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Old 10 May 2003, 05:05 (Ref:595114)   #1
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Mugen Honda

just got to thinking about Honda in F1 this year and remember a few years back when Mugen prepared the engines after Honda officially pulled out.

I may be wrong but i believe that was still part of the Honda families companies and not just a comercial offshoot.

but what i really want to know about them is this.

are Mugen still operating and preparing race engines???
do they have anything to do with the Hondas that BAR are using ??

and shoudl they get re-involved with F1 to add yet another (well sort of) engine company into the mix ???

I'd like to see them there , i mean they could draw from the resources of honda themselves but yet put their own spin on things , but I guess if they started beating the factory hondas then there would be questions asked and heads might roll , but its an interesting thought anyway.
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Old 10 May 2003, 05:29 (Ref:595123)   #2
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Not sure what mugen are doing now except the usual kits for honda cars.
Mugen is owned and run (last i heard) by the son of the founder of honda.I'm sure thay would get involved in f1 if someone paid them to as before (by either honda or a customer team)
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Old 10 May 2003, 05:51 (Ref:595126)   #3
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If Honda pull out, expect to see Mugen-Honda's for a few years...
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Old 10 May 2003, 05:52 (Ref:595127)   #4
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Mugen is still primarily a tuner company but im sure they do some racing. Ilmor was designing and building the recent Honda engines but now that Mercedes owns them im not sure what happened, probably spun off into a different company.
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Old 10 May 2003, 06:15 (Ref:595135)   #5
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Mygen build engines for the Formula Nippon.
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Old 10 May 2003, 09:02 (Ref:595197)   #6
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they are also building f3 engines
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Mugen is still primarily a tuner company but im sure they do some racing. Ilmor was designing and building the recent Honda engines but now that Mercedes owns them im not sure what happened, probably spun off into a different company.
Ilmor built Honda engines? Rubbish!
Honda built Honda engines!
Ilmor had nothing to do with Honda.
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Old 10 May 2003, 11:48 (Ref:595272)   #8
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Sorry I didnt clarify. Ilmor is building Honda IRL engines, not F1.

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Old 10 May 2003, 11:57 (Ref:595280)   #9
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Are you sure they are not refering to Honda's IRL engine which is built by Ilmor. I believe the F1 engine is built by Honda.
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Old 10 May 2003, 13:12 (Ref:595333)   #11
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I think it is obvious Mugen are not involved anymore

Mugen were successful.
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But Mugen don't have the resources to compete in F1 now, any more than Judd, Mader or Roush do.
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