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Old 21 Mar 2009, 07:31 (Ref:2420716)   #1
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Does anybody know anything about them and do they still exist? I know that thy were based N of York but Googlle doesn't reveal much.

I believe they may have built some Super Tourers in the early 1990s, including Vauxhall Cavaliers shells about 1991.

I have just bought a Toyota Carina built be them and the cage is awesome and would like to find out more about them and the car.

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Old 21 Mar 2009, 10:06 (Ref:2420812)   #3
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Thanks. I tried the number in the link but got the Town Council!
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I spoke to Dave Cook about 5 years ago but unfortunately lost his contacts!

That Atlas link is very old by the way Dave!!

A few members know him I think, and i've also been hoping we might tempt him on to help us out with the CC and Capri threads, but no joy yet!!

Andy someone will provide further help with how to get hold of him for you i'm sure.

In the meantime you might want to check out these threads for some background info about Dave Cook/DCRS/CC Developments activities:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112579

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79287

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Old 22 Mar 2009, 08:09 (Ref:2421834)   #5
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Chunterer, many thanks. It would be great if Dave Cook would let us fill in the details on some of the cars he has built. Mine, albeit 16 years old, is still in excellent condition and a fine testament to the original build workmanship; its almost too nice to race!
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DCRS did quite a bit of touring car work for Vauxhall, including building and running the original BTCC Astra GTE's in 1989, and the early Cavaliers up to RML taking over the programme in 1994 or so. After the split with Vauxhall, they did come back to the BTCC briefly in 1997 to run a BMW 318i for Scottish privateer Colin Gallie
http://www.stillphotography.co.uk/ga...thruxton_w.jpg This wasn't a DCRS-built car though- AFAIK it was sourced from Germany?

I think the Vauxhall Carlton Thundersaloon was a DCRS job as well?

I hadn't realised they'd been involved with any of the Carinas though- Which car do you have?
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I hadn't realised they'd been involved with any of the Carinas though- Which car do you have?
Its a car that I have been told was built for a team in New Zealand (!) about 1993 and word of mouth suggests that it is supposed to have been run in the World Touring Car Cup in 1994 by the Toyota Team Castrol for either Julian Bailey or Will Hoy. Difficult to prove and I cannot show that it was an early Super Tourer but some of the spare panels do have Toyota Team Castrol logos. I can't find a chassis number but the fuel tank has a label on it saying that the tank was built for DCRS.

If it was an early Super Tourer, the ST engine & gearbox were taken out at some point & the rolling chassis was downgraded to National Saloon Car Spec (15in wheels etc) for a Dave Pitcher & later, Barry Barnes. I have paperwork for this period. After the end of the National Saloon Car Cup Barry Barnes ran the car in various DMN/ SEMSEC/ BARC-SEC events.

Whatever it was built as, its clearly NOT an ST now but the shell is a very impressive piece of work for the early 90s and could have been built to the ST standard of the time.
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I think that your car was one of two built for our Schedule S Touring Car Class in the early to mid nineties. The team was owned by Bruce Miles and had Castrol support. As I recall there was a great amount of controversy on some technical aspects of the cars. The drivers were Julian Bailey and Greg Brinck from memory. Schedule S was below Super Touring in specification and was our national touring car class from the 1993 till 2002 when the NZV8 class took over this role. The cars were Castrol sponsored and a number of other Corona's (as the Carina was known here) were built by private entrants. From looking at other notes I have it would appear they may have appeared here in 1995 so maybe your car is not one as described above. We also saw Corona Super Tourers here in the early nineties for the Wellington Street Race which was a round of the FIA Asia Pacific Touring Car series. I think I remember these being Castrol sponsored.

Here are a few links of pictures of similar cars racing later on

http://www.nztouringcars.co.nz/Photo...e10110111.html
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I think that your car was one of two built for our Schedule S Touring Car Class in the early to mid nineties. The team was owned by Bruce Miles and had Castrol support. As I recall there was a great amount of controversy on some technical aspects of the cars. The drivers were Julian Bailey and Greg Brinck from memory. Schedule S was below Super Touring in specification and was our national touring car class from the 1993 till 2002 when the NZV8 class took over this role. The cars were Castrol sponsored and a number of other Corona's (as the Carina was known here) were built by private entrants. From looking at other notes I have it would appear they may have appeared here in 1995 so maybe your car is not one as described above. We also saw Corona Super Tourers here in the early nineties for the Wellington Street Race which was a round of the FIA Asia Pacific Touring Car series. I think I remember these being Castrol sponsored.

Here are a few links of pictures of similar cars racing later on

http://www.nztouringcars.co.nz/Photo...e10110111.html
This is excellent info, many thanks, & I suspect that Schedule S is a more likely history of the car rather than it being downgraded from an ST. I would have expected Bailey and Hoy to have used their Tom's built cars in any World Cup races anyway. This one is definately a DCRS car but does have Toyota Team Castrol liveried panels amongst the spares so maybe its one of the cars featured in the gallery. If you have any more info about "Schedule S", I'd be very grateful, Thanks again, Andy
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This is excellent info, many thanks, & I suspect that Schedule S is a more likely history of the car rather than it being downgraded from an ST. I would have expected Bailey and Hoy to have used their Tom's built cars in any World Cup races anyway. This one is definately a DCRS car but does have Toyota Team Castrol liveried panels amongst the spares so maybe its one of the cars featured in the gallery. If you have any more info about "Schedule S", I'd be very grateful, Thanks again, Andy
As you said that seems like a more probable origin than an ST car used at the '94 World Cup being downgraded to a Production car for the NSCC.

Apart from the TOM'S cars run in Securicor Omega (1993) and Castol (1994) colours, the other UK-based ST Carinas were the Park Lane pair from 1993- I've got a vague feeling one, if not both of these may have ended up in Australia or NZ?
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Well I haven't found Dave Cook yet but the NZ trail from info given by NZDuck, above, led me to Google for some more specific info and I managed to get in touch with Bruce Miles (former Toyota Team Castrol owner), Greg Brinck (one of the two Toyota works drivers) and Jason Hobbes (the No1 Mechanic), all of whom replied very helpfully to my e-mail enquiries. Isn't the internet a wonderful thing? Anyway, it seems that Dave Cook supervised the build of the Toyota Carinas, along with Cambell Little (ex Stone Brothers Racing), in NZ for the NZ "Schedule S" series (similar to Group N, I think) and it also seems 99% certain that I have the ex Julian Bailey car from 1995! 4th in the series that year whilst Greg Brinck finished second in the sister car.

The shells were delivered direct from the factory so were not converted road cars and DCRS used their UK Touring Car knowledge to design and builds the shells to the best spec possible.

Bruce Miles sold the car to Dave Pitcher to run in the UK National Saoon Car Cup, hence the reason why the car is now in the UK.
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DCRS did quite a bit of touring car work for Vauxhall, including building and running the original BTCC Astra GTE's in 1989, and the early Cavaliers up to RML taking over the programme in 1994 or so. After the split with Vauxhall, they did come back to the BTCC briefly in 1997 to run a BMW 318i for Scottish privateer Colin Gallie
http://www.stillphotography.co.uk/ga...thruxton_w.jpg This wasn't a DCRS-built car though- AFAIK it was sourced from Germany?

I think the Vauxhall Carlton Thundersaloon was a DCRS job as well?

I hadn't realised they'd been involved with any of the Carinas though- Which car do you have?
DCRS obviously did some ST work on Carinas, see this link: http://www.supertouringregister.com/...ehicle/157.php
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The differences between Super Tourers and NZ Schedule S are explained in this article, written when the NZ Schedule S cars were invited to add to the grid (make up the numbers??) at Bathurst in 1998. Its clear to me that the Schedule S promoter, Tony Bunyan, was hoping that an international series could be developed around NZ Schedule S/ Euro Group N+ cars which he saw as comparable:

The following has been copied from the web: http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...148&FS=TOURING

Debut of Schedule S at Bathurst.

[/I]What are the main differences between a Super Tourer and a New Zealand Schedule S car?

When the New Zealand Schedule S Cars make their first appearance at Mt Panorama, Bathurst they are expected to be 15 - 20 seconds a lap slower than their Super Touring cousins. That is despite the cars having comparable engine capacities. Why ?

The Super Touring Class has evolved into one if the most sophisticated and technically advanced branches of Motorsport. Many of the major European Teams are subsidiaries of Formula One Companies and they bring to the Class many of Formula One's technical innovations. Consequently the cost of building and campaigning a Super Tourer is enormous and although there is little information on budgets, estimates range from five to ten million pounds sterling for factory teams in the British Touring Car Championship. Though Super Tourer regulations are strict, there are few parts of the car that can not be modified by Super Tourer Constructors to enhance performance.

New Zealand Schedule S cars on the other hand are disadvantaged by the regulations that govern them. Constructors are very limited in the number of changes they are allowed to make to improve performance. They do have one major advantage. The cost of building and campaigning them is considerably less than Super Touring and consequently competition between factory and private teams is a lot closer. It is for this reason that there is a groundswell of support for a new Touring Car Schedule based in part on New Zealand's Schedule S regulations and Europe's Schedule N Plus (a modified version of the underpowered Schedule N Class). If agreement can be reached we may be able to look forward to an exciting and truly international touring car class.

1. Engine
Super Tourer Considerable modification allowed, but limited to 8500 rpm [300 - 320 bhp?]
Schedule S Production engine with a set compression ratio 10:1 and prescribed maximum valve lift. There are few other allowances [200-220 bhp?]
2. Transmission
Super Tourer Sequential gearbox allowed. Gearbox ratios can be altered.
Schedule S Standard production gearbox with a dispensation for front wheel drive cars only to have one change of ratio.
3. Differential
Super Tourer Considerable freedom in the design and selection of differential ratios.
Schedule S Standard production with limited slip. Three ratios allowed.
4. Body
Super Tourer Aerodynamic assistance using wings and body kits allowed. Additional used of roll cage bars are allowed.
Schedule S No use of wings and although the roll cage is similar to the Super Tourer, changes from the basic design are limited.
5. Wheels
Super Tourer 18 - 19 inch
Schedule S 16 inch maximum
6. Brakes
Super Tourer Essentially free to decide on design (e.g. size, number of callipers etc)
Schedule S Restrictions on the number of callipers used [I]

Interestingly NZ subsequentley went down the Supercar V8 route and the rest of the world standardised on Super 2000 Touring Cars rather than continuing with the Super Tourers or going down the Group N+ route.
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DCRS obviously did some ST work on Carinas, see this link: http://www.supertouringregister.com/...ehicle/157.php
I'd completely forgotten about the South African Camrys! As the register says, they were originally built (and run?) by DCRS for Toyota South Africa- I think they built at least two or three of these, they originally ran in Castrol and Minolta colours


From memory, these weren't the only project DCRS did for South Africa-I think they also built at least a couple of ST Astras for Opel SA around 1993/4-ish
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I can't remember South Africa, but MSD built the Astra saloons for Ni Amorim in Portugal I'm sure. They were also the Vauxhall rally team around then, so it would make sense.

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