2007 Belgian Grand Prix. - Page 10

**Bononi** · 17 Sep 2007, 14:09 (Ref:2015748)

Uhn... why not a big X all over the body then ??? Really no part can hit the tub IMO...

bestfit · 17 Sep 2007, 14:33 (Ref:2015776)

Thanks

Leighton Irwin · 17 Sep 2007, 14:46 (Ref:2015789)

Watched the race last night as I was on my way to Mosport when it was on live. Not a bad race but the track has been sanitized too much imo. Oh well that is racing today. Pit entrance is way too narrow. If someone spins or thumps the wall coming in the whole lane will be blocked (Don't let Danica in F1). I did feel FA pushed the envelope, to say nothing of LH, a bit much. If the track was the way it used to be, big crash.
While spectating at Mosport dreamed of what the F1 boys would do there today. Never happen though. Far too expensive to keep BE and Co. happy and just not enough room at turn 3 to put in enough run off. Public road too close to track.

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Sep 2007, 17:39 (Ref:2015967)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

They are knee pads to prevent the side of the knee from hitting each side of the tub..The pad with the X is the hard part that makes contact..

Correct, although the "X" bit confuses me.

I just thought it was the Scottish flag.

amk · 17 Sep 2007, 17:58 (Ref:2015986)

Ah,I allways tought that they use pads to prevent knees hitting eachother (pads between knees) ?

Suze · 17 Sep 2007, 19:19 (Ref:2016068)

No, you get elbow ones too and that.......well that couldn't really work!!

I thought it was just the Scottish flag too though at first.

Purist · 17 Sep 2007, 19:54 (Ref:2016115)

If the circuit was the way it used to be, Hamilton would have been out of serious contention twice. There was the first lap dust-up with Aonso, then the twitch in Pouhon near the end of the race.

And I have to say that what Alonso did should not be permissible, especially between teammates, and that's on top of the blackmail thing with Ron Dennis. I kind of hope no one takes him for next year. You'd think any potential takers (other team principals) have got to be wary of him now.

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Sep 2007, 19:58 (Ref:2016118)

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Originally Posted by Purist

If the circuit was the way it used to be, Hamilton would have been out of serious contention twice. There was the first lap dust-up with Aonso, then the twitch in Pouhon near the end of the race.

But it isn't and these guys are good enough to know it.

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Originally Posted by Purist

And I have to say that what Alonso did should not be permissible, especially between teammates, and that's on top of the blackmail thing with Ron Dennis. I kind of hope no one takes him for next year. You'd think any potential takers (other team principals) have got to be wary of him now.

Firstly they are racers.

Secondly your thoughts about the blackmial thinge etc. are irrelavent to this thread.

pottiella · 17 Sep 2007, 20:16 (Ref:2016133)

it's incredible how a week ago in monza everyone was hailing Alonso; yet now they've found out about assumed blackmail 2 races BEFORE Monza, he's the evil that trawls the earth!

Racing is racing...whatever happens outside of it is a seperate issue.

**Adam43** · 17 Sep 2007, 20:24 (Ref:2016145)

As Peter said, lets stick to the Belgium GP in this thread.

JeremySmith · 17 Sep 2007, 20:24 (Ref:2016146)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Correct, although the "X" bit confuses me.

I just thought it was the Scottish flag.

Ohh dear, yes you are right Peter...

**Bononi** · 17 Sep 2007, 20:31 (Ref:2016155)

A nice place to put a flag.

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Sep 2007, 20:31 (Ref:2016157)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Ohh dear, yes you are right Peter...

Or "Saltire" as it is known in these parts,

baclightning · 17 Sep 2007, 20:38 (Ref:2016165)

They are indeed kneepads. The feed showed Coulthard slipping them down from his knees to around his ankles after he got out of the car, presumably for comfort. And the "X" is, of course, the Scottish flag.

Purist · 17 Sep 2007, 21:13 (Ref:2016218)

Peter, I had no intent of starting a thread on the blackmail; however, those allegations in combination with Alonso's on-track actions at the start certainly do go together in speaking volumes about his apparent character. And hey, I'm not the one performing any character assassination. If Fernando has really done all this unscrupulous collaboration, was dumb enough to advertise it TO HIS BOSS, and let those e-mails come to light, he's done it to himself frankly.

Now, to the race itself. Peter, if those guys are good enough to know it, they should be good enough not to need that extra run-off that has neutered yet more portions of Spa! If these guys are really that good, they shouldn't need to be coddled and they should relish the challenge! If I'm really being cold, I'd say that F1 doesn't deserve to have countries and tracks grovelling before it! F1 should be bending over backwards to be worthy to run at Spa, Mosport, or the Nordschleife!

And if Bernie and Max were in the same room with me trying to placate me with their business sense, I'd tell them the same thing! Grand Prix racing survived and even thrived finiancially for decades as a sport first. They did it then, so these geniuses should be perfectly capable of making it do so now. I mean, if Bernie, Max, etc are truly such gifted heads of state for the sport of F1 and the FIA umbrella!

My patience for soulless and mutilated circuits is running thin. Someone, or multiple individuals, is/are responsible, and no man is beyond reproach.

Ok, rant over.

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Sep 2007, 21:19 (Ref:2016229)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purist

if those guys are good enough to know it, they should be good enough not to need that extra run-off that has neutered yet more portions of Spa! If these guys are really that good, they shouldn't need to be coddled and they should relish the challenge!

Sorry for pruning your post but you miss the point. They knew it so where's the harm?

Your point about neutering is for another topic and I'll report back if I survive my five hours of racing there in three weeks time! Again this is another topic.

NAC · 17 Sep 2007, 23:05 (Ref:2016300)

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Originally Posted by bestfit

Thought I'd put this here because it doesn't deserve a separate thread.
Does anyone know what the box like things are (with an X) at the bottom of the legs of DC's racesuit are for?

Nope, you're all wrong. My dad used something similar when I was learning to drive, it was to help reach the peddles.

OK enough of the joking. I believe I have seen TV footage in the past of DC pull them down off his knees as he hops out of the car. They do look dam big for a knee pad though

broadrun96 · 18 Sep 2007, 00:51 (Ref:2016356)

Having read a few things alluding to Shell and some Ferrari conspiracy but not really sure what happened, can anybody (without editorial please) relate just what was reported? I'm sure the Ferrari defenders and attackers will be out in force but maybe a clear answer will come through.

NAC · 18 Sep 2007, 06:31 (Ref:2016444)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Having read a few things alluding to Shell and some Ferrari conspiracy but not really sure what happened, can anybody (without editorial please) relate just what was reported? I'm sure the Ferrari defenders and attackers will be out in force but maybe a clear answer will come through.

They are all fast asleep over in that other side of the world broadrun. I'm not sure on this one either. Oddly enough there is nothing on the Shell / Ferrari web site about this.
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=ferrari-en

Just did a search and nothing came up either. Guess we will just have to wait for them still asleep to wake up

Sodemo · 18 Sep 2007, 11:29 (Ref:2016755)

Those people complaining that the pitlane is too narrow, why don't they just widen it?

OK, you can't widen it back, but you could enrcoach say one or two metres further into the track where that (needless?) tarmac run off is positioned at the new Bus Stop exit.

Mr V · 18 Sep 2007, 19:29 (Ref:2017305)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

Thought I'd put this here because it doesn't deserve a separate thread.
Does anyone know what the box like things are (with an X) at the bottom of the legs of DC's racesuit are for?

Knee pads, and i'm sure thats the Scottish "satire" (is this the right word for the Scottish cross?), same as his helmet design.

Knowlesy · 18 Sep 2007, 19:31 (Ref:2017309)

Saltire.

Satire is like "Have I Got News For You".

pottiella · 18 Sep 2007, 19:33 (Ref:2017311)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Saltire.

Satire is like "Have I Got News For You".

great show that!

yes, somehow I doubt DC would insist on wearing St Andrews cross on his knees...

Mr V · 18 Sep 2007, 19:38 (Ref:2017314)

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Originally Posted by pottiella

yes, somehow I doubt DC would insist on wearing St Andrews cross on his knees...

I bet he would, for some strange reason he's proud to be Scottish

. I have read in some F1 programmes and publications that he's listed as Scottish as opposed to British under nationality.

Where's kicking-back when you need him?

Knowlesy · 18 Sep 2007, 19:43 (Ref:2017321)

Yeah, where's Racer Scott.

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