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Old 10 Dec 2006, 06:55 (Ref:1786463)   #1
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6.213km should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid6.213km should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Lowndes should have been black flagged??

Forget the incident that caused the damage for a moment.

I'd like to ask why a crippled car, with the front wheels pointing in different directions, can be allowed to continue in a race on one of the quickest circuits in Australia.

We have seen others pulled in for flapping body work all year. Id have thought this car posed a greater threat to competitor safety then, for example, some flapping plastic.

If Lowndes had popped a tyre who knows who he could have cannoned into. Poor form stewards, he should have been in the pits and made to fix the problem.
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 06:58 (Ref:1786465)   #2
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Ive seen worse damage to steering allowed to continue ... He still seemed to be peddling around ok albeit a lot slower only ended up 4 laps down with all the stops.


I am sure it would have been looked at.
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 07:04 (Ref:1786470)   #3
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just goes to show how good a driver he is nursing his car home like that im sure kelly wouldnt have been able to do the same
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 07:19 (Ref:1786493)   #4
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Yeah, I reakon he did an unbelieveable job of continuing on with the car like that. At no time did he or his car look dangerous or hamper any other driver.
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 07:51 (Ref:1786520)   #5
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Phase3 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
the job Lowndesy did of getting that car around 30 laps of Phillip Island was truly remarkable and was a bight spot in a day of grubbiness....

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Old 10 Dec 2006, 08:49 (Ref:1786566)   #6
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just goes to show how good a driver he is nursing his car home like that im sure kelly wouldnt have been able to do the same
have you actually seen race 3?? i didn't think it was televised in nz until 11:30 tonight
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 08:54 (Ref:1786572)   #7
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Maybe this thread should be black flagged ?????
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 08:58 (Ref:1786580)   #8
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Lets get the rules straight, the question asked should have been "should lowndes been meatballed?"
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Old 10 Dec 2006, 10:19 (Ref:1786655)   #9
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have you actually seen race 3?? i didn't think it was televised in nz until 11:30 tonight
there are ways and means
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Old 11 Dec 2006, 00:30 (Ref:1787282)   #10
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Lowndes was perfectly well-behaved. If he was constantly in the way and a general menace to others on the track I would have understood a black flag.

But at no point did I ever see him hold anyone up or get in anyone's way.
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Old 11 Dec 2006, 09:46 (Ref:1787720)   #11
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Poor form Stewards?

I'm a little bit lost here. Since when do the Stewards black flag cars? I thought that is the job of the Clerk of Course or the Race Director.
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Old 11 Dec 2006, 10:07 (Ref:1787744)   #12
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Indeed you are correct, a Black Flag comes from the Clerk of the Course, although he may have been in discussion with the stewards beforehand.
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Old 11 Dec 2006, 10:26 (Ref:1787763)   #13
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Black Flag..or Racing Incident??

As a Flaggie...I try to be as impartial as possible...and, to me,

Craig went into the corner too hot (probably defending his possie as well), got a little out of shape....Kelly decides to go with him.

Faced with a rapidly slowing, out of shape car...Kelly could either not stop in time or decided (ohh well) give him a nudge.

Whether either of them thought it would end up in such a hoo-hah is anybody's guess Its the sort of thing you see time-after-time....the difference this time was all the hype associated with the Championship points.
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Old 12 Dec 2006, 01:00 (Ref:1788521)   #14
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Forget the incident that caused the damage for a moment.

I'd like to ask why a crippled car, with the front wheels pointing in different directions, can be allowed to continue in a race on one of the quickest circuits in Australia.

We have seen others pulled in for flapping body work all year. Id have thought this car posed a greater threat to competitor safety then, for example, some flapping plastic.

If Lowndes had popped a tyre who knows who he could have cannoned into. Poor form stewards, he should have been in the pits and made to fix the problem.
Clutching at straws arent we?
Cars get damaged all the time. How often do you see cars driving around with bonnets bent up after a nose to tail touch. You could claim that if the bonnet pins are damaged the whole bonnets could easily fly up blocking the drivers view.
Skaifey deliberately turned off his rain light (which is a requirement when you have wets on) at Sandown in 2003 because he was losing power. The rain light is there for a reason, so the car behind can see you through the spray. So you could argue that he deliberately caused a safety concern but he wasnt asked to come in and fix it either.
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Old 12 Dec 2006, 03:01 (Ref:1788572)   #15
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How come the team did nothing to get the wheels even close to pointing straight Dumb if you ask me
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Old 12 Dec 2006, 05:43 (Ref:1788631)   #16
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would have taken at least 4 laps with no guarantees.

he only ended up 4 laps down from memory.

I think all he was doing is peddling around hoping something major would happen to Rick putting him back in the race for the championship
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