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Old 23 Apr 2004, 22:12 (Ref:949545)   #1
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Greg Ray to sue everyone
He is on a rampage. First Foyt will be sued (next time sign an actual contract Greg) and possibly Tom Kelly and ex-sponsor Trim Spa in the future.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...efs.559b3.html
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Old 23 Apr 2004, 23:47 (Ref:949610)   #2
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its a shame when motorsport gets dragged into a courtroom.

if its all true then i say good luck to him but i dont know the full details so you just gotta say let the courts sort it I guess.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 10:50 (Ref:949905)   #3
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If it's going to be in court, legally there isn't anything we can discuss here.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 11:46 (Ref:949954)   #4
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I'm not sure thats such a good idea. What if he loses? It's not like he has money to splash about.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 12:02 (Ref:949973)   #5
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Re: Greg Ray to sue everyone
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He is on a rampage. First Foyt will be sued (next time sign an actual contract Greg) and possibly Tom Kelly and ex-sponsor Trim Spa in the future.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...efs.559b3.html
While actually signing a contract is a good idea, verbal contracts are legal & binding in Texas. You just need a witness or tape recording to prove it. Does Greg have that?
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 13:01 (Ref:950063)   #6
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Let that be discussed in court.

Talking about it here could prejudice the chances of the case getting a fair hearing.
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 14:20 (Ref:950156)   #7
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While actually signing a contract is a good idea, verbal contracts are legal & binding in Texas. You just need a witness or tape recording to prove it. Does Greg have that?
Verbal contracts are legal in most US states, but its very difficult to enforce such a contract when you have conflicting stories. He should have a witness or recording, I guess we shall see. Greg Ray is not some 21 year old kid.

I wonder on what grounds he would sue Tom Kelly and Trim Spa?
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Two questions for Kicking-back...

"If it's going to be in court, legally there isn't anything we can discuss here."
Please explain.

"Talking about it here could prejudice the chances of the case getting a fair hearing."
What are the odds of a judge, or even a juror, being a 10T's member?
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Also how can informed discussion based on public documents possibly be a contempt of Court? Has Texan censorship gone that far?

Plus you don't even (necessarily) need witnesses to an oral agreement. The fact that the parties conducted themselves as if there was an agreement can be deemed a contract. And Greg Ray driving a Foyt ****box will not be considered someone does gratuitously; even if there were no formal agreement as to salary Ray would be entitled to a reasonable sum.

Am guessing Foyt will counterclaim on the basis that Ray did not bring sufficient sponsorship and therefore Ray was in breach. And that Foyt's damages exceed those due to Ray.
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Amazing that they can't settle this thing out of court. But in todays world, I guess its par for the course...
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I can't believe Foyt is naive enough not to have a contract with his drivers and I can't believe Ray is dumb enough to drive without a written one.

Foyt foolishly contradicted himself by saying he didn't have a contract with Ray, yet said Ray "promised" Foyt certain amounts of sponsorship. Gee, sounds like a contract to me.
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Two questions for Kicking-back...

"If it's going to be in court, legally there isn't anything we can discuss here."
Please explain.

"Talking about it here could prejudice the chances of the case getting a fair hearing."
What are the odds of a judge, or even a juror, being a 10T's member?
Its more that any words in here could be printed off and used in a court as evidence of public opinion about a situation....
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 09:53 (Ref:950720)   #13
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Surely you should know that it's Tom KELLEY.

It seems like Greg may have a good case in real terms, but I suspect Foyt was smart enough to cover his back and ensure that nothing was recorded of the deal by anyone neutral, so he'd be unable to get recours. Maybe that succession of problems is what caused him to set up Access, cutting out the middleman.
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Its more that any words in here could be printed off and used in a court as evidence of public opinion about a situation....
Opinion evidence is inadmissible except from a suitably qualified expert, and only then with the Court's express permission. In this case opinion evidence is entirely useless - you need opinion evidence for e.g. personal injury cases to assess damage or a computer expert to determine if code was negligently drafted.
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Why did Greg let so much time pass?
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