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Old 27 Feb 2004, 18:00 (Ref:1564322)   #1
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Chevron B34-B39

In response to popular demand by Dan R, here's a thread for later Chevron Atlantics and F2s to consolidate existing discussions.

To kick things off:
B35s

35.76.01 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Willy Lovato. 1977: possibly the car used by Andy Barton at the first G8 race at Mallory, otherwise unknown

35.76.02 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Roberto Marazzi. 1977: Trivatello for Patrese

35.76.03 1976: ROC for Jean -Pierre Jaussaud with Chrysler engine. 1977 Andre Chevalley

35.76.04 Hart: 1976 Opert for Pryce and Harald Ertl. 1977: Obermoser for Ertl

35.76.05 Hart. 1976: Opert for Juan Cochesa and Hans Binder. 1977: Opert for Rosberg and Hans Royer

35.76.06 Hart. 1976: Opert for Jose Dolhem, Rupert Keegan [Macau GP] 1977 Steve Millen. 1978 Destroyed in testing accident by new owner.

35.76.07 BMW. 1976: Hohmann Autotechnik for Manfred Schurti. 1977: Unknown

35.76.08 BMW. 1976: Gianfranco Trombetti, retained 1977 then sold to Lorenzo Niccolini

35.76.09 Chrysler: 1976: ROC for Jean-Pierre Jaussaud

35.76.10 BDX. Bob and Marj Brown for Bobby Muir; 1977: Iain McLaren, retained 1978 then sold to Bernard Hunter in July. 1979: George McMillan

35.76.11 Chrysler [unusual as Chevron didn't normally build 11] ROC for Xavier Lapeyre

35.76.12 Hart Probably Teddy Yip for Patrick Tambay in Far East. Retained 1977

35.76.14 BMW: Works for Rolf Stommelen/Hans Binder, taken to Japan for Jacques Laffite [Japanese GP] probably stayed there for Kuniomi Nagmatsu [1977] and Keiji Matsumoto [1978]

35.76.15 BMW Opert late season for Jochen Mass. 1977 maybe to Werner Ruckelshausen
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Old 27 Feb 2004, 18:37 (Ref:1564323)   #2
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Can't remember now if I disputed the fate of #6 with you on an earlier occasion, Chris. But:
In 1983 I had a session with Dave Schollum, one of the Singapore-based NZ brothers who owned the cars Millen raced at that time. My quest was to find out what had happened to the various Schollum/Millen Chevrons. He was quite clear that the B35 was then (1983) in Asia
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Old 28 Feb 2004, 00:51 (Ref:1564324)   #3
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Chris.

B35-76-05, as advised somewhere else, now with Chris Farrell in OZ.

According to Chris, sold early 1977 , unknown through to Sept. 1982.
Thence to Weylock Racing for Aurora Series F2 class Drv. Alan Tullock , BDG eng.
Feb. 1987 to Richard Simms , with a Skoda body in special saloons, BDG eng.
May 1990 , sold to Milldent Motorsport.
Dec. 1990 , sold to Chris Farrell , car restored by Ken Thorogood.
To OZ shortly after , and retained , fitted with Hart 420R.

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Old 1 Mar 2004, 20:04 (Ref:1564325)   #4
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I seem to have started this thread indirectly.
Re the Millen B35-76-06
Steve Millen confirmed it was the Macau ex Opert car. Apparently it had a heavier FG400 gearbox, putting the car about a 100lb over tha Atlantic weight limit. No other information.
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Old 2 Mar 2004, 13:22 (Ref:1564326)   #5
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Bryan, re B35-76-05, not at all aure about Chris Farrell's information. I don't recall Allan Tulloch with such a car, and by 82, Aurora F2 was long gone. Did Tulloch have a B38 F3 car at one time ISTR ?

I'd be surprised if it was under a Richard Simms Skoda Superloon. Simms did have one, I thought it was a B23 or similar 2-litre sportscar, not an F2 tub. Most such Skodas of the late 70s were built on Gp6 sportsracers, not single seaters, though I believe Pat Thomas's Esprit did have some B35 parts in it. Any thoughts Jeremy/Chris ?

Chris, on the Barton Mallory G8 race in early 77, the Marazzi car rings a very very vague bell with me, B35-76-02????? Wonder why Andy B didn't buy it, he got the Sana later that year I remember. Perhaps the B35 was a bit costly ?
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Old 2 Mar 2004, 15:43 (Ref:1564327)   #6
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Dan,

One of Simms' Skodas, I think his second, was based on Bob Marsland's B23. I also thought his first was sports-based, but I've got nothing to hand about it.

I was also confused by 1982 Aurora, but can't offer an alternative. I only remember Tulloch from British F3 in the mid80s
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Old 1 Jan 2006, 18:52 (Ref:1564337)   #7
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Time to restart this one.

I'm just getting G8 1978 ready to put up on ORC and Jeremy, who has contributed the results, has 35.76.01 as Barton's car at Mallory and Oulton in March/April 1977. Is this now certain? Chris had it as a 'possibly' at the beginning of this thread but I recall that Dan reached some conclusions on this car elsewhere.

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Old 2 Jan 2006, 11:05 (Ref:1564338)   #8
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The problem is this: 35-01 and 02 go to Trivatello. F1R notes 01 as Lovato's car and 02 as Marazzi's in 1976.
02 appears as Patrese's car early 77 according to F1R. This car destroyed in big accident at Nurburgring. [Though being ex Patrese probably now exists in at least 4 authentic versions through imaginative use of screws.]
MN Feb 77 says ex Marazzi car sold to Barton
Car destroyed Ingliston: AS 12.5.77 p. 55

Now, either F1R is wrong in assuming 01 to be Lovato's car all season in 76, having observed it at one British round [and that wouldn't be a first...] and Marazzi used it, or MN is wrong in calling the Barton car ex Marazzi and it's just a Trivatello chassis.[One of us cannot be wrong, to quote the great Leonard Cohen]

I think we could say that Barton's 77 car is 01 and Patrese's 02 and that both have effectively ceased to be by the end of May 77

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Old 2 Jan 2006, 11:18 (Ref:1564339)   #9
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I think we could say that Barton's 77 car is 01 and Patrese's 02 and that both have effectively ceased to be by the end of May 77
So nobody can ever say we were wrong because all the evidence has been destroyed

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Old 3 Jan 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1564340)   #10
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From what I recall, the Barton car was ex-Marazzi, so I suggest we go with Chris' version, ie we don't believe F1R on this matter. Isn't it good to see some interesting threads on here again !!
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Old 12 Apr 2006, 17:07 (Ref:1579558)   #11
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I met Kim Mather briefly again today, he says he's seen is old B34D/B35 up for sale. I asked whether he fancied buying it, he replied no, 'cos he knows what has befallen it over the years !! He still looks the same as in 1978 or so.
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Old 19 Apr 2006, 20:51 (Ref:1589040)   #12
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Could Kim give you any information on what his old car had been doing? I know Kenneth Brill had it in 1979 but then I lose track of it.

And what's the right designation for it? B34? B34D? B35? B35D? B39? B39D?

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Old 21 Apr 2006, 10:22 (Ref:1590618)   #13
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Allen, I'm due to see him soon so will ask. It was always called a B34D in period, I think the D was for 'development'.
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That's interesting as Jim Crawford appeared in a B34D at the end of the 1976 season. Could this be the same car?

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Old 21 Apr 2006, 12:38 (Ref:1590771)   #15
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Don' think so Allen, I don't recall anything being said about Kim's being ex-Jim C, though given Jim's factory connexions, I suppose it may have become the basis for the B39 that Villeneuve used that winter in ZA. Kim's car of course was always described as being based on the car Gilles smashed up down there. When I saw him last week, he said he'd seen his old car advertised somewhere, maybe on the web, and that there was a UK phone no. to call about it.
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