Panoz GTR1 &GTS

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 13:52 (Ref:764561)

Has anyone got any pictures of the GTR-1 testing for the 1000km race. Apparantly it has some new aero bits and is quite a bit different from the original car.

In a recent interview Panoz said the new GTS car would be based on the GTR-1. Could the car competing at the LM 1000km be a development hack for the new Audi engined Panoz GTS car.

Dani Filth · 27 Oct 2003, 15:35 (Ref:764664)

Audi engined Panoz GTS??? .. this is news to me ... what engine .. the V8??? W12 ??? a turbo???

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 15:40 (Ref:764670)

V8 Twin Turbo developed by Elan. Chassis based o Esperante GT with modifications and a bodyshell based on the GTR1.

Due end of 2004. Customer car only

Apparently, anyway.

gttouring · 27 Oct 2003, 15:46 (Ref:764676)

yeah right such a tasty blend of goodies would go racing right from the customers garage

Dani Filth · 27 Oct 2003, 15:51 (Ref:764684)

V8 Turbo .. for GTS . it would be the first .. all the others are using big N/A V8 or V12 ... could be intresting ..

SALEEN S7R · 27 Oct 2003, 16:33 (Ref:764717)

Dont forget the Viper, thats a N/A V10.

Mal · 27 Oct 2003, 17:53 (Ref:764805)

This is of the Crash.net website showing pictures of the Panoz

http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view...d=28&nid=79881

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 19:14 (Ref:764914)

Does nobody else find it strange there has been so much effort put into updating the GTR1, rather than just running the old car. Afterall it is only supposed to be a last farewell to the fans.

There must be some developments put into this car that will be seen on the new GTS car?

gttouring · 27 Oct 2003, 19:15 (Ref:764918)

it look s abit different, aspecially the rear deck, as if it was extended, the edges aren't as abrupt as i remeber the original being...

Fab · 27 Oct 2003, 19:21 (Ref:764923)

This one is shown on the SpiritOf site, but copyright by Panoz...

Some of the news given by Jag are confirmed by this site...

Sorry, the pic is the same that given above by Mal.

gttouring · 27 Oct 2003, 19:38 (Ref:764947)

so the GTR1 Panoz is going to run as a GTS car?
how is it not gonna clobber the comers?
it was a gt1 car wasn't it?

billnchristy · 27 Oct 2003, 19:39 (Ref:764951)

The car doesnt look real...pretty cool, has much better lines than the original I think...as if batman put an aero package on his stock batmobile

BobN · 27 Oct 2003, 19:44 (Ref:764954)

Quote:

Originally posted by JAG
Does nobody else find it strange there has been so much effort put into updating the GTR1, rather than just running the old car. Afterall it is only supposed to be a last farewell to the fans.

There must be some developments put into this car that will be seen on the new GTS car?

It's my understanding there isn't an old coupe. They converted chassis #3 back to a GTR1.It was orginally an GTR1, then converted to an LMP1. Now back.

Chevyguy · 27 Oct 2003, 19:49 (Ref:764957)

gttouring, did you click on Mal's thumbnail? GTP.

SALEEN S7R · 27 Oct 2003, 19:49 (Ref:764958)

Quote:

Originally posted by gttouring
so the GTR1 Panoz is going to run as a GTS car?
how is it not gonna clobber the comers?
it was a gt1 car wasn't it?

Yep it was, but lets not forget that the GTS cars have moved on signifcantly since the Panoz last raced, and with the new breed of GTS cars coming in next season such as the new Maserati its debatable as to whether or not the Panoz would be faster.

By the way, didnt the GT1 cars weight 900kg? If the car intends to run in GTS it will weigh 1100kg like the rest of the GTS machines, therefore making it a little bit slower than it will be at the LM 1000KM meeting in Novemeber where its running to the GTP regulations.

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 20:16 (Ref:764982)

As I understand it the new GTS car will not have a carbon chassis like the GTR-1 but will be based on the new GT Espernate chassis. The body will resmeble that of the GTR-1 however.

The car was expected early next year, but the arrival of the new generation GTS cars seems to have delayed the project, in order to way up the opposition first.

And yes Saleen the GT1 cars did run at 900kg. Theres been much talk of increasing the speed of GTS cars to compete for overall wins, but the ACO have now said any GTS car wishing to go for overall wins can enter LMGTP (and take advantage of the 900kg weight etc.) and any other aero mods. So we may well see the 'new' Audi engined GTR-1 compete for overall wins in LMGTP eventually.

BobN · 27 Oct 2003, 20:24 (Ref:765000)

Quote:

Originally posted by SALEEN S7R
Yep it was, but lets not forget that the GTS cars have moved on signifcantly since the Panoz last raced, and with the new breed of GTS cars coming in next season such as the new Maserati its debatable as to whether or not the Panoz would be faster.

By way of example the GTR1 ran 1:17.4 in qual for the Laguna round of the 1998 FIAGT race about a second off the AMG Mercs. The Prodrive 550 ran 1:22.35 for pole at Laguna this year. The GTR should more than hold its own against a GTS car would be my guess.

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 21:14 (Ref:765036)

The advantage of the GTR-1 is its high downforce aerodynamics. Which of course will only be matched by cars like the new purpose built Masarati GTS car.

gttouring · 27 Oct 2003, 22:25 (Ref:765136)

wonderful a panoz revival! i hope they can afford jan Magnussen again

JAG · 27 Oct 2003, 22:54 (Ref:765166)

Quote:

Originally posted by gttouring
wonderful a panoz revival! i hope they can afford jan Magnussen again

The cars will be for customers only.

But if you could get the likes of DAMS running cars they would be up there with the Masaratis/Ferrari's etc.

917Addicted · 28 Oct 2003, 09:41 (Ref:765521)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mal
This is of the Crash.net website showing pictures of the Panoz

http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view...d=28&nid=79881

Now that is how a car should look (even though I don't like front-engine cars (McLaren-Mercedes

)).

The way I see things, this "Supercar" rules might ressurect some cars from the past (anyone wanting to race a 911GT1 or a McLaren (with the 6,1 BMW engine

)

pink69 · 28 Oct 2003, 12:10 (Ref:765625)

How come the GTP car didn't run in the PLM??? I thought they were bringing it back for that event, yet all the photo's I've seen show the LMP-01 racing!

JAG · 28 Oct 2003, 17:38 (Ref:765936)

GTR-1s final fling in the LM 1000K not PLM. A still think its being used as a development hack for the new GTS cars.

ginettag27 · 29 Oct 2003, 11:41 (Ref:766817)

All I can say is 'yum yum!' can't wait to see it in a couple of weeks time

Speedworx · 29 Oct 2003, 20:34 (Ref:767354)

Panoz should race this car full time. The LMP-01 has always been a bit on the **** side.

This is the proper Panoz.

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