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Old 6 Jan 2020, 09:12 (Ref:3949997)   #76
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On a motor racing note, I’ve been re-reading a book on Sports Car Racing and spotted a very rare car- the 1968 Willment-BRM V8 which competed in the Nürburgring 1000km race. Seems the car is still about, but no longer has a roof.

Didn’t realise they built a car of their own, normally preparing cars from other manufacturers- starting with the Cortina GTs that Zef will know all about. OK, the famous Willment Cobra Coupe was a one off, but based on a Cobra....

Got me looking up Willment’s history. This archive article from Motorsport a good read.....

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...st-and-present
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Old 6 Jan 2020, 11:41 (Ref:3950007)   #77
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Mike, a couple of shots from the 2007 Revival, and one from the 2008 Spring Start of what I think is a Williment, but others will know better, no doubt.
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Mike, a couple of shots from the 2007 Revival, and one from the 2008 Spring Start of what I think is a Williment, but others will know better, no doubt.
Spot on Bob, the Willment Cobra Coupe (NOT a Shelby Daytona Coupe), as tested on the M1 by Gentleman Jack, and the early 1956 Willment Climax. The BRM V8 was mid engined, and had an extremely short International career. Think only the Nürburgring 1000km.....

Seem to remember that the Cobra Coupe was restored in recent times, and I think lives in the UK. Looks like still in period race spec.
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Wasn't a picture of the engine bay of the Willment used in the Grif' homologation form?
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Wasn't a picture of the engine bay of the Willment used in the Grif' homologation form?
Your memory is likely better than mine, Gerard, and I don’t feel the need to check....
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On a motor racing note, I’ve been re-reading a book on Sports Car Racing and spotted a very rare car- the 1968 Willment-BRM V8 which competed in the Nürburgring 1000km race. Seems the car is still about, but no longer has a roof.

Didn’t realise they built a car of their own, normally preparing cars from other manufacturers- starting with the Cortina GTs that Zef will know all about. OK, the famous Willment Cobra Coupe was a one off, but based on a Cobra....

Got me looking up Willment’s history. This archive article from Motorsport a good read.....

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...st-and-present
Another fascinating read Mike, thanks for posting the link. Although I'd hear of Jeff Uren (mostly due to his Ford engine swap conversions) and knew of his connection with Willment, I never knew he was a Cornishman!
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Another fascinating read Mike, thanks for posting the link. Although I'd hear of Jeff Uren (mostly due to his Ford engine swap conversions) and knew of his connection with Willment, I never knew he was a Cornishman!
I still lust after a Uren Savage Cortina Estate! There could be a book about Ford Dealer race and rally exploits, and indeed other manufacturer agents- Shaw and Kilburn, for instance......
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I still lust after a Uren Savage Cortina Estate! There could be a book about Ford Dealer race and rally exploits, and indeed other manufacturer agents- Shaw and Kilburn, for instance......
Of course I'm more than a little aware of Shaw & Kilburn. Back to the subject of smaller Ford V6 Estates I always used to like the V6 Corsair estates Boreham used to use complete with Minilite wheels. I would have thought that a proper production 3000E Corsair Estate would have been a seller (in the Scimitar GTE market).
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Of course I'm more than a little aware of Shaw & Kilburn. Back to the subject of smaller Ford V6 Estates I always used to like the V6 Corsair estates Boreham used to use complete with Minilite wheels. I would have thought that a proper production 3000E Corsair Estate would have been a seller (in the Scimitar GTE market).
A lot of Rally Barges were really cool! The Lotus Sunbeam engined Avenger Estate for a start. V6 trannies, V8 Sherpas......

Yes, a 3000E Corsair would have been nice- the 2000E was spoilt by the engine- rest was OK!
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Didn't Crayford offer a V6 engine option on their Corsair conversions?

We had a Ford Corsair produced down under in the early 90's.... but it was just a rebadged Pintara !
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Back in the 60s, the manufacturers often used their dealers as the "fronts" for their competition teams/individuals. Vauxhall, as you say, with Shaw and Kilburn, Ford with dealers such as Dagenham Motors and Rootes' cars were fronted by Warwick Wright who had their showroom in North West London.
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Back in the 60s, the manufacturers often used their dealers as the "fronts" for their competition teams/individuals. Vauxhall, as you say, with Shaw and Kilburn, Ford with dealers such as Dagenham Motors and Rootes' cars were fronted by Warwick Wright who had their showroom in North West London.
Those were the days, Mike!

Another rarity from 1968- Chevron B12. How to spoil the looks of a B6/8...... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...o-1968.331633/
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Back in the 60s, the manufacturers often used their dealers as the "fronts" for their competition teams/individuals. Vauxhall, as you say, with Shaw and Kilburn, Ford with dealers such as Dagenham Motors and Rootes' cars were fronted by Warwick Wright who had their showroom in North West London.
I once had a temporary job with Warwick Wright's whilst 'between jobs'. Nice company, I very much enjoyed my time there & would happily have stayed. No rallying involved though...
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Didn't Crayford offer a V6 engine option on their Corsair conversions?

We had a Ford Corsair produced down under in the early 90's.... but it was just a rebadged Pintara !
Can’t remember a V6 Crawford Corsair. Here’s another good period piece from Motorsport Mag archives on Ford V6 engine applications....

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...-v6-miscellany
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Can’t remember a V6 Crawford Corsair. Here’s another good period piece from Motorsport Mag archives on Ford V6 engine applications....

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...-v6-miscellany
Re the Crawford V6 Corsair it must have been a fantasy / my imagination running wild....

Edit: Or maybe not
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42220226@N07/34477326494

V6 Corsair by Crayford for sale :https://www.greatbritishclassiccars....ible-for-sale/
Above car verified by the secretary of the Crayford owners club as being genuine and originally registered in 1967.

Also Haynes manuals refer to the V6 Crayford Corsair
https://haynes.com/en-gb/tips-tutori...y-ford-corsair

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Re the Crawford V6 Corsair it must have been a fantasy / my imagination running wild....

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V6 Corsair by Crayford for sale : https://www.greatbritishclassiccars....ible-for-sale/
Interesting find. The body kit does the car no favours! Sounds like that is a modern addition.....

Strange that the Crawford Convertible Car Club doesn’t mention the V6!
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Interesting find. The body kit does the car no favours! Sounds like that is a modern addition.....

Strange that the Crawford Convertible Car Club doesn’t mention the V6!
I have vague memories of a V6 Corsair conversion. The father of a friend at school, a well-known builder in Norwich, had a Corsair Convertible.

I also remember Martin Maudling's V8 Cobra-Corsair, but that was a different kettle of fish!
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Strange that the Crawford Convertible Car Club doesn’t mention the V6!
Yet the ad says it is verified as a genuine Crayford car by the same club, first registered in 1967. Strange as you say.

That pillar of dependable knowledge that is Wiki mention it was an option.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Corsair
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Of course I'm more than a little aware of Shaw & Kilburn. Back to the subject of smaller Ford V6 Estates I always used to like the V6 Corsair estates Boreham used to use complete with Minilite wheels. I would have thought that a proper production 3000E Corsair Estate would have been a seller (in the Scimitar GTE market).
My first job was at Perry's Ford Agents in Finchley.
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If you were there in 1969, then it is possible that you sold me a Metallic Jade Escort GT.
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I once had a temporary job with Warwick Wright's whilst 'between jobs'. Nice company, I very much enjoyed my time there & would happily have stayed. No rallying involved though...

I don't think that any of those dealers ever saw any competition car, except for, of course, the odd occasion that they might put one on display. For example, most of Dagenham Motors entered cars were built, prepared and maintained at Boreham.

And then came the era of the Dealer Teams, started by Vauxhall; and those cars were often projects that came out of Bill Blydenstein up in Royston.
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One of the great motorsport related things about the late 60s early 70s for me was the ‘FordSport’ functions they had dealerships. If it hadn’t been for them my first new car probably wouldn’t have been a Mexico!
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I used to enjoy those, especially turning up in my Viva & wearing a Vauxhall rally jacket!
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I used to enjoy those, especially turning up in my Viva & wearing a Vauxhall rally jacket!
Sure you weren’t the only one. A mate’s dad who was also into motorsport had a new (pre front ARB) Escort GT so we usually went in that. My anglebox or later Mini Clubman rally cars deemed not suitable.....
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