseratiNick MayMaserati BiturboA19 laps 1m41.53s1m43.93s21
1548Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC19 laps 1m43.17s1m43.87s20
1655John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC19 laps 1m42.76s1m45.34s25
1770TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD19 laps 1m43.79s1m44.40s22
182Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA19 laps 1m40.81s1m44.90s23
1974North Essex MotorsportBarbara CowellFord Escort RS1600iD18 laps 1m47.03s1m46.74s28
2069 John LewellynToyota CorollaD18 laps 1m45.72s1m51.26s29
2144 Alan MinshawBMW M3B17 laps 1m41.43s1m42.65s18
22  Martin WrayHonda Prelude 2.0iC17 laps 1m54.96s1m52.64s30
DNF43 Godfrey HallBMW M3B18 laps 1m38.20s1m37.51s9
DNF63 Tony CrudgingtonToyota CorollaD10 laps 1m45.24s1m45.78s26
DNF1Shell-Toyota-MILMark HalesToyota Supra TurboA8 laps 1m39.11s1m37.96s11
DNF20 Rob WilsonFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m37.14s1m38.03s12
DNF14 Mike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m37.24s1m53.11s31
DNF5 Tim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m38.41s1m37.90s10
DNF AJG Transport LimitedMark GoddardFord Escort RS1600iD1 lap 2m02.34s1m45.54s27
DNF  Ray McDowallFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A0 laps NTR1m43.24s19
DNS50 John MorrisVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC   1m44.99s24

I only have the results for this race, so I don't have the retirement data normally given in the race report.

The race saw a titanic, race-long battle between Soper and Rouse. The lead changed many times, even during the rain shower! Rouse appeared to have more power than the Eggenberger car, using it to his advantage several times on the run down Pilgrim's Drop. Rouse finally resolved the matter by putting the Kaliber Sierra through a Kaliber Sierra-sized gap down the straight to snatch the lead into Hawthorn's on the last lap. Great race, and great driving from two greats of British touring car racing!

Interestingly, the original broadcast didn't contain too much of their dice, whilst the review video focuses almost exclusively on it.
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Round 9 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 31st July 1988 over 20 laps of the 3.084km Snetterton circuit.

The track was very wet at the start but, with no more rain falling, the track dried throughout the race.

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A25m25.15s 1m12.65s1m08.37s1
210Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A25m37.92s 1m13.79s1m10.05s6
321Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A25m44.57s 1m14.34s1m09.42s2
414Burlington Wall Coverings LimitedMike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A26m03.77s 1m15.32s1m09.86s4
515Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A26m16.55s 1m15.56s1m10.36s8
616Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A26m25.61s 1m17.33s1m09.65s3
75Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A26m39.88s 1m17.53s1m10.03s5
88Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19 laps 1m11.21s1m10.58s9
933BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B19 laps 1m17.44s1m10.84s10
1034BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Will HoyBMW M3B19 laps 1m19.88s1m12.55s17
111Shell-Toyota-MILMark HalesToyota Supra TurboA19 laps 1m21.01s1m11.49s11
1226ECMTom BellFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19 laps 1m19.76s1m13.66s18
1343Godfrey Hall LimitedGodfrey HallBMW M3B19 laps 1m20.04s1m11.85s13
1470TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD19 laps 1m19.87s1m15.43s19
1548Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTiC19 laps 1m21.63s1m16.36s21
1655John Maguire Racing / David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTiC18 laps 1m22.68s1m15.70s20
1763Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota Corolla GTD18 laps 1m23.58s1m17.41s22
1869MIL MotorsportJohn LlewellynToyota Corolla GTD18 laps 1m26.41s1m19.28s23
1932BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B17 laps 1m12.73s1m12.40s16
DNF19Baynard Cars LimitedLawrence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19 lapsaccident1m13.34s1m10.23s7
DNF20Soans-Ford DealersGraham HathawayFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A18 laps 1m20.61s1m12.03s14
DNF2Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA5 lapsengine1m23.70sNTR25
DNF44Alan MinshawChris HodgettsBMW M3B4 lapsaccident damage1m21.12s1m12.12s15
DNF74North Essex MotorsportBarbara CowellFord Escort RS1600iD1 lapengine1m48.31s1m20.80s24
EXC7AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)D19 lapsdriving misconduct1m11.98s1m11.61s12

Action-packed race, this one! Sytner made a terrible start, causing drama on the run down to Riches. A fast-starting Mike Smith took to the grass to pass Graham Hathaway, who had swerved to pass the slow Sytner. Smith made contact with the Sierra as he merged back onto the track, firing the Mobil BMW across the his teammate's bows and into Chris Hodgetts in Minshaw's Demon Tweaks M3. Hodgetts, would retire soon afterwards due to the damage, whilst Smith - who blamed Hodgetts for hitting him - would spin down to the tail of the field when he finally reached the first corner! Sytner, meanwhile, miraculously escaped unscathed from the incident with his main rivals out of contention. Smith would pit to rectify the damage and elected to fit slick tyres. Although he would eventually be classified as the final finisher, the tyres allowed him to pinch the Class B fastest lap, leading to a very unhappy Sytner.

At the front of the field, Rouse led the first lap from Jones, Edwards, Gravett and Mahony, with Edwards taking Jones for 2nd into Riches to start lap 2. Mahony then spun the Arquati Sierra at Sear, recovering behind Sytner and Hathaway, only to spin again when he reached the other end of the Revett Straight. He would then spin a third time - once again, under braking into The Esses - before also pitting for grooved slicks. Late in the race Edwards did a Mahony, spinning off at The Esses to gift 2nd to Robb Gravett. Bristow was set to take third, before being punted off entering the Bomb Hole on the last lap by Mike O'Brien, which led to the Commodore driver being fined and excluded from the race. Rouse took what was eventually a comfortable victory, but it was Mahony on the grooved slicks that took the fastest lap.


Points of interest:
  • Hodgetts deputised for Ratzenberger in Alan Minshaw's M3 whilst the Austrian drove in the Spa 24 Hours that weekend. Hodgetts, however, had driven in the 24 Hours himself; according to the review video, he drove a total of 10 hours before heading to Norfolk for the BTCC race. Only question I have: why?
  • Bristow's accident damaged the car badly enough for it to need a new bodyshell, as confirmed in the for sale ad for the car in Autosport late in the year. I wonder where this car ended up, did it end up getting sold? Did it appear in the BTCC after 1988? This is based on the assumption that Bristow's 1989 Labatt's car was brand new.
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Yep, that matches what I have on the offical BRDC results sheets I have from this race

I have entrant data for this race, but I'm not sure where I got it from. I thought it was on the sheets, but it isn't. However, I wouldn't have put them there had they not come from what I considered a reliable source, so I believe they are right.

Round 6 full results, qualifying times, and fastest laps from the results sheets as follows (updated thanks to the info from Tim and KA):

The results sheets list John Lepp in the practice results and grid sheet, but the race results only lists the car number as a non-starter without indicating who was in it. Asterisk indicated the 1 minute penalty for Ratzenberger's jumped start.

I have Sands, Wiffen, Jeffrey and Eaton all listed in the practice results, but have no times recorded for either session. I'm assuming that the cars were entered but did not appear and reflected that in the results (ENT), can anyone confirm?

This race only receives about 30 seconds of coverage on the review video, and completely omits any mention of the first lap accident/restart.
Thanks William- Although some of them differ from how we've been describing them, the entrant details look pretty spot-on to me as being how they'd have been listed in the race programme- mainly the differences being down to cars officially entered under the name of the sponsor (ie Hathaway's Sierra entered by his sponsor 'Soans Ford Dealer' rather than his team 'Graham Hathaway Racing' etc)
I've got the programmes for the last couple of rounds at Donington and Silverstone somewhere- I must dig them out and see if there's anything useful in them
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I can verify, the weather was indeed mightily wet

Results courtesy of Autosport:

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A28m58.41s 1m51.75s1m36.20s1
221Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m10.59s 1m52.98s1m38.13s5
319Barnard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m22.97s 1m54.34s1m39.35s8
48Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m24.09s 1m53.20s1m39.24s7
510Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m37.96s 1m53.97s1m37.80s2
614Burlington Wall Coverings LimitedMike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A29m55.53s 1m57.68s1m37.88s4
75Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m13.13s 1m54.93s1m39.18s6
833BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B30m18.11s 1m56.61s1m41.02s10
915Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m20.87s 1m57.79s1m37.87s3
1016Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A30m30.30s 1m57.19s1m39.72s9
1143Godfrey Hall LimitedGodfrey HallBMW M3B30m56.39s 1m59.18s1m41.99s11
127AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)A14 laps 2m00.05s1m42.85s15
1348Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m02.96s1m52.38s25
1455John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m03.49s1m50.27s21
1550Alan MinshawAndy MiddlehurstVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC14 laps 2m02.57s1m50.88s22
1620Soans-Ford DealersGraham HathawayFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A14 laps 1m59.31s1m42.07s13
174Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover VitesseA14 laps 2m01.65s1m43.93s16
1870TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m02.33s1m49.60s20
1924The Campari MaseratiJohn LeppMaserati BiturboA14 laps 2m04.76s1m48.40s19
2061CHMSDave LoudounToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m02.76s1m51.47s23
2177AJK Motor SportGeoff Kimber-SmithToyota CorollaD14 laps 2m05.25s1m52.66s26
2274North Essex MotorsportJeremy RossiterFord Escort RS1600iD14 laps 2m05.65s1m54.51s28
DNF AJG Transport LimitedMark GoddardFord Escort RS1600iD6 lapselectrics2m02.36s1m53.14s27
DNF2Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA5 lapsaccident2m01.11s1m47.25s18
DNF44Alan MinshawRoland RatzenbergerBMW M3B5 lapsaccident damage1m55.32s1m42.28s14
DNF63Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota CorollaD5 lapsthrottle linkage2m05.20s1m51.59s24
DNF69MIL MotorsportJohn LlewellynToyota CorollaD4 lapsmisfire2m29.84s1m56.37s29
DNF32BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B3 lapscrashed1m55.44s1m42.07s12
DNF1Shell-Toyota-MILMark HalesToyota Supra TurboA1 lapaccident damage2m50.58s1m45.50s17

Note the usual British GP meeting one-offs- Jeremy Rossiter in the North Essex Motorsport RS1600i, Dave Loudoun in a CHMS Corolla, and Andy Middlehurst replacing John Brindley in the Minshaw Golf. Also the debut of Mark Goddard in Alan Gaunt's AJG Transport Escort (the ex-Chris Hodgetts/Paul Taft Brooklyn car) and notable changes at MIL Motorsport- Mark Hales replacing Chris Hodgetts in the Supra, and thereturn of their Corolla, absent for a couple of rounds- now back with John Llewellyn replacing Kevin Eaton


Probably after Snetterton, when Smith pinched the Class B fastest lap point by putting on slicks, which led to this reaction from Sytner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmTh69PLEU
One of those classic BTCC moments....

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I have full Autosport results for rounds 8 and 9, so I might as well keep going.

Round 9 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 24th July 1988 over 20 laps of the 4.812km Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit.

Conditions were fine and sunny, apart from a brief rain shower in the early laps. You've got to love English weather

PositionNumberEntrantDriverCarClassRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseFastest TimeQualifying TimeGrid Position
122Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m09.69s 1m33.92s1m34.05s1
26Eggenberger MotorsportSteve SoperFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m10.39s 1m34.84s1m34.40s2
321Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m38.39s 1m35.36s1m36.70s6
419Baynard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A32m39.79s 1m34.87s1m36.69s5
58Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m03.05s 1m36.14s1m37.32s7
616Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m23.42s 1m36.08s1m36.21s3
733BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B33m29.49s 1m37.38s1m36.60s4
832BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B33m38.54s 1m38.22s1m41.24s17
934BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Will HoyBMW M3B33m39.15s 1m37.81s1m39.60s15
107AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL (HDT)A33m42.17s 1m38.30s1m38.69s14
1110Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A33m49.60s 1m34.78s1m38.23s13
124Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover VitesseA19 laps 1m39.13s1m40.88s16
1315Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A19 laps 1m38.39s1m37.46s8
1424The Campari MaseratiNick MayMaserati BiturboA19 laps 1m41.53s1m43.93s21
1548Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC19 laps 1m43.17s1m43.87s20
1655John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC19 laps 1m42.76s1m45.34s25
1770TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota CorollaD19 laps 1m43.79s1m44.40s22
182Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA19 laps 1m40.81s1m44.90s23
1974North Essex MotorsportBarbara CowellFord Escort RS1600iD18 laps 1m47.03s1m46.74s28
2069MIL MotorsportJohn LewellynToyota CorollaD18 laps 1m45.72s1m51.26s29
2144Demon TweeksAlan MinshawBMW M3B17 laps 1m41.43s1m42.65s18
22 Hawes Group Racing?Martin WrayHonda Prelude 2.0iC17 laps 1m54.96s1m52.64s30
DNF43John Maguire Racing/Godfrey Hall LtdGodfrey HallBMW M3B18 laps 1m38.20s1m37.51s9
DNF63Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota CorollaD10 laps 1m45.24s1m45.78s26
DNF1Shell-Toyota-MILMark HalesToyota Supra TurboA8 laps 1m39.11s1m37.96s11
DNF20Graham Hathaway Racing-Soans Ford DealersRob WilsonFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m37.14s1m38.03s12
DNF14Graham Goode Racing/Burlington Wallcoverings Mike NewmanFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m37.24s1m53.11s31
DNF5Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A4 laps 1m38.41s1m37.90s10
DNF75AJG Transport LimitedMark GoddardFord Escort RS1600iD1 lap 2m02.34s1m45.54s27
DNF26ECM Vehicle Delivery LtdRay McDowallFord Sierra Cosworth RS500A0 laps NTR1m43.24s19
DNS50Demon TweeksJohn MorrisVolkswagen Golf GTi 16VC   1m44.99s24

I only have the results for this race, so I don't have the retirement data normally given in the race report.

The race saw a titanic, race-long battle between Soper and Rouse. The lead changed many times, even during the rain shower! Rouse appeared to have more power than the Eggenberger car, using it to his advantage several times on the run down Pilgrim's Drop. Rouse finally resolved the matter by putting the Kaliber Sierra through a Kaliber Sierra-sized gap down the straight to snatch the lead into Hawthorn's on the last lap. Great race, and great driving from two greats of British touring car racing!

Interestingly, the original broadcast didn't contain too much of their dice, whilst the review video focuses almost exclusively on it.
Added some of the missing entrant details. A couple of interesting changes to the entries here- Rob Wilson substituting for Graham Hathaway in the GHR/Soans Sierra, John Morris in the Demon Tweeks Golf, a one-off appearance by Martin Wray's production saloon Honda Prelude, and the debut of the ECM Vehicle Delivery RS500 of Ray MacDowell- this was an interesting one, although it was the least competitive of the Sierras The ECM car was actually a road-legal (number plates,tax disc and all) RS500 which was also seen in Thundersaloons and club racing. MacDowall and Tom Bell would alternate in the car during a handful of appearances over the rest of the season.

Hadn't realised the original TV coverage didn't show so much of the famous Rouse v Soper duel- it is probably one of the all-time classic BTCC races for that alone. As you say, the review video (haven't watched that for a while- must dig it out) largely concentrated on it- as I remember it also features quite a lot of in-car stuff of Mike Smith's efforts to get past the O'Brien Commodore

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Round 9 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 31st July 1988 over 20 laps of the 3.084km Snetterton circuit.

Action-packed race, this one! Sytner made a terrible start, causing drama on the run down to Riches. A fast-starting Mike Smith took to the grass to pass Graham Hathaway, who had swerved to pass the slow Sytner. Smith made contact with the Sierra as he merged back onto the track, firing the Mobil BMW across the his teammate's bows and into Chris Hodgetts in Minshaw's Demon Tweaks M3. Hodgetts, would retire soon afterwards due to the damage, whilst Smith - who blamed Hodgetts for hitting him - would spin down to the tail of the field when he finally reached the first corner! Sytner, meanwhile, miraculously escaped unscathed from the incident with his main rivals out of contention. Smith would pit to rectify the damage and elected to fit slick tyres. Although he would eventually be classified as the final finisher, the tyres allowed him to pinch the Class B fastest lap, leading to a very unhappy Sytner.

At the front of the field, Rouse led the first lap from Jones, Edwards, Gravett and Mahony, with Edwards taking Jones for 2nd into Riches to start lap 2. Mahony then spun the Arquati Sierra at Sear, recovering behind Sytner and Hathaway, only to spin again when he reached the other end of the Revett Straight. He would then spin a third time - once again, under braking into The Esses - before also pitting for grooved slicks. Late in the race Edwards did a Mahony, spinning off at The Esses to gift 2nd to Robb Gravett. Bristow was set to take third, before being punted off entering the Bomb Hole on the last lap by Mike O'Brien, which led to the Commodore driver being fined and excluded from the race. Rouse took what was eventually a comfortable victory, but it was Mahony on the grooved slicks that took the fastest lap.


Points of interest:
  • Hodgetts deputised for Ratzenberger in Alan Minshaw's M3 whilst the Austrian drove in the Spa 24 Hours that weekend. Hodgetts, however, had driven in the 24 Hours himself; according to the review video, he drove a total of 10 hours before heading to Norfolk for the BTCC race. Only question I have: why?
  • Bristow's accident damaged the car badly enough for it to need a new bodyshell, as confirmed in the for sale ad for the car in Autosport late in the year. I wonder where this car ended up, did it end up getting sold? Did it appear in the BTCC after 1988? This is based on the assumption that Bristow's 1989 Labatt's car was brand new.
Some interesting points on this one- as you say, an eventful race. I definitely remember Smith being fairly outspoken on the incident with Hodgetts- not sure if it was on the TV coverage or comments quoted in one of the race reports, but there might have been some suggestion made that Minshaw had brought Hodgetts in with the specific aim of interfering with Prodrive's championship bid- I thought they were doing a pretty good job of that themselves here ....

Hodgetts dropping in to race the Minshaw BMW after doing 10 hours at Spa sounds like the kind of thing you'd never be allowed to do now- it seems to have been a fairly common practice at the time where race commitments clashed- I think Chris did it a few times the previous year during his BTCC/WTCC/ETCC Corolla campaign, commuting between a number of WTCC/ETCC and BTCC races where they fell on the same weekend.

Interesting that Hodgetts was able to do it, while Ratzenberger couldn't- On the other hand, as Ratzenberger was a factory BMW driver, maybe BMW weren't too happy with the idea of being a driver short for part of the 24 hours just so Roland could drive a privateer BMW against the official BMW GB-backed entries in the BTCC....
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...[*]Hodgetts deputised for Ratzenberger in Alan Minshaw's M3 whilst the Austrian drove in the Spa 24 Hours that weekend. Hodgetts, however, had driven in the 24 Hours himself; according to the review video, he drove a total of 10 hours before heading to Norfolk for the BTCC race. Only question I have: why?[*]Bristow's accident damaged the car badly enough for it to need a new bodyshell, as confirmed in the for sale ad for the car in Autosport late in the year. I wonder where this car ended up, did it end up getting sold? Did it appear in the BTCC after 1988? This is based on the assumption that Bristow's 1989 Labatt's car was brand new.[/LIST]
The Cam Shipping RS500 went to Japan, then turned up in Singapore and finally returned to the UK and was owned by a chap called Martin Wren for a while.
It's now with a new owner (who's name escapes me) who does still occasionally race the car.
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Another interesting aspect from that Brands round, at least in qualy is Sytner's 4th place grid slot....

Do I recall correctly that qualy was in damp conditions, which may have helped him along, and was he heard to comment that he would need to be careful on the opening lap not to get in the way of some bigger cars that would start behind him?

If that is true, it's ironic when you consider what happened to his teammate at the next round in Snetterton!!!

Couple of points re Tim's excellent news snippets.

The Letchworth/Scarborough Rover. Did Tony Strawson borrow or buy the car for a Thundersaloons campaign, as we mentioned its participation in the season opener at Brands that year alongside the ex Marlboro Bill Griffin car? Gerry Marshall was out in one of them too.

Don't know if Tony was based in Surrey?

'Skid' came on a few months back talking about Capris back but we haven't heard from him about his Rover yet, i'm sure he could tell us!

Also I saw something about TWR looking at entering an M3 or Supra from mid season onwards? Strange when they were so heavily commited to the Holden project at that time, and so soon after the much hyped Volvo deal never came off in 1987?
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Round 10 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 21st August 1988 over 15 laps of the x.xxx miles/4.812 kms Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit.

Also on the bill:
FIA International Formula 3000 Championship
GM/Lotus Euroseries
RAC British Formula Ford 1600 Championship
Pirelli Autofarm Modified Porsche series

Pos.#EntrantDriverCarCat.Laps/timeNotesFLQ-timeGrid
1.22Kaliber FordAndy RouseFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:01.71 1:34.701:34.021.
2.5Terry Drury RacingTim HarveyFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:03.82 1:35.221:34.014.
3.8Arquati UK LimitedJerry MahonyFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:12.34 1:35.671:35.327.
4.14Burlington Wall Coverings LimitedMike NewmanFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:12.57 1:35.101:35.326.
5.21Kaliber FordGuy EdwardsFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:20.25 1:35.061:36.7915.
6.15Listerine-Texaco RacingGraham GoodeFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:23.74 1:35.661:35.729.
7.11Brooklyn/Mr TomkinsonChris HodgettsFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:31.27 1:35.221:35.195.
8.33BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Frank SytnerBMW M3B15/24:36.37 1:36.941:35.568.
9.36Godfrey Hall LimitedGodfrey HallBMW M3B15/24:43.27 1:37.141:35.9212.
10.20Soans-Ford DealersGraham HathawayFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA15/24:43.69 1:37.331:36.5214.
11.44Alan MinshawRoland RatzenbergerBMW M3B15/24:47.14 1:36.781:35.7611.
12.32BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Mike SmithBMW M3B15/24:47.27 1:36.621:37.2317.
13.7AutoglassMike O'BrienHolden Commodore VL/SSA15/24:56.55 1:36.541:36.4213.
14.1Shell-Toyota-MILIan FluxToyota Supra TurboA15/24:57.76 1:37.871:37.7516.
15.2Shell-Toyota-MILVic LeeToyota Supra TurboA14 laps 1:38.731:38.2118.
16.70TOM'S GB LimitedPhil DowsettToyota Corolla FX/GTD14 laps 1:42.821:42.3421.
17.48Specialist Cars Aberdeen LimitedAndrew JeffreyVW Golf GTI 16VC14 laps 1:42.551:42.5322.
18.63Tony CrudgingtonTony CrudgingtonToyota Corolla GTD14 laps 1:44.271:43.5524.
19.69MIL MotorsportJohn LlewellynToyota Corolla GTD14 laps 1:44.411:44.9527.
20.39Terry Drury RacingLionel WiffenFord Escort RS TurboB10 laps 1:47.841:47.3730.
DNF74North Essex RacingBarbara CowellFord Escort RS1600iD8 lapsMisfire1:45.541:47.7729.
DNF34BMW Finance Racing with Mobil 1Lionel AbbottBMW M3B6 lapsHandling1:37.551:40.9519.
DNF16Duckhams Racing with Karl JonesKarl JonesFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA3 lapsTurbo1:35.351:34.743.
DNF10Industrial Control Services plcRobb GravettFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA2 lapsClutch1:38.411:34.492.
DNF24The Campari MaseratiNick MayMaserati BiturboA2 lapsPiston1:41.331:44.3325.
DNF77AJK Motor SportGeoff Kimber-SmithToyota Corolla GTD0/0:00.00Overheatingno time1:44.4226.
DNS19Baynard Cars LimitedLaurence BristowFord Sierra RS500 CosworthA Differential 1:35.7310.
DNS55John Maguire Racing-David Sutton MotorsportJames SheadVW Golf GTI 16VC Differential 1:42.9223.

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Couple of things worth noting, both M3 related.

Godfrey Hall became increasingly competitive as the season wore on and Lionel Abbott, perhaps in the car due to his Mobil sponsorship in prodsaloons, was nowhere near the pace of the other privateer drivers, let alone the Prodrive cars.

I'm assuming he was picked because Will Hoy had other commitments.
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Couple of things worth noting, both M3 related.

Godfrey Hall became increasingly competitive as the season wore on and Lionel Abbott, perhaps in the car due to his Mobil sponsorship in prodsaloons, was nowhere near the pace of the other privateer drivers, let alone the Prodrive cars.

I'm assuming he was picked because Will Hoy had other commitments.
Will Hoy was busy winning his class in the Japanese Group A series:
http://www.jaf.or.jp/CGI/msports/res..._id=1988000192

I was guessing that the Mobil connection saw Abbott in the third M3 for this race.

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