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Old 22 Mar 2006, 23:09 (Ref:1557875)   #1
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WTCC goes virtual

The FIA WTCC will go virtual. The Swedish game producers SimBin have recently acquired license for the World Touring Car Championship. SimBin have produced titles such as GTR and GT Legends, highly popular racing simulators.

- We are very proud to have been given this prestigious assignment - having in mind that the FIA Organisation only has three world championships, Formula One, WRC and WTCC, said Henrik Roos SimBin CEO and former professional race driver.

- This is an agreement that the team and myself have worked hard to achieve, actually since 2004, and it is most inspiring to finally have reached the goal. WTCC gives us the opportunity to use our combined experience within motor sports and game development to the fullest. It will be very exciting to work closely with the 25 teams, car manufacturers and Eurosport/KSO, Roos continued.

- We have looked for a game developer with the experience and knowledge to take the intense and adrenaline pumping experience of WTCC racing into the world of video gaming. SimBin with its motor sport background and excellent track record from it´s previous game titles will secure that our racing fans as well as gamers can expect a WTCC game of top quality. The results are expected to be enjoyed on PC and Next gen consoles, Jaques Behar, KSO Chairman and Eurosport executive comments.

- WTCC is a completely new challenge with its own positioning: bumper to bumper, action packed, hard hitting. WTCC features race cars of similar power, road holding and aerodynamics that are based on real street cars which people can recognize. This will allow us to create intense games that attract a wide audience - just like the real life WTCC races, Tomas Karlsson, SimBin COO, explains.

No exact date for the release is set. Though SimBin is currently working hard to get GTR2 ready for release this summer, so we cannot expect anything before that release.
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Old 22 Mar 2006, 23:21 (Ref:1557886)   #2
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Fantastic news, Simbin are one of the best computer racing simulation companies around and Im sure they will do the WTCC justice.
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Old 23 Mar 2006, 00:05 (Ref:1557912)   #3
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Thats great news , GTR is the best race game ever, the guys from SimBin really know what they are doing.

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Old 23 Mar 2006, 07:51 (Ref:1558078)   #4
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Great news! That's what ive been waitinjg for!
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Old 23 Mar 2006, 12:14 (Ref:1558464)   #5
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Great ! It's time to start thinking seriously about updating my PC
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Old 23 Mar 2006, 12:34 (Ref:1558473)   #6
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Yeah, whilst everyone sings the praises of GTR, I found the game to be merely "OK". I thought the physics were mostly good, and the game overall was OK, however I really wasn't keen on the graphics engine. They were using an old Direct X 7 engine, ancient considering we are up to Direct X 9C and Direct X 10 is rapidly approaching.

Thankfully, GTR2 will use a Direct X 9 graphics engine, so this should improve things measurably.
I just hope this WTCC game uses it too.
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Old 23 Mar 2006, 17:48 (Ref:1558721)   #7
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Old 23 Mar 2006, 18:08 (Ref:1558743)   #8
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On which season is the game based? If I am correct GTR2 will have cars from 2004.
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Old 24 Mar 2006, 18:11 (Ref:1559788)   #9
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Yep, WTCC is a game I cant wait to play.

However, now Simbin have the licence, I guess that shoots down in flames any hopes of Codemasters incorporating the WTCC into its TRD series.
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 18:07 (Ref:1560440)   #10
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Yep, WTCC is a game I cant wait to play.

However, now Simbin have the licence, I guess that shoots down in flames any hopes of Codemasters incorporating the WTCC into its TRD series.
Thank God. Codemasters are doing arcade stuff only. Btw there has been a split of the Simbin developer team. It's said the good guys are now with Blimey, so it remains to be seen if Simbin can deliver another great product like GTR/GTL.
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 20:08 (Ref:1560491)   #11
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Thank God. Codemasters are doing arcade stuff only. Btw there has been a split of the Simbin developer team. It's said the good guys are now with Blimey, so it remains to be seen if Simbin can deliver another great product like GTR/GTL.
Without trying to over-simplifise things, all they have to do is create new tracks if needed, and design new cars.

The physics engine I guess will be ported over from GTR / GTL / GTR2, albeit with differing handling values.
There really isn't much Simbin needs to do apart from some track modelling, car skinning, and physics tweaks.
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 20:18 (Ref:1560495)   #12
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it hasnt beed decided which engine will be used for the WTCC game .. they are looking for a new engine
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 20:46 (Ref:1560508)   #13
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Sounds good hope my PC is still healthy then so I can give it a shot!
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 21:59 (Ref:1560566)   #14
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Sounds good!

Should be an improvement on World Touring Cars on the PS1!!
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Old 25 Mar 2006, 22:18 (Ref:1560583)   #15
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it hasnt beed decided which engine will be used for the WTCC game .. they are looking for a new engine
"New" as in, cheaper...?

I wonder how much they paid to use the rFactor engine?
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Old 26 Mar 2006, 01:30 (Ref:1560710)   #16
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About time someone got hold of a licence to do a WTCC game. The Toca series have been really good but they've been the only games along those lines. Will be nice to recreate Andy Priaulx's title triumph....better start saving for my PS3 now then!
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Thank God. Codemasters are doing arcade stuff only. Btw there has been a split of the Simbin developer team. It's said the good guys are now with Blimey, so it remains to be seen if Simbin can deliver another great product like GTR/GTL.
I'm sorry, but have you actually tried Race Driver 3 on Pro simulation mode with a decent Steering wheel!?

I've played a lot of racing games in my time, and I have to say that Race Driver 3 cannot be described as Arcade. Ok, maybe it hasn't got quite the plethora of setup options that something like GTR racing has, but how many people who arn't "Grognards" actually use half those options in GTR anyway?

Race Driver 3 can be as simple or complicated as you want it to be. Which is more that can be said for GTR which can only really be complicated. However, Simbin it appears has seen the light and if GT Legends is anything to go buy then they also are heading more towards the "Codemaster's way" of doing things.
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Old 26 Mar 2006, 20:08 (Ref:1561552)   #18
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To be honest I hope they'll won't go the Codemaster way. TOCA 1 and TOCA 2 were really good but they ****ed it up with the Race Driver games. I hope the WTCC game CAN BE complicated if you want to.
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I'm sorry, but have you actually tried Race Driver 3 on Pro simulation mode with a decent Steering wheel!?

I've played a lot of racing games in my time, and I have to say that Race Driver 3 cannot be described as Arcade. Ok, maybe it hasn't got quite the plethora of setup options that something like GTR racing has, but how many people who arn't "Grognards" actually use half those options in GTR anyway?

Race Driver 3 can be as simple or complicated as you want it to be. Which is more that can be said for GTR which can only really be complicated. However, Simbin it appears has seen the light and if GT Legends is anything to go buy then they also are heading more towards the "Codemaster's way" of doing things.
I've driven both of them. GTR is miles ahead. For sure Race Driver isnt completely a arcade game as before, but a simulation isn't the word for it.
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Some of the cars handle quite realistically in TRD3 pro sim mode, whereas others handle terribly.

The Clios handle very well and authentically in TRD3, whereas some of the single seaters, and I think the Honda NSX's handle woefully.
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Some of the cars handle quite realistically in TRD3 pro sim mode, whereas others handle terribly.

The Clios handle very well and authentically in TRD3, whereas some of the single seaters, and I think the Honda NSX's handle woefully.
Well I haven't tried all the cars yet, but I particulary enjoy taking a Mitsubishi Evo around Laguna Seca in Pro Sim mode with my MOMO steering wheel.
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I'm sorry, but have you actually tried Race Driver 3 on Pro simulation mode with a decent Steering wheel!?
As decent as this:

I'm a simracing nerd. Have been since Indycar2/GPL. TRD is ****, imho of course .
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Lets keep the discussion to the WTCC-game
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I'm a simracing nerd. Have been since Indycar2/GPL. TRD is ****, imho of course .
I pity you, I really do.
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