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13 Jul 2003, 13:27 (Ref:660013)
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Last non-tobacco champion?
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Following Williams emergence in the title race I started thinking about the last time the championship was won by a non-tobacco sponsored car? I'm thinking 1983 and Nelson Piquet when he was sponsored by Parmalat in his Brabham. |
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13 Jul 2003, 16:35 (Ref:660070)
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It must be Piquet, as I don't remember did Williams have Barclay sponsoring them in 1987? If not, then it must be Piquet in 1983
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13 Jul 2003, 18:37 (Ref:660141)
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13 Jul 2003, 20:31 (Ref:660206)
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Shame it wasn't Keke!!!!! That would be a little ironic.
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13 Jul 2003, 20:41 (Ref:660212)
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I originally thought it was Keke then I remembered the sponsorship of the Brabham!
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13 Jul 2003, 23:56 (Ref:660336)
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And Keke had Marlboro ads on his helmet and overalls.
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14 Jul 2003, 12:39 (Ref:660688)
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Williams started using Barclay advertising in 1988, so the last no-tobacco champion is Piquet in '87.
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14 Jul 2003, 13:07 (Ref:660717)
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But the 1987 Williams were sponsered by Camal cigarettes
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14 Jul 2003, 13:13 (Ref:660719)
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Yes, Brabham 1983 with Piquet.
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14 Jul 2003, 14:14 (Ref:660792)
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No, not Camel.
ICI Tactel sponsored them from 1983 until 1991, Camel started sponsoring Williams in 1991 or 1992. |
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14 Jul 2003, 14:15 (Ref:660795)
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This is the 1986 Williams (livery stayed the same for '87)
 And this is the 1992 Williams FW14B 
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14 Jul 2003, 16:43 (Ref:660939)
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Indeed the 1987 Williams sponsored in yellow by ICI not Camel:
http://www.ifrance.com/F1GT/images/GP/IMGP437e.jpg Camel were involved with F1 that year. Sponsoring (nearlly) all of the Lotuses. One of them even had a yellow helmet!  http://www.ifrance.com/F1GT/images/GP/IMGP440a.jpg (now that is tyre graining!!!)More pictures from that year can be found on this website: http://www.ifrance.com/F1GT/Galeries/Gal1987.htm Last edited by Adam43; 14 Jul 2003 at 16:44. |
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14 Jul 2003, 16:54 (Ref:660945)
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®îjñtjûh is right after all, I have checked some sources and it seems to be that way. BUT still I have one doubt, if anyone can clear on that, Piquet used to have "Hollywood" logo in his helmet, which is a tobacco brand (BAT). I just don't know the season he had this sponsorship.
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14 Jul 2003, 17:00 (Ref:660950)
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Not Hollywood, but I have just found evidence that Piquet was sponsored by Barclay in 1987!
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14 Jul 2003, 17:04 (Ref:660953)
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From 1987:
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14 Jul 2003, 17:09 (Ref:660956)
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OK, so that just says BAR...
well here is CLAY  1987: Last edited by Adam43; 14 Jul 2003 at 17:15. |
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14 Jul 2003, 17:14 (Ref:660964)
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and in case you were wondering, Nige was had them too in 1987!
(complete with comedy glasses, moustache and er eye brows :confused:  
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14 Jul 2003, 17:21 (Ref:660967)
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1987: Ooo look it was on the car.
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14 Jul 2003, 17:21 (Ref:660968)
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Here it is (now):
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14 Jul 2003, 17:23 (Ref:660970)
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Cool, what year was that Bononi? 1983 (I hope
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Steve... Ooops Adam, I guess this close the case !
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14 Jul 2003, 17:27 (Ref:660974)
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 Dunno... 
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This seems to be the final proof, Barclay in the car, and in the helmet, "Hollywood" (?!)
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14 Jul 2003, 17:37 (Ref:660983)
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Well it looks like it just might just be parmalat round the red stripe in 1983, although I'm not 100% sure.
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