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F1 would carry on without a British GP, in the same way as it has done for years without the French GP, and will without a German GP etc.
Much as teams might complain to the media, I dont expect that they would see the lack of a British GP as the end of the world. I doubt many sponsors would care whether their logo is seen on a TV screen on a car in Northampton, or on a TV screen on a car in Nagpur. |
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Precisely, I couldn't care less of there was a GP here, it might rid Silverstone of some of the crippling debt it is riddled with and might though I doubt it make these people realise you cant hold every country to ransome for a motor race just because Arabs have deep pockets
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No British GP and, worse, no Italian GP will harm F1.
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I doubt you would find many people in Europe who would agree with you there sorry.
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Only if they happen in the same year. A gradual withdrawal won't phase too many unfortunately, just us purists. Just the same that Korea, India, and Valencia and Turkey and Indianapolis, and... etc didn't harm the circus.
Still, there is always the London street circuit proposal. Haven't seen that trotted out yet this time 'round. |
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They need to find a buyer and exit stage any side. Not hang in. Then maybe someone who understands how to run a business and turn a profit can manage the place properly.
The biggest challenge some think they face is where the blazers can park their cars, old boy, at least 50 years out of date |
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If you are running a huge facility like Silverstone and you have signed up to a contract that escalates year on year. I think the blame has to be pointed at the people who accepted and signed that contract, because the escalator is not a few quid, it is millions of pounds more year on year.
If you can't make money with the existing deal, what makes anyone think they could if they have to pay more each year? Silverstone hosts some huge events over the year but as we have found out on this thread, hosting massive meetings means you perhaps do not make as much money as you think. Or so we are told from one venue and I cant imagine others are that different. Be interesting to know how Palmer goes about it differently. If you look he doesn't really host that many huge international events as the hosting fees mean he either takes a profit hit or puts up tickets prices massively, something he isn't prepared to do. And one of his biggest series, BSB, he owns anyway! |
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Hi everyone.......somebody asked earlier...."whats happened to Brands Hatch these days?......Answer....its still majestic and amazing with smallish gravel traps and savage "MENS" corners like Paddock hill, its steeped in history the atmosphere is always electric, in the 60s, and 70s I would stand there with my Dad watching Gladiators of the sport dueling in epic battles literally risking life and limb and then see them on the podium having a beer and a fag! If you watch "RUSH".....Thats not a film its how it was!......Im afraid we are never going back my friends your stuck with flat boring large gravel trapped rubbish.
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MSV acquires Donington, announced this morning. Initial 21 year lease.
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Interesting news that
Be fascinating to see what happens with some of the bigger events that happen at Donington now. JP has a history of not really being keen on paying large fees for events at his tracks, unless they are doing well. So let's hope he keeps to that habit. |
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I wish they would go back to green and white kerbs at the MSV tracks.
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I honestly believe Bernie's problem with Silverstone (which usually produces great races and huge, knowledgeable crowds) is that it attracts no government subsidy. He doesn't need more money, he just likes world leaders to lick his boots clean, and he's continuously failed to achieve that here.
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I think it might be something else too.
He will probably have numerous current or future projects in his back pocket ready to go and gets fed up with the moaning and dithering the BRDC offer when it comes to deal time. Think of it from his point of view, if you have government backed, spanking new tracks in your back pocket and you have to deal with a fairly old, tatty circuit, then are you going to be hugely enthused to deal with that for months on end? He doesn't care where the new tracks are or history. I think he gives them leeway at times, but whoever signed this escalating contract is a complete idiot in all honesty. That should never have been an aspect to the deal as you can only make SO much money out of an event, all that is left for Silverstone to do is to year on year raise the tickets prices by 20% or so and hope people will still come. |
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What is probably the big problem with the escalator is the low inflation rates we have had for the last few years. If inflation had be running at 4 or 5 % for the last few years it would not be an issue.
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But there was similarly low inflation when the deal was signed a few years ago, so either way that aspect of the contract was fairly poorly overlooked.
I totally understand why they signed it, but really, you can't moan about it as they have done in the last few weeks when you have signed a deal that makes it harder and harder to run the event!! |
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Didn't Damon Hill sign this deal? Somewhere in my head, I remember him negotiating a deal for many years...someone will know on here..
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Absolutely, the place could be so much more profitable but no, better to put your efforts into a new clubhouse or then build an awful new pitlane in the wrong place...
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I think Donington could use a little investment. I was saddened when Starkey's bar closed, I hoped that could be re-opened at some point.
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I'm also staggered that to convert the hanger building into a heritage centre providing a 2 hour 'interactive experience' is going to cost £20M! As a comparison a well known superstore brand is building a brand new store (which may well be bigger than the hanger) in our area, including demolition of an existing site, creation of car parking, landscaping, etc and we are told the budget for that is £4.5M...
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