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Old 6 Sep 2008, 13:12 (Ref:2282828)   #76
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What is the chassis number of the car in the Stavelot Museum? This is the 1980 car?
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Old 7 Sep 2008, 08:43 (Ref:2283200)   #77
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Alex,

Peter's question is a good one, they might know?

Other specific ones would be:

How many different Capris did those guys buy/race? and do they have any info on the specific chassis?

Do they know in which years they bought them?

Do they know whom they sold them onto and when?

Maybe you could put those questions to them and while you're on invite them to join the forum!!!

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Alex any chance you could ask them if they still might be in contact with any of the following:
Dave Cook, (been trying to get him to register on here through various sources unsuccessfully)
Alain Peltier,
Bernard De Dryver,
Alain Semoulin,
These 3 all pedalled Belgian Capris that were likely from the same souce; I.E CC Developments....

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Old 6 Jan 2009, 12:08 (Ref:2366335)   #78
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Something cropped up in the Toyota Corolla thread posted by new member Eircamae86.

Amongst a few images of Group A Corollas is a couple of Macau Guia Group A pics. One of them which shows Volvo's leading Starions away from the start in 1985 contains a couple of Mk 3 Capris. One is obscured behind a Corolla One is clearly read and has a 3 word windscreen sun visor. The Gordon Spice Racing cars had the GSR logo displayed on the screens like this so i'm wondering if it's an ex Gordon Spice car that found it's way over there? Altough it's probably just a local guy with an old production saloon that's got an entry!!

How we can find out more about the cars that entered this race and where they came from is anyone's guess though judging by how difficult it has been to develop this thread!!

Here the post with the images - the Macau one are about half way down:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=125

Here's the one where I ask the question above:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=132

I also want to return to something Jepser said in his highlt informative post back last year on the previous page.

Peter Elgaard purchased a Group 1 Capri in 1982/3 after a test run at Zandvoort where the then current owner of the car drove him around the circuit with Peter hanging onto the roll cage!! (Amusing!!)

Jesper mentions that the livery of that car was white over red. I'm wondering if this might have been a Belga car from Gordon Spice or the Martin Brothers? That famous livery was white over red mainly (see Peter Mallett's classic saloon example!) and Zandvoort would have been seen as a convenient meeting place for anyone coming from Belgium (or even UK) to sell a car to someone coming from Denmark.

If only we could see some piccies of the car after Elgaard bought it.

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Pete Clark

Hi - brand new on 10/10ths today. I knew Peter Clark well. To answer a question earlier on, he went into flying after selling CC Automotive Developpments to Jim Tucker - 1960's and 1970's Morgan +4 racer and aeroplane designer. They co-owned the resulting company, and "Firefly Aerial Promotions" Pete was flying a Tucker designed Slingsby T-67 "Firefly" at Shuttleworth in 1996 when he crashed and died.
Peter raced in Minis and Porsches, and also with Dorset Racing at Le Mans etc. When he died, there was still BRDC stickers up in the unit in Kirkbymoorside. The last man at Autotek - as CC was renamed, who was around in the Capri days was one Mike Bilby. Last heard of with Specialist Cars of Malton. Pete shared a European touring Car Championship M3 BMW with Corner, Father and son, and helped son earn his BRDC membership. That was in AROUND 1989/90......
Autotek prepared my "Hot Hatch" XR2 in 1993 - Pete putting hands on it, and testing it, so it was PROBABLY the last Ford prepared by the old CC crew.
Jim Tucker died in 2006, sadly, BUT there is lots of old CC paperwork still with his estate. I have, up to now, been concentrating on his 1960's morgan racing, he still had his +4 race car when he died, but will go ferreting now for CC Capri info. IF this thread is still alive?

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Old 21 Jan 2009, 05:11 (Ref:2375805)   #80
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Keep this thread going.. Moved to NZ about 8 yrs ago and desperate for as much info on these CC Capri's. Raced 3 litre capri back in the UK..actually last heard Jim Mcloughan purchased it.. Black and green. I did import John Warrens old 3 litre a few years back and now looking at pictures of CC capri's it had quite a few of the factory parts on it...just hope it wasn't a genuine Car as i recently sold it on... Heaps of Group A bmw's here along with a couple of Cologne Capri's.
Isn't there an ex Gordon Spice Capri for sale in sussex at present ??
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Old 21 Jan 2009, 05:16 (Ref:2375806)   #81
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Keep this thread going.. Moved to NZ about 8 yrs ago and desperate for as much info on these CC Capri's. Raced 3 litre capri back in the UK..actually last heard Jim Mcloughan purchased it.. Black and green.
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I did import John Warrens old 3 litre a few years back and now looking at pictures of CC capri's it had quite a few of the factory parts on it...just hope it wasn't a genuine Car as i recently sold it on... Heaps of Group A bmw's here along with a couple of Cologne Capri's.
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Yep, its been converted to a Gp 2 machine but comes with the original panels. Current owner (if not sold) is David Thomas.
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A bit of Capri action I found on Flickr yesterday.... Oulton Park, early 1985

The caption says 'Rouse, Sheene and Woodman', but thinking about it, I reckon the ex-CC Capri is Brian Chatfield, who I'm pretty sure was the last person to field a Capri in the BTCC- a few appearances early in 1985 before moving on to a 635 (the ex-BS/Cheylesmore car)

I think the Capri might even have had a last BTCC outing as late as the British GP support in '86 but won't swear to that without that season's results in front of me...

From memory, wasn't there some trouble over the eligibility of the Chatfield Capri in those first couple of 1985 BTCC rounds? Certainly the fact that he seems to be holding off the Barry Sheene Supra and Rouse's XR4Ti (assuming this is a race and not practice pic!) is surprising....
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Old 21 Jan 2009, 10:01 (Ref:2376000)   #83
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The last man at Autotek - as CC was renamed, who was around in the Capri days was one Mike Bilby. Last heard of with Specialist Cars of Malton.
Jim Tucker died in 2006, sadly, BUT there is lots of old CC paperwork still with his estate. I have, up to now, been concentrating on his 1960's morgan racing, he still had his +4 race car when he died, but will go ferreting now for CC Capri info. IF this thread is still alive?
Deepy, welcome to the forum and for giving us a little bit of insight into what happened to CC Developents in the end. Yes this particular thread is very much alive and in great need of further sources and information about the Group 1 Capri 3's that raced from 1978-82 in the UK and Europe. I suspect we will have better chance of finding info from the UK than European entrants of the cars but who knows!

Maybe Mike Bilby can give us a hand but if you can find that old CC paperwork, I suspect that might give us a whole lot of further scope for developing the thread, some clues as to the original identities and chassis numbers of he cars before they ended up in club racing in many different hands!! It has been difficult tracing cars 'backwards' if you know what I mean.

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A bit of Capri action I found on Flickr yesterday.... Oulton Park, early 1985

The caption says 'Rouse, Sheene and Woodman', but thinking about it, I reckon the ex-CC Capri is Brian Chatfield, who I'm pretty sure was the last person to field a Capri in the BTCC.

From memory, wasn't there some trouble over the eligibility of the Chatfield Capri in those first couple of 1985 BTCC rounds? Certainly the fact that he seems to be holding off the Barry Sheene Supra and Rouse's XR4Ti (assuming this is a race and not practice pic!) is surprising....
Yes I'm sure you are right KA, Chatfield was the last Capri exponent in the Trimoco BTCC in 1985/6. He owned and entered the ex Woodman car (as shown in those Flick images) which has been mentioned before as restored by Ric Wood and now in hands of a private collector (was on show at NEC year before last?) and an ex Gordon Spice or Andy Rouse Gordon Spice Racing car in some of those rounds (suspected to be the car Dave Thomas is currently selling that still has the original red wings that Peter and Mark refer to).

Both of these cars, were definitely CC built cars that originally ran in the Tricentrol series.
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When did Jess buy that Peter?
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Well he was running it at Spa last September so sometime around July/August I think.
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Well he was running it at Spa last September so sometime around July/August I think.
Unfortunately I think it had the original engine in it, by the smoke screen it was leaving in its wake
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It broke the gearbox mounting and I suspected that was gearbox oil. It was fixed for the race as I recall.
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In Fact it was the original 3.4 single cam essex v6 engine built by Marc Tait, but refreshed more recently by Ric Wood, it was white smoke that was billowing out of the rear nearside exhaust which was a blown head gasket, i thought you would of known that peter, you know everything else about capri's!!
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In Fact it was the original 3.4 single cam essex v6 engine built by Marc Tait, but refreshed more recently by Ric Wood, it was white smoke that was billowing out of the rear nearside exhaust which was a blown head gasket, i thought you would of known that peter, you know everything else about capri's!!
Ah, bet you didn't know it was used by Jonathan Palmer as a race school car at Goodwood many years ago, think the race school was run by Derek Wileman and this Black capri was one of three he ran. Crikey i still have the original Number plates and MOT'S here in NZ when it was a road car many moons ago.
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In Fact it was the original 3.4 single cam essex v6 engine built by Marc Tait, but refreshed more recently by Ric Wood, it was white smoke that was billowing out of the rear nearside exhaust which was a blown head gasket, i thought you would of known that peter, you know everything else about capri's!!
*Checks name.* Thought not. My name is Peter Mallett not Jeremy Walton.

But of course you drove it in 07 didn't you?

Reason I mentioned the Gearbox cross member is that we were trying to find one for David on the Friday. I put 2&2 together but obviously came up with 5. Hey ho.

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