My Tracks

[pirenzo]

Lovely track, it really is
I'm reminded off Enna-Pergusa and Bathurst and the Glen in various ways.

[the_royksopp]

Class!

Though, i dont think it'd fit that great in 2k4. But it's still a great track!

[mandretti39]

Whilst looking at the map of the Vancouver circuit for ChampCars at http://www.racingcircuits.net , I noticed that both the old and new circuits share pieces of the same track. So I wondered, what would the track look like if both circuits were combined? Well, here it is (with the pit moved to the straight between what were turns one and two on the old circuit):


I also thought that at Silverstone, the run to Maggots, Becketts, and Chapel needed to be lengthened, therefore, making the approach faster, and the complex trickier to drive. I did this by moving the main straight to the left of its current location, thus reprofiling Copse and Woodcote. Also, the pits have been moved to where the main straight used to be. I modified the run between Stowe and Club (not really sure why). Finally, I reprofiled the run between Abbey and Priory, just to make the circuit a bit quicker. Here it is:

[pirenzo]

Like the Vancouver circuit.
Not so the silverstone one...

near flat out club into 1400m straight into decreasing radius left hander with bugger all run off, no thanks!

[f1freak]

Vancouver is OK. Maybe if you didn't have the two chicane's on the top of the circuit, it would make it more smooter to drive. It has too many chicane's overall...

Silverstone on the other hand isn't a 21st century circuit. It looks like a great circuit, if they were to have built it in 1991. So the circuit is good, but the circuit over top the current Silverstone circuit is bad...

[mandretti39]

f1freak...
How's this for Vancouver?

[f1freak]

yea, that's exactly what I mean ...

Actually, that wouldn't be a bad idea for an F1 track, it's long enough isn't it???... Ohh well, wishful thinking...

[Flaming_Wuzzle]

Remember the max. straight length rule? The straight (not really a straight, but I don't see any spots where you'd need to slow down) from T4 (the hairpinish turn after the pit exit) to where the support series paddock is currently would be at least 2 km, so it could never be an F1 track unles they chicaned that section.

So, yes, it's only wishful thinking.

[the_royksopp]

Doesnt it have to be a proper 'straight', not just a flat out section?

It'd still be dangerous, though...

[pirenzo]

Originally posted by Flaming_Wuzzle
Remember the max. straight length rule? The straight (not really a straight, but I don't see any spots where you'd need to slow down) from T4 (the hairpinish turn after the pit exit) to where the support series paddock is currently would be at least 2 km, so it could never be an F1 track unles they chicaned that section.

So, yes, it's only wishful thinking.

I've been trawling through all the appendices in the FIA website, and it appears the 1000m rule no long exists This is probably because Tilke keeps designing tracks with straights longer than this, and proving them to be perfectly safe, in this day and age.
On a street track you have to be so careful with flat out sections because very often there's no room to slow down at the other end, and so the circuits have to be slow in order that speed is never sufficiently built up to severly overcome the circuits safety measures. The last thing you want on a street track is a high speed entry to a very slow corner. You have to slow them gradually.
Just look at the run off there is at the Monaco chicane and still there are huge accidents there.

[the_royksopp]

Thats great news, P.

Still, as you say, long straights on street tracks are not great, considering the runoff.

[luke]

The track I was thinking of, wouldn't that be the best Vancouver configuration yet.

[Purist]

Those bends on the back side of what was the old configuration would not all be flat out, I don't think. That bend on the current layout on the back side that the champcars take flat out would not be flat with the extra speed leading to it. Also, the roadway widens out significantly in the braking zone before the current support pits.

Is there road to allow the chicane before the current pits to be linked to the start of the old start/finish straight?

[Chaynes321]

very quiet recently!

[Chaynes321]

no real good ideas.. weve look at all the different types of corner/circuits, what else could we do?

[Lustigson]

Very, very quiet indeed.

[the_royksopp]

Yah.

I guess it's just "on a low" atm .

I'm working on a new track though. It should be finished in the weekend...

[pirenzo]

I did have challenge but my computer's screwing up, so I'm gonnahave to reinstall windows in the next couple of days. We'll see about it at the weekend.
Not being able to upload images any more kinda sucks..

[f1freak]

I got two tracks I might scan and post later, but nothing that really jumps up...

[the_royksopp]

Not being able to upload images any more kinda sucks..

Y-E-A-H!

[Mike_Wooshy]

hi guys im back i just started a new college course of the disasters of last year anyway ...... yes it does suck not being able to upload trying to get hold of some web space so i can make a web page or something .... anyway keep on drawing people .

[Tinik]

Just send the tracks to me (Tinik@Safetycar.dk) and i will put them online.

[f1freak]

I've updated Fantasy Tracks. I've added two tracks, Sandbank and Silverton Raceway.

Silverton has potnetial, but it isn't to the standards I've been seeing from other people and all of you guys.

Sandbank is a good circuit in my opinion.

What do you guys think???...

[the_royksopp]

Sandbank would be a nice drive, i dont think there'd be a great deal of passing there though,

Silverton, well... I find it very hard to judge tracks drawed in edgelines (i.e. not in a single line, but drawing the edges and then filling in the space inbetween). They can be as good tracks as the others, i just find it very hard to judge on them.

[pirenzo]

I don't really like either of them tbh.
I've got a track I'm gonna send to you Conrad, but since reformatting my hard drive I don't have Excel anymore, and I'm only slowly learning how to use a proper image program I have so its not of very high quality...