A Friend Remembered A Tribute to Mike Bell 2021 Calendar

**Aysedasi** · 15 Nov 2020, 19:21 (Ref:4017061)

I think the circuit 'shake up' has been of huge benefit too. A blessing in disguise....

TrapezeArtist · 15 Nov 2020, 23:04 (Ref:4017126)

9. Excellent entertainment.

sparkione · 15 Nov 2020, 23:16 (Ref:4017131)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

What a debacle. Everything that is wrong with modern F1. Hamilton wins again.

Why does this pole not have a zero?

Where the hell are you coming from? The best GP for years – LH coming from 6th on the grid, in dreadful conditions, staking his claim to be one of the greatest drivers of all time and his 7th world title. "Everything that is wrong with modern F1" – Excuse me, WTF do you want? The man's a genius, and F1 should be thankful for his presence.

Greem · 15 Nov 2020, 23:40 (Ref:4017138)

Hook
Line
Sinker

**Adam43** · 15 Nov 2020, 23:46 (Ref:4017140)

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Originally Posted by sparkione

Where the hell are you coming from? The best GP for years – LH coming from 6th on the grid, in dreadful conditions, staking his claim to be one of the greatest drivers of all time and his 7th world title. "Everything that is wrong with modern F1" – Excuse me, WTF do you want? The man's a genius, and F1 should be thankful for his presence.

You missed the bit where I used the wrong poll/pole.

Neil22 · 16 Nov 2020, 03:08 (Ref:4017152)

The great equalizer, Mother Nature, with a little help from A Turkish paving company, made this the best of the year so far. Nine from me.

**Born Racer** · 16 Nov 2020, 06:55 (Ref:4017163)

Very good and momentous, of course. An 8 from me. Could have done with a bit more overtaking, though (to be picky) - a lot of the places were quite settled. Still awesome, though.

Knowlesy · 16 Nov 2020, 08:28 (Ref:4017178)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I think the circuit 'shake up' has been of huge benefit too. A blessing in disguise....

This has honestly been my favourite season ever. The right length and almost non-stop great tracks.

Next year's calendar makes me feel physically ill. I am dreading it.

TrapezeArtist · 16 Nov 2020, 09:33 (Ref:4017187)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Could have done with a bit more overtaking,

I was finding that a bit frustrating too. But with a wet track and a drying line (and no DRS for most of the race) it was inevitable. I think most overtakes were done when the driver in front made a mistake, which fortunately was pretty often.

**Aysedasi** · 16 Nov 2020, 10:47 (Ref:4017201)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

This has honestly been my favourite season ever. The right length and almost non-stop great tracks.

Next year's calendar makes me feel physically ill. I am dreading it.

I agree. Variety is the spice of life, and this season has been spiced up in unexpected ways. OK, we have to live with/admire* Hamilton's brilliant dominance (*depends on your particular take on things), but there has actually been some great racing on different tracks, tracks that I'd happily see rewarded (as they deserve to be) with fixtures next season.

The lack of DRS for most of the race was a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

crmalcolm · 16 Nov 2020, 10:53 (Ref:4017206)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I'm glad it was a different race, it made a welcome change to a normal race.

For me - this is why it was ok to watch as a race that wasn't normal, but eventually if it was like this every week it wouldn't be as good to watch.

I know a lot of people watch F1 (in part) for the spectacle of cars being at the limit of performance and pushing the boundaries of what is possible.

In other threads (and not to rake over the arguments) people criticise races when the result is about 'managing' something. Whether that is the life of the tyres, or the fuel saving etc. Many put forward the case that they want drivers to be at 100% at all times.
The conditions this weekend meant that it was a very difficult situation to drive under, and many were having to give 100%, but in a different way.

Is short-shifting and cornering wide from the apex more fun to watch because it is done due to track conditions, as opposed to fuel-saving and tyre preservation?
As an exception to the normal I would say yes - but as a standard way to drive an F1 car then I would say no.

Greem · 16 Nov 2020, 10:58 (Ref:4017209)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

The lack of DRS for most of the race was a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

Interesting you should mention that. When DRS was enabled, it was far too 'powerful' - the cars were almost all running ultra high downforce setups, and when the rear wing opened the speed differential was just crazy.

I think it was that which caught Leclerc out on the final lap, he was too quick through the back straight through 11 into 12, so due to other cars ended up slightly out of position for 12, missed the braking point for both 12 and 13 by a country mile and lost the podium as a result.

That said - when Hamilton was on the radio during his stint following Vettel you could see how much his car was affected by the wake wash off the Ferrari. Every time he moved out from behind it, the car perceptibly slowed or looked twitchy.

Aerodynamics, huh?

**Adam43** · 16 Nov 2020, 13:53 (Ref:4017258)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I agree. Variety is the spice of life, and this season has been spiced up in unexpected ways.

Yes, yes and yes.

Whenever we get tyres that don’t last, rain, resurfaced tracks, old tracks, new tracks, double races, short weekends, etc... it is brilliants.

Admittedly if we had one of these every weekend it was cease to be interesting and fun eventually as it would be repetitive and the teams would get a handle on it all.

Change things round and at short notice to keep everyone on their toes.

So everyone, this weekend you have to run soft on the front and hard on the back.
Or we’ll tell you where the race is this weekend when we get to the airport.

Knowlesy · 16 Nov 2020, 14:16 (Ref:4017266)

Whisk the teams onto mystery planes each race weekend.

S griffin · 16 Nov 2020, 14:26 (Ref:4017267)

That would certainly stir things up a bit! Although it would be harder for fans going to events not knowing what GP is next! Seriously though if we could cut more downforce and not let technology overtake the drivers, as it has in the past, we would be fine and we wouldn’t necessarily need a crazy race to keep our interest