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Old 24 Apr 2018, 05:47 (Ref:3817112)   #1
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Dan to Ferrari?

Whispers that they are locking him in

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...e29a4fe140ac07
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Old 24 Apr 2018, 06:07 (Ref:3817114)   #2
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Whispers that they are locking him in

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...e29a4fe140ac07
My understanding of that means nothing really other than Ferrari have closed down Dan's options..... if as mentioned it is an option until June all it means is Dan cant negotiate with others outside his existing contract (with RBR). Come June Ferrari can just walk away from Dan and say we have changed our mind, here's a few euros for your trouble and good luck.
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Old 24 Apr 2018, 07:50 (Ref:3817127)   #3
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It’s gonna be interesting, Danny’s stock has risen since China. Hopefully he will continue to have a top seat in F1 wherever that is
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Old 24 Apr 2018, 10:02 (Ref:3817140)   #4
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Horner has told German magazine Auto Motor Und Sport Ricciardo has until August to sign a new contract — or the team will begin looking for his replacement.

“We do not want to wait forever. We have other good options. Our priority is to continue working with Daniel. If that does not work, we’ll pull the other options.”

“The most obvious is Carlos Sainz,” Horner said.

“He is under contract with us. And then there are a few young drivers.”
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Horner has told German magazine Auto Motor Und Sport Ricciardo has until August to sign a new contract — or the team will begin looking for his replacement.

“We do not want to wait forever. We have other good options. Our priority is to continue working with Daniel. If that does not work, we’ll pull the other options.”

“The most obvious is Carlos Sainz,” Horner said.

“He is under contract with us. And then there are a few young drivers.”
Oh really Horner? Those same young guys you had to get from Porsche and your discard pile? Your options at this point are Sainz, Sainz or some other guy named Sainz for Red Bull. They have shown zero confidence in either Hartley or Gasly in the past and couldn't even mention either by name?

Hopefully Horner realizes how screwed he is but I doubt it. He seems to have taken over for Bernie in the all is well, look at all our options department.
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Old 24 Apr 2018, 22:21 (Ref:3817254)   #6
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Sainz who’s being smashed by Huelkenberg, who the top teams rate as average??
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Old 25 Apr 2018, 04:27 (Ref:3817268)   #7
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Is it really that bad? Red Bull should try and keep Ricciardo, he’s a great driver. However I don’t think Horner is lying awake at night worried about drivers.
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Old 25 Apr 2018, 05:42 (Ref:3817271)   #8
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According to Express, Italian publication Gazzetta dello Sport is reporting Ricciardo wants a contract worth $66 million over two years with whatever team he drives for.

It is alleged in the report Ricciardo has told Ferrari and Mercedes of his salary demands, in case he decides to leave Red Bull.
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Old 25 Apr 2018, 07:26 (Ref:3817280)   #9
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If Dan goes to Merc, Horner would do well to get on the phone to Toto to grab Ocon.
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I think Danny no doubt holds the key to the driver market ATM
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Old 25 Apr 2018, 12:11 (Ref:3817312)   #11
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How can Ricciardo demand 66m million over 2 years with no F1 drivers championships to back it up?

None of the teams have any real incentive to get Ricciardo, and they know it. Merc and Ferrari have perfect driver lineups. A clear number 1 and clear number 2 driver. Merc and Ferrari hold all the cards...At worst Dan could get pigeon holed the way Alonso was pigeon holed.

At the end of the day, Dan would drive for FREE at Merc...if he knew he would get the drivers title the last 3 years in a row...
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is 33mil a year really that outrageous though? future potential is a huge bargaining chip and he is a hot property right now.

if true i would assume its a combination of base retainer plus a bonus structure worth up to 33 a year if he wins a title and if he doesnt he would still be the lesser paid driver (if current 2018 salary estimates are to be believed) on both Merc/LH and Ferrari/SV.

i would also suspect (if that wage demand is true) that bar is also being set by RB although i think their philosophy is a lower retainer with more in the way of performance bonuses.

would he drive for free...would i?

that kind of money is hard to turn down and we see top level athletes sacrifice competitive advantage all the time in order to secure a huge payday/financial security.

i dont know if Alonso falls into that category or not...actually not sure if Ferrari or Merc would even take him for free. certainly FA loves racing but i suspect he also wants to be paid what he thinks he is worth...nothing wrong with that imo.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 08:31 (Ref:3817465)   #13
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“If you’re a betting man you’d say Mercedes,” said David Brabham. “Lewis would know it would raise him, and Daniel will rise himself to another level.”

Matt Bishop concluded: “People have been hyping him for Ferrari but would Sebastian have him back? Daniel was too good for him at Red Bull in that car. Sebastian wants a Kimi [Raikkonen], or another Kimi. Somebody compliant, good, friendly, non-troublesome.

“It’s not Mercedes’ policy to have a number one and two driver, but at Ferrari, it is.”
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“If you’re a betting man you’d say Mercedes,” said David Brabham. “Lewis would know it would raise him, and Daniel will rise himself to another level.”

Matt Bishop concluded: “People have been hyping him for Ferrari but would Sebastian have him back? Daniel was too good for him at Red Bull in that car. Sebastian wants a Kimi [Raikkonen], or another Kimi. Somebody compliant, good, friendly, non-troublesome.

“It’s not Mercedes’ policy to have a number one and two driver, but at Ferrari, it is.”
How about Dan to Ferrari and Vettel to Mercedes?
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How about Dan to Ferrari and Vettel to Mercedes?
Vettel has a firm contract with Ferrari, signed last year, tying him to the Red team until end 2020.
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