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Old 21 Nov 2020, 19:31 (Ref:4018207)   #31
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Unfortunately I don't think that the comparison of ICE powered racing with horses and sail boats is the same. Both were replaced because the new form of propulsion was more efficient/more powerful, so they could continue to be used for sport & recreation. ICE are being replaced/phased out because they're dirty/bad for the environment/using up unrenewable resources etc. It think that politically there will be a lot of opposition if they are used (basically) as rich peoples playthings. As a life-long petrol head this makes me very sad, but being in my mid-sixties now, when it does finally stop, hopefully I will have plenty of memories of how it used to be (if my memory still works!).
ICEs can be run with renewable fuels as well, though.
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Old 21 Nov 2020, 19:42 (Ref:4018208)   #32
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DTM blinks first and unveils DTM Electric for 2023:


Onboard with Abt: https://youtu.be/IfOUpjpXnOc?t=324
(The test car is actually this modified Audi production touring car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXZs_XAmME )

They will feature 1000-1200hp, AWD and contest 30-min sprint races (it is unclear if the sprint races require a battery swap). Racing weight has not been mentioned that I can find (presume 2.5+ tonnes?).

Initial signs of manufacturer interest seem to be very positive!

Will Supercars follow suit?

If so, when should Supercar go electric? 2023? 2024? 2025?

A missed opportunity to not get ahead of the curve and go electric with Gen 3 in 2021?

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A friend of mine is serious about having an electric motor fitted in his S2 Elan
Here is an electric Ferrari 308: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gad0z2NuSCA

Sacrilege given the 3.0L V8 is the highlight of the whole car? I think so, but there it is... a Ferrari EV (with a lot more power than the original).

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Old 22 Nov 2020, 00:48 (Ref:4018223)   #33
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A missed opportunity to not get ahead of the curve and go electric with Gen 3 in 2021?
Come on.
The series has been dealt blow after blow and you think its a good time to rip out the V8s and replace with elecs and batteries?

Would be dead before you could say "Recharge me!"
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DTM blinks first and unveils DTM Electric for 2023:


Onboard with Abt: https://youtu.be/IfOUpjpXnOc?t=324
(The test car is actually this modified Audi production touring car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXZs_XAmME )

They will feature 1000-1200hp, AWD and contest 30-min sprint races (it is unclear if the sprint races require a battery swap). Racing weight has not been mentioned that I can find (presume 2.5+ tonnes?).

Initial signs of manufacturer interest seem to be very positive!

Will Supercars follow suit?

If so, when should Supercar go electric? 2023? 2024? 2025?

A missed opportunity to not get ahead of the curve and go electric with Gen 3 in 2021?



Here is an electric Ferrari 308: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gad0z2NuSCA

Sacrilege given the 3.0L V8 is the highlight of the whole car? I think so, but there it is... a Ferrari EV (with a lot more power than the original).
It clearly is very impressive but i dunno, i just dont care about it. It doesn't make me want to watch it. Maybe im boring.
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Not in any series I have raced in but maybe your racing experience is different to mine.
Yes it is.

Unless the cost is so low it's still worthwhile (Like in Excels), people don't like spending the same amount of money to run at the back as the guys winning do. That's why spec series don't really maintain big numbers over a period of time.

No inbuilt power advantage shifts the point of advantage somewhere else, and the costs of that will increase.
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Yes it is.

Unless the cost is so low it's still worthwhile (Like in Excels), people don't like spending the same amount of money to run at the back as the guys winning do. That's why spec series don't really maintain big numbers over a period of time.

No inbuilt power advantage shifts the point of advantage somewhere else, and the costs of that will increase.
Spec series fail because every new entrant thinks it is a fair way to go racing and they soon find out it isn't.
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