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Old 26 Jun 2006, 18:50 (Ref:1641903)   #1
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Carlton Kirby nightmare

Earlier today Carlton Kirby, the worlds worst commentator, was on both Eurosport channels and Motors at the same time!!! So I decided to watch some karting I had recorded on Sky+ and lo and behold he was commentating on that. He interrupts his usual unintelligeble babble with massively glaring errors. Just as an example, during the warm-up lap of a kart race the CoC made them go single file through a few corners. Carlton reliably informs us they will be taking the start in single file. But lo and behold two corners from the start they form up side by side as usual. Then the start gets aborted and Carlton tells us the leaders have aborted the start... umm no that would be the CoC who has done that. Then on the first racing lap a couple of karts spin across the grass and drop down the field and he tells us they may be penalised for taking a short cut...

When will the powers that be realise this man is so inept? He just does not have a clue, witters away to himself but knows nothing about what he is talking about. Today on Eurosport I would have watched the North West 200, the stunt bike riding and on Motors the Le Mans wrap up, but Carltons ineptness forced me to switch. I am watching the karting on mute now.

Please someone get rid of him - in the NW 200 he was reading from a script quite obviously and in the 125 race he told us about Robert Dunlops actions about 5 seconds before they happened and ruined the end of the race for viewers.

Even that idiot James Allen cant out mis-quote Carlton, and thus would be better.
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 21:21 (Ref:1642955)   #2
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Who did RWS last year, he was cringe worthy getting every name awfully wrong. Valles and Pagenaud were the ones he struggled with most. I just couldnt watch it.
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 21:24 (Ref:1642958)   #3
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I found Kirby bearable at Le Mans last week, for the first time in recorded history. I think it was because of his Tony Delahunty put downs though regarding the "Pescalairos".

Kirby is a bit of a clot, but he has been around years and is here to stay I suspect.
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1643005)   #4
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I found Kirby bearable at Le Mans last week, for the first time in recorded history. I think it was because of his Tony Delahunty put downs though regarding the "Pescalairos".
Wasn't that Joe Strummer's last band?
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 22:22 (Ref:1643023)   #5
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It is a mystery why Kirby gets continued employment.

I seem to recall him commentating on synchronised swimming or somesuch at the last Olympics on Eurosport too.

He sounds like a shopping channel script voiceover man let loose on motorsport commentary.
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I have some sympathy with the views expressed here, but really it is no more than a 'bash' is it? The point's been made, so I'm now closing this!
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On appeal from Ghinzani, and following some discussion with fellow mods, we have decided to reopen this thread. However, please remember this is a discussion forum and the rules are that this must be constructive criticism. We don't allow driver bashing, so why should we allow it for commentators, or anyone else, for that matter? If you really want to influence matters (and don't forget livelihoods are potentially at stake here, if you do) why not address your concerns where they may have the most impact; with the TV stations themselves:-

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Just to say I very much enjoyed Carltons commentary at Le Mans this year - I put it on mute everytime he was doing a stint!! Shame he ruined the end of the race though (baby daughter had the remote so I couldnt mute it) - 1 gem that did shine through was him saying Kristensen was breaking his own record - well yes his, and a certain Mr Ickx!
It seems Eurosport are using him more and more - thank goodness ITV4 is getting a decent spread so I dont have to watch Eurospurt for my fix.

On the plus side Martin Haven was great again at the WTCC - hes good in the same way Toby & Julian are on the bikes.
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I have to agree that he much worse than James Allen, even Allen doesn't do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRPmcbHIdSY
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Poor poor Gareth Rees.. oh oh, for a moment there I though he would get a word in edgeways. Phew!
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That was a massive crash, and you can tell that Carlton is shocked and concerned for Dumbreck.

He made a few howlers at Le man, and we know he's not the most knowledgable, but sheesh give the guy a break !

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khalithistle's comment below the video sums it up so well..
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That was a massive crash, and you can tell that Carlton is shocked and concerned for Dumbreck.

He made a few howlers at Le man, and we know he's not the most knowledgable, but sheesh give the guy a break !
Sorry, but that was an object lesson in how not to handle a commentary when there is a serious accident.

And anyone who says "oh my life" should be automatically banned from all work. Actually, from life itself.
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Just to say I very much enjoyed Carltons commentary at Le Mans this year - I put it on mute everytime he was doing a stint!! Shame he ruined the end of the race though (baby daughter had the remote so I couldnt mute it) - 1 gem that did shine through was him saying Kristensen was breaking his own record - well yes his, and a certain Mr Ickx!
Point of order...wasn't he sort of, well, correct on this point? Kristensen 8, Ickx 6...
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