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View Poll Results: Who do you vote for?
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Lewis Hamilton
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29 |
65.91% |
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Valtteri Bottas
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0% |
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Max Verstappen
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0% |
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Alexander Albon
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0% |
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Daniel Ricciardo
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2.27% |
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Esteban Ocon
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0% |
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Lando Norris
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0% |
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Carlos Sainz
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2 |
4.55% |
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Sergio Pérez
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6.82% |
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Lance Stroll
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0% |
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Charles Leclerc
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0% |
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Sebastian Vettel
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9 |
20.45% |
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Pierre Gasly
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0% |
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Daniil Kvyat
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0% |
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Kimi Räikkönen
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0% |
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Antonio Giovinazzi
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0% |
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Romain Grosjean
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0% |
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Kevin Magnussen
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0% |
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Nicholas Latifi
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0% |
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George Russell
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15 Nov 2020, 18:56 (Ref:4017040)
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#16
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That was a drive of a champion.
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15 Nov 2020, 19:23 (Ref:4017062)
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Bubbling over...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker
Stroll did a superb job for the first half of the race - he impressed me.
Bottas had a day to not just forget, but bury forever.......
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Agreed. For half the race and more, Lance looked very good indeed. (Hence my DOHTR comment).
For Bottas, a day that ought to have him looking over his shoulder, IMO....
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166..... Counting in hope...
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15 Nov 2020, 19:24 (Ref:4017064)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker
An almost faultless drive from Lewis, to achieve a win that obviously means such a lot, still, means it would be churlish to deny it to him. But many kudos to Perez for a well balanced performance and to Seb for snatching the opportunity when it was presented, and for his graciousness in acknowledging Lewis's performance.
Stroll did a superb job for the first half of the race - he impressed me.
Bottas had a day to not just forget, but bury forever.......
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Bottas did sustain damage to his car on the opening lap after malkng contact with Ocon.
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15 Nov 2020, 19:27 (Ref:4017065)
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Bubbling over...
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Yes, I guess he ought to get a bit of leeway if that's the case.
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166..... Counting in hope...
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15 Nov 2020, 19:28 (Ref:4017066)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam43
There are several Lewis Hamilton location checks out so their vote doesn't count.
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Not now Donald.
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15 Nov 2020, 19:57 (Ref:4017075)
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Driver of the day, Hamilton? You got to be kidding me. He will win 3 more titles if he signs a again, he will CRUSH Bottas for three more years and Merc will CRUSH the opposition. That's just to be expected. Sorry, he is great, but he got the title, someone else was the driver of the day. There I said it, and you can disagree all you want.
Driver of the day for me should be someone who transcends limitations, and today that was Vettel. His head was shot, and the car was terrible. What Ferrari have done (for both cars) what their drivers did today, that impressed me.
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Drive faster and longer than the rest
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15 Nov 2020, 20:06 (Ref:4017078)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreasDavour
Driver of the day, Hamilton? You got to be kidding me. He will win 3 more titles if he signs a again, he will CRUSH Bottas for three more years and Merc will CRUSH the opposition. That's just to be expected. Sorry, he is great, but he got the title, someone else was the driver of the day. There I said it, and you can disagree all you want.
Driver of the day for me should be someone who transcends limitations, and today that was Vettel. His head was shot, and the car was terrible. What Ferrari have done (for both cars) what their drivers did today, that impressed me.
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Goodness me. Presenting a reasoned argument to back up an opinion?
We'll have to stop doing that, it's just not the done thing these days 
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When they realise you have, you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
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15 Nov 2020, 20:25 (Ref:4017082)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greem
Goodness me. Presenting a reasoned argument to back up an opinion?
We'll have to stop doing that, it's just not the done thing these days |
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Drive faster and longer than the rest
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15 Nov 2020, 21:33 (Ref:4017101)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreasDavour
Driver of the day, Hamilton? You got to be kidding me. He will win 3 more titles if he signs a again, he will CRUSH Bottas for three more years and Merc will CRUSH the opposition. That's just to be expected. Sorry, he is great, but he got the title, someone else was the driver of the day. There I said it, and you can disagree all you want.
Driver of the day for me should be someone who transcends limitations, and today that was Vettel. His head was shot, and the car was terrible. What Ferrari have done (for both cars) what their drivers did today, that impressed me.
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Yup, I'm disagreeing.
I vote for the best driver of the day, not whether they happened to win a championship or not. And that was Hamilton. Started 6th, didn't put a foot wrong in treacherous conditions, bided his time, drove a large part of the race on bald tyres, still finished 25 seconds ahead of everyone else. Class from start to finish.
Vettel drove very well indeed, but came 3rd because so many other people screwed up (in a spinny sort of way), just like LH didn't.
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15 Nov 2020, 22:02 (Ref:4017108)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesH
And that was Hamilton. Started 6th, didn't put a foot wrong in treacherous conditions ...
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Actually, he did.
He did have a few off-track moments too.
Then again, I'm not sure who didn't.
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15 Nov 2020, 22:39 (Ref:4017115)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreasDavour
Driver of the day for me should be someone who transcends limitations, and today that was Vettel. His head was shot, and the car was terrible. What Ferrari have done (for both cars) what their drivers did today, that impressed me.
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We think in similar ways re DOTGP - Vetee for mine too, he was in it all day, great to see some of his mojo back!
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Originally Posted by JamesH
Vettel drove very well indeed, but came 3rd because so many other people screwed up (in a spinny sort of way), just like LH didn't.
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Was that sort of race though wasn't it - & let's not pretend that LH didn't benefit from other's screw ups - LH drove really well, for sure but in a race like this one, plenty of assistance from other's mistakes, same as for all the finishers near the front.
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15 Nov 2020, 22:59 (Ref:4017125)
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Bubbling over...
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Yes, but all the finishers near the front were 25 seconds (at least) behind Hamilton......
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15 Nov 2020, 23:05 (Ref:4017128)
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I went with Lewis but there is a good argument for Vettel really.
Car is trash. Bottom half of the grid at best. His head is mince, he's had a terrible year. He's on his way out of a team in the most disappointing way possible. His team mate has spent the year destroying him. It should've been a disaster.
Made up, what 8 places on lap 1? At one point was in contention for the win. Survived a Ferrari fluffed pit stop. Held on in front of GOAT in the best car. Was he one of the few drivers with no off roads? Or no significant ones anyway?
I voted Lewis but Vettels race was a stonker as well.
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15 Nov 2020, 23:30 (Ref:4017136)
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I had to watch it a second time before I could decide. Any of the top 3 could be DOTR.
Vettel? A good launch at the start and a lucky run through the first corner chaos had him well placed. Drove steadily to hold a top placing. Incredibly (considering the last few years) he made no mistakes.
Perez? Like Vettel, he had a car that was working nicely in the conditions. Preserved his tyres as only he can. Lost DOTR with that late mistake that let Leclerc through. How can this guy be out of a drive for 2021??!!!
Hamilton? Sensibly cautious early on, even if he did have the odd wobble. Relentlessly moved forward as the race wore on. Preserved his tyres without sacrificing speed. Won by over 25 seconds in a car that was not happy in the conditions. DOTR!
Verstappen was over-driving and looking panicky.
Albion generally looked better but spoilt it with a couple of costly spins.
Through the first half of the race I was seriously rethinking my opinion of Stroll. But the second half confirmed my long-standing opinion.
What might Ocon have achieved if his teammate hadn’t nudged him into a spin at the first corner?
Norris was looking quick and confident in the latter part of the race.
Bottas looked to be having a poor race but the first spin was unlucky and racing with aero damage was a big handicap today.
Congrats to everyone for avoiding any big shunts.
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16 Nov 2020, 03:12 (Ref:4017154)
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Vettal with kudos to Lewis and Sergio and both the McLaren kids.
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