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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:07 (Ref:3679475)   #26
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Crysler in TCR/TCN2.

Today Chrysler means Fiat Chrylser Automobiles.

Cars for TCR/TCN2;

Alfa Romeo Gulietta https://youtu.be/TH75W-ltYbI

Fiat Tipo

Dodge Dart https://youtu.be/UlYMMjYqFQk

TCR and TCN2 have allowed engine change in the regulation.

The new 2 liter turbo MultAir engine from Fiat Chrysler Automobile are a good engine for TCR/TCN2 racing.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:28 (Ref:3679478)   #27
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This discussion are not new in STCC!

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The guy has been on Swedish boards with several different user names posting the exact same stuff.

I have seen a big document about Swedish racing and I am not alone!

STCC AB and other racing people have also seen it!

In touring car racing today, there are many people talking how you can make racing cheaper. If you buy or have a franchise agreement, you must pay for it.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:33 (Ref:3679481)   #28
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About the silly season in STCC for the switch to TCR next year these are some rumors, and facts.

PWR Racing is expected to field at least three SEAT, with up to six SEAT rumoured from the team which might be necessary to get some cars on the grid.

A driver in Clio Cup will take the step up to STCC in a VW Golf that will be run by Lestrup Racing.

Westcoast Racing has said they will not enter STCC next year. They will run race operations for Volvo which are rumoured to be a TTA-Volvo in Swedish GT.

Finnish LMS Racing might enter 1-2 SEAT in STCC next year.

Mattias Andersson does not have a drive or car for the team confirmed. He has expressed an interest if a budget and a car can be found.

NIKA Racing is rumoured to be working on 1-2 Opels for STCC next year, but they have a history of tight budgets and big plans that not always come through.

Right now potentially six cars:

3 PWR SEAT
1 VW Golf
2 LMS SEAT

With another 3 SEAT we might see 9 cars on the grid, growing to 11 if the plans for NIKA Racing and Mattias Andersson come to anything.
Brovallen with the Ford Focus?
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 10:15 (Ref:3679496)   #29
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Brovallen with the Ford Focus?
If they find a driver with a budget anything is possible, but not likely.

They had one car this year, and the driver struggled massively for budget and in the end they had to cancel the final weekend after having cancelled sessions throughout the season. It is now a legal matter for the team to try and get what they are owed.

And today STCC released that they will merge Clio Cup with STCC/TCR next year so the signs are that there are few entries ready.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 10:18 (Ref:3679499)   #30
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STCC merges TCR and Clio Cup in main class for 2017.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 10:18 (Ref:3679500)   #31
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STCC and Clio Cup Scandinavia will run together next year.

Edit: same time
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 12:44 (Ref:3679544)   #32
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I take from this move that, as previously mentioned, grid numbers may be small.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 12:50 (Ref:3679547)   #33
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That's no change from this season then...
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 12:52 (Ref:3679549)   #34
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That's no change from this season then...
No, except from the fact that only three manufacturer team cars from this season are gone from the grid, and two other teams from this season don't have an option yet for the new regulations and another three-car team likewise don't have an option.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 13:14 (Ref:3679558)   #35
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Teams come, teams go. It's always been like that, and transitions from one rule-set to another are notorious for causing a bit of a ruckus. STCC will survive, new teams will come eventually
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 13:26 (Ref:3679561)   #36
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No, except from the fact that only three manufacturer team cars from this season are gone from the grid, and two other teams from this season don't have an option yet for the new regulations and another three-car team likewise don't have an option.
You mean Volvo and Dacia.

Why can't Flash and Brovallen take part? Do they have official support from Nissan and Ford?

In past year I have asked my self if it's not a good idea to merge TCR Benelux and Clio Cup Benelux. Now the Swedish take that step.
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Old 13 Oct 2016, 04:00 (Ref:3679681)   #37
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STCC Heritage

This is how STCC have been looking when it´s using it´s STCC trademark!

STCC 1996-2002 “Super Touring ” https://youtu.be/A1jellSPJaE

STCC 2003-2012 “S2000 ” https://youtu.be/bVTrbENeqlI

Super Touring cars and S2000; This time Sweden used technical rules by FIA and national Swedish technical rules, to get maximum starting field, maximum car brands and car models.

Country’s that use it´s on trademark, have more car brands and models in there Touring car racing series!

In China Touring Car Championship “2,0 turbo super cup”; https://youtu.be/CoFIk35M9us

China CTCC are having Ford Focus, Volkswagen Lamando, Baicmotor Senova 70s, Haima, Citroén, Mercedes, KIA, Honda, Mazda participating. A lot of these car brands and models are produced in plants in China.

BTCC haven`t rebranded it to “NGTC” , when they changed technical rules.

In BTCC they are doing the same they have MG, Proton, Vauxhall which are produced in U.K. BTCC have 11 car brands, taking part today.

Every country have special customers needs who have it owns expectations and need local marketing strategy to be fur filled.
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Old 13 Oct 2016, 05:15 (Ref:3679688)   #38
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You mean Volvo and Dacia.

Why can't Flash and Brovallen take part? Do they have official support from Nissan and Ford?

In past year I have asked my self if it's not a good idea to merge TCR Benelux and Clio Cup Benelux. Now the Swedish take that step.
No I mean Volvo. Polestar Cyan Racing was the only manufacturer backed team left in STCC and they will not be in the series next year, and they entered three cars.

Dacia was dealer backed with some importer support as well. They will also not be left.

Neither Flash or Brovallen has any support from Nissan and Ford. Flash had some dealer support on the "Nissan" Linus Ohlsson drove.

They could take part, anything is possible, but it is not likely. They need to find drivers with the budget.

Brovallen is still owed money for this season from the driver, and that might be a legal matter.

Flash has hinted there will not be a team from them next year.
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Old 13 Oct 2016, 16:38 (Ref:3679790)   #39
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This is how STCC have been looking when it´s using it´s STCC trademark!

STCC 1996-2002 “Super Touring ”https://youtu.be/A1jellSPJaE

STCC 2003-2012 “S2000 ” https://youtu.be/bVTrbENeqlI

Super Touring cars and S2000; This time Sweden used technical rules by FIA and national Swedish technical rules, to get maximum starting field, maximum car brands and car models.

Country’s that use it´s on trademark, have more car brands and models in there Touring car racing. In China Touring Car Championship “2,0 turbo super cup”; https://youtu.be/CoFIk35M9us

China CTCC are having Ford Focus, Volkswagen Lamando, Baicmotor Senova 70s, Haima, Citroén, Mercedes, KIA, Honda, Mazda participating. A lot of these car brands and models are produced in plants in China.

BTCC haven`t rebranded it to “NGTC” , when they changed technical rules.

In BTCC they are doing the same they have MG, Proton, Vauxhall which are produced in U.K. BTCC have 11 car brands, taking part today.

Every country have special customers needs who have it owns expectations and need local marketing strategy to be fur filled.
Go ahead and tell me the difference between "STCC" and "STCC TCR Scandinavia". No one outside forums like this one will actually know it's got a new name they'll just keep calling it STCC as they have done for 20 years. It really doesn't matter.
I don't know why they've chosen the franchise over FiA's TCN2, maybe you can shed some light on that. Obviously the organizers have seen advantages by going with WSC rather than the FiA. Perhaps better availability of new cars?
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Fail!

And it's things like that that don't inspire a lot of confidence - any sensible organizer would run stuff like that past the teams before going public with it.
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Do they not talk to teams and drivers before they announce changes?
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Well, thats um... embarrassing.
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Old 14 Oct 2016, 12:38 (Ref:3679974)   #44
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Don´t feed the troll.
Are FIA art 262 TCN2 a ”troll"?

FIA technical rules are better for TCR in STCC.

To do the Balance of Performance (BOP) you can do in it at a track in Sweden, the driver can be Rickard Rydell.

It´s much cheaper to do it in Sweden, than do it in Valencia in Spain with World Sport Consulting LTD with N. Larini. It´s a long way to travel from Sweden to Spain to get the same answer.
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Are FIA art 262 TCN2 a ”troll"?

FIA technical rules are better for TCR in STCC.

To do the Balance of Performance (BOP) you can do in it at a track in Sweden, the driver can be Rickard Rydell.

It´s much cheaper to do it in Sweden, than do it in Valencia in Spain with World Sport Consulting LTD with N. Larini. It´s a long way to travel from Sweden to Spain to get the same answer.
You don't need to travel anywhere... you just take WSC's BoP sheet.
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Well, thats um... embarrassing.
Smooth sailing as always

In any case it's the right call - I'd rather have a tiny grid with no Clios than a tiny grid with them. I'd prefer no sub-classes but if they have to have them they should be open, like ETCC.
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You don't need to travel anywhere... you just take WSC's BoP sheet.
Are you making any modifications you must do a new Bop.
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More TCN2 info

FIA pressrelase TCN2

http://www.fia.com/news/new-tcn2-tec...ring-cars-2016

WTCC 2017 ?? with TCN2
https://www.fiawtcc.com/from-etcc-to...th-to-the-top/
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CTCC cars in TCR!

Citroén CTCC cars to race in TCR

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...quad-to-macau/

"CTCC" China Touring Car Championship “2,0 turbo super cup”; https://youtu.be/CoFIk35M9us
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