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View Poll Results: Who will drive for Williams in 05 possibley 04?
Rubens Barrichello 2 2.67%
Jensen Button 10 13.33%
Gincarlo Fisichella 4 5.33%
Jacques Villeneuve 13 17.33%
Mark Webber 37 49.33%
Other 9 12.00%
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 12:04 (Ref:793870)   #51
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Adam, can we send the result of this pool to the Williams team ?
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 12:24 (Ref:793887)   #52
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In defence of JV. People keep saying that Button qualified better than JV this year. There is a slight grey area with this. What people over look is that JV out qualified JB in combined grid positions. JVs total 33 places to JBs 27.
Granted Button outqualified him 8 races to 7 but that's only a whopping single race. The press makes it out that JB crushed Jacques this season. Hardly!
And as we all know (and for some ridiculous reason some people would like to think is irrelevant) JV had 8 mechanical failures to Button's 3 in the 15 GPs raced. I'm sorry but that is a big difference.
With this information it is only realistic to assume that JV at the minimum would be on par with JB this year if not better.
Qualification battle was 6 - 9 in Jensens favour similiary fastest lap was 4- 10 in Jensens favour. JV: 7 finishes 7 retirments - JB: 10 finishes 4 retirements. Relevancy, for a young rookie compared to the mighty JV [not my opinion]is significant.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 12:42 (Ref:793907)   #53
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Jacques Villeneuve will announce His Plan's for the future tomorrow in Switzerland,
Without JV in the F1 lineup in 2004 the inerest in North America will drop like the Berlin Wall. Fans Will Not Buy Tickets to support Teams who tried to Destroy the #1 man in F1.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 12:47 (Ref:793911)   #54
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I think he did a pretty good job of destroying himself, Tony. He failed to beat Jenson like he said he would (even taking into account his poor reliability record) and so now he's out of F1 like he said he would be. If keeping North America was important to Jacques he should have tried a bit harder.

No teams tried to destroy Jacques - even BAR did nothing but give him extravagant amounts of money for mediocre results. The other teams won't hire him because they have better drivers already.

A quick straw poll of any group of F1 fans, Canadians included, would reveal the name of the sport's number one name - you know, German fella.
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Without JV in the F1 lineup in 2004 the inerest in North America will drop like the Berlin Wall. Fans Will Not Buy Tickets to support Teams who tried to Destroy the #1 man in F1.
Tony, you're a die-hard fan of JV. I just hope what you're saying becomes true tomorrow, I just hope...
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:04 (Ref:793926)   #56
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Agreed, I hope that too. I hope that he'll hold a press conference tomorrow, and anounce his plans in CART or restaurant-business or whatever. That will cut the agony... hopefully.

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Adam, can we send the result of this pool to the Williams team ?
Not a bad idea! Although I'm sure all the JV talk will bore the pants of Frank and Patrick.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:11 (Ref:793939)   #58
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Yes You and a good man others Wish JV will Retire Tomorow Rather than see JV Beat Your guys Like he did in 1996/97
You would Have to be A proper Fool Not to See That.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:14 (Ref:793943)   #59
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Tony, JV retired 1 month ago.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:20 (Ref:793950)   #60
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Tony where did you get that info ?
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:23 (Ref:793953)   #61
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Tony where did you get that info ?
where did you get that info JV?
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 13:24 (Ref:793955)   #62
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Inigo found a link. Anyway, the only piece of information (that is opposed to whishful thinking) is that tomorrow he has something to say. What does he have to say, that's a different business altogether.
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This thread is slowly being destroyed. It is a shame that talk about the other contenders has been lost. Normally this only gets put in a PM, but perhaps a public airing is needed. it is from this forum's FAQ, which everyone agreed to when they signed up. http://tentenths.com/forum/misc.php?...ge=1#behaviour
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but I think that Fisichella is the man that should have the drive. He has the talent, and one of the top teams should give him a try.
So how much of a chance does Fisi have? IM is running the campaign and I think he would do well. Is he going for that Ferrari drive?

Although I think he can get out of Sauber a year early.
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He said he was free to move to a top team...
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 14:04 (Ref:794026)   #66
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I obviously would like Fisi in a Ferrari, but it probably won't happen (Massa Alonso in 2005_.

Fisi and Ralf have been excellent teammates in the past. In fact, Ralf has been the closest (in terms of performance) of any Fisi's teammates. I certainly don't think Williams loses anything in a Montoya -Fisi switch. In fact, I think they gain - alot, but that is my biased opinion
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It has to be Webber, naturally fast and also he would be a good team mate for Ralf.
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Old 25 Nov 2003, 14:24 (Ref:794048)   #68
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Fisi and Ralf have been excellent teammates in the past.
Did they patch it up after their first year together at Jordan? I remember they couldn't stand each other, particularly after Ralf took Fisi out of a race when trying to overtake him.
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Yes, I believe they patched it up.. But what I meant is that they are teammates that can push each other to the limit.
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Yes You and a good man others Wish JV will Retire Tomorow Rather than see JV Beat Your guys Like he did in 1996/97
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Maybe Jacques will Announce He Has signed with Ferarri,After all schumacher is Loosing it,and looking for a way out.
Tony F. P. are you also MOTO on another Forum who also has been posting BS of this nature - we are to smart for this.
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all the info is here guys sorry about the bad news for the JV fans
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Sorry, if we could not talk about JV for a minute

According to tomorrow's Autosport Damon Hill thinks it should be Button, he would would like to see Jenson get 'a good crack'. Damon rates Button and thinks that Button might be back at Williams one day.
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No word from Tony then on todays ground breaking anouncement that "Jacques thinks Button's quite good". So much for the much touted Williams drive...
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Sorry guys Not the news We JV fans wanted to hear, But Jacques spoke very Highly of Mr. Button.
still believe Montoya will get the boot prior to the first GP Race, Maybe JV will get a shot with Willians one more time,Who knows maybe..Williams/Villeneuve/Button...
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