early german photos

stefan · 7 Mar 2002, 16:04 (Ref:230024)

I've posted a few of my Grandfathers photos - he took them in Germany between 1934 and 1936. There's some great ones of the Avus track. They're at...

http://www.pbase.com/smarjoram/root

Incidentally, is there anything left of the Avus banked curve?

Stoffer Green · 7 Mar 2002, 16:49 (Ref:230036)

Well, the banking was there when I was last in Berlin, but that was a few years' ago now. I had just sent a post to the query about Oval Racing to say that Avus should be mentioned, so it's a nice coincidence that you should produce your grandfather's photos which look very interesting, and they are certainly not all of Avus.
I like your other photos too! Though I prefer the Revival meeting to the Festival of Speed.
Some of mine can be found on Aysedasi's website, but I am not allowed to say who the drivers are or where they were at the time, but I think that anyone who looks at these pages will have no difficulty, although Aysedasi's Le Mans followers will scratch their heads a little.

Vitesse · 7 Mar 2002, 17:22 (Ref:230058)

Stefan: I think you need to revise those dates!! The top three AVUS pictures are definitely the 1937 Avusrennen. The Maserati is Soffietti, the Auto Union is Rosemeyer and the two Mercedes are Lang (streamliner) and Seaman.

Not sure about the hillclimb pictures, but in the final batch the Auto Union appears to be Stuck in the 1934 Avusrennen. As the others appear to be taken from the same place, they are probably mostly of the Avusrennen Voiturette race, except for that odd streamliner, which, if it is 1934, just might be Siena's Maserati 8CM, for which the race number is AFAIK unknown.

The scoreboard picture is for the high jump at the 1936 Olympics!

Great stuff!! Got any more???

**Aysedasi** · 7 Mar 2002, 18:43 (Ref:230113)

Welcome Stoffer - its about time you joined in the fun.........

Leif Snellman · 7 Mar 2002, 20:26 (Ref:230199)

What a wonderful set of pictures!

"Incidentally, is there anything left of the Avus banked curve?"

When I was in Berlin some 10 years ago I visitied the place. As far as I could see there was nothing left of the Nordschleife.

By the way, the first picture in the second row, has of course nothing to do with motorsports. Its the victory ceremony for the High Jump at the Berlin Olympics, 2 August 1936.

quintin cloud · 8 Mar 2002, 06:15 (Ref:230623)

stefan there are some excellent photos

even the lemans 2001 photos are great

strad · 8 Mar 2002, 12:47 (Ref:230797)

This is Rosemeyer I believe at AVUS:

Leif Snellman · 8 Mar 2002, 12:56 (Ref:230808)

Quote:

Originally posted by strad
This is Rosemeyer I believe at AVUS:

I think it rather could be Rosemeyer at the Nürburgring Karussell, possibly at the 1937 Eifelrennen?

Ray Bell · 8 Mar 2002, 13:12 (Ref:230821)

I've also just come across some German photos from that era... they were publicity shots used by Auto Union, so I don't know if any of them are in magazines or books at all.

Included is one of the record car with the streamlining on the Autobahn, while there are also photos of motorcycles and their riders.

Vitesse · 8 Mar 2002, 13:30 (Ref:230833)

Quote:

Originally posted by Leif Snellman

I think it rather could be Rosemeyer at the Nürburgring Karussell, possibly at the 1937 Eifelrennen?

I don't think it can be anyone - or anywhere - else! Quite unusual to see a shot from that side of the Karussel though - most are from the inside of the bend.

Ray - I'd be interested to see those! Could you post them here or e-mail me?

New e-mail btw: RichardVitesse@aol.com

stefan · 8 Mar 2002, 13:35 (Ref:230836)

Thanks for all the info on the pictures - it's great to find out a bit more about them. I did know that the scoreboard wasn't a motor racing one - I just put it in as an interesting date marker. Unfortunately I haven't got any more.

I reckon the attached picture is the carousel too.

Glad you liked my other photos - I did go to the revival meeting once but found it a bit frustrating not being able to get in the paddock area - I must try and get a press pass somehow. Also I really like the sheer diversity of the cars at the Festival of Speed.

I'd like to see some of the photos Ray has..

stefan · 8 Mar 2002, 14:31 (Ref:230878)

Meanwhile I've just added some photos from the Revival meeting...

http://www.pbase.com/smarjoram/root

Stoffer Green · 8 Mar 2002, 16:46 (Ref:230937)

Great photos of the Revival Meeting, I guess you were hanging over the fencing to take some of them. You must get a pass next time!

stefan · 8 Mar 2002, 18:53 (Ref:231062)

Any idea how?

Michael M · 8 Mar 2002, 23:15 (Ref:231257)

Photo # 9 looks like Caracciola's white Alfa 8C2300 Monza, if so, it must be 1932. First impression is in fact hil climb, but I also would not exclude the Nürburgring, which in that time was rather narrow in some places, and allowing also the spectators to come very close to the track. High race numbers are irritating, they gad similar high numbers in the 50's, but have no info about prewar era. Anybody around having entry list of Eifelrennen 1932, or some photos to compare race numbers?
Still work on the others.

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