Channel 7 coverage a.k.a.Shafted/Let's be Honest.

Da Moo · 22 Apr 2007, 17:50 (Ref:1897833)

So Mabs....still not going to criticise 7 even after dropping v8s for AFL?? And message to you Tony "we will be treated equally to afl" Cochrane - what a joke.

racer69 · 22 Apr 2007, 19:13 (Ref:1897874)

How did 7 drop the V8s for the AFL??

The 7 telecast was advertised as running from 12-3pm, which it did.

It's the AFL fans who should feel shafted, they are the one's who had their game cut to in the second quarter....

STEALTHY · 22 Apr 2007, 19:14 (Ref:1897877)

yeah, but 10 always had a telecast from 1-5, an hour more. Which means both races would have had plenty of time.

Trevor · 22 Apr 2007, 20:37 (Ref:1897971)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

yeah, but 10 always had a telecast from 1-5, an hour more. Which means both races would have had plenty of time.

On Sunday ONLY, with a replay of Saturday's race on 10.30pm Sat night.

bathurst · 23 Apr 2007, 00:12 (Ref:1898091)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

yeah, but 10 always had a telecast from 1-5, an hour more. Which means both races would have had plenty of time.

Do you want to see racing slightly delayed or hours delayed? If you had telecast on sunday 1-5pm then when it finished it would be 7pm in NZ. It's not the first time race has been shortened due to tv. Ch10 did it too few years ago. Sandown and Tasmania or Bathurst.

Falcadore · 22 Apr 2007, 21:15 (Ref:1897998)

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EfiOz · 22 Apr 2007, 22:35 (Ref:1898045)

Shortening a race to fit a TV schedule is pretty ridiculous and hardly shows equality of treatment.

Even though the second quarter TV footage was cut short, the game still wasn't.

Joe5619 · 23 Apr 2007, 06:29 (Ref:1898240)

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Originally Posted by EfiOz

Shortening a race to fit a TV schedule is pretty ridiculous and hardly shows equality of treatment.

Even though the second quarter TV footage was cut short, the game still wasn't.

why is channel 7 getting blamed for the race being cut short?? the telecast was an hour delayed. They could have raced for another hour & not have effected channel 7. I can only ashume the time cut off had something to do with the sun light?

I knew the result of the race before it even started on TV!!

Senna05 · 22 Apr 2007, 22:53 (Ref:1898057)

Ever see Channel 9 say to the NRL "Sorry, this golden point thing is rubbish. We need to get to our Fishing show."?

That what it equates to. That 1 lap dash was a Farce. A waste of petrol, they should have just called it.

10 used to get criticised for alot of things, and alot of these same things are occuring. Except now the sound production is sucky, there are multiple camera or colouring errors, and people being called "Winterbong". Humble pie, anyone?

V8RYAN · 22 Apr 2007, 23:00 (Ref:1898061)

he said "winterBUM" it was supposed to be a joke

TSR · 23 Apr 2007, 01:25 (Ref:1898112)

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Originally Posted by Senna05

Ever see Channel 9 say to the NRL "Sorry, this golden point thing is rubbish. We need to get to our Fishing show."?

That what it equates to. That 1 lap dash was a Farce. A waste of petrol, they should have just called it.

10 used to get criticised for alot of things, and alot of these same things are occuring. Except now the sound production is sucky, there are multiple camera or colouring errors, and people being called "Winterbong". Humble pie, anyone?

CH9 do hold up the Friday night NRL to wait for the commericals to finish.

I really feel sorry for GT, as someone said earlier on this thread, how would he feel to loose the taxi championship to Teflon Crash Bandicoot.
But that just goes to show what a series we have under TEGA,VE$A and Aussie Bernie

Captain · 23 Apr 2007, 02:01 (Ref:1898125)

Why are we blaming 7 for this? We've had races with laps trimmed before, we've seen an Indy Car race finish under yellow from Surfer's and we've seen it happen in F1.

Scheduling commitments are important, important for broadcasters and other areas, the tracks have schedules to work to, sometimes crew are on tight schedules to get packed up and leave and there are many more scenarios that could be put forward.

The entire race to the chequered flag was run and won and broadcast. No one wants to see races finish under yellow or near to it, but the rules are there for a reason. Let's leave the complaining for when we do miss the end of a race.

Da Moo · 23 Apr 2007, 02:30 (Ref:1898134)

The whole issue is that when 7 got the rights we were all told that afl would not take precedence blah blah blah blah.....yes we got to see the end of the race but we also got a clear indication of 7s priority and that v8s are not even close to equal no matter what avesco say or wish to beleive.

Falcadore · 23 Apr 2007, 03:16 (Ref:1898162)

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Originally Posted by Da Moo

The whole issue is that when 7 got the rights we were all told that afl would not take precedence blah blah blah blah.....yes we got to see the end of the race but we also got a clear indication of 7s priority and that v8s are not even close to equal no matter what avesco say or wish to beleive.

AFL didn't take precedence. If it did, Race 3 would not have been shown at all and the Melborne Freo clash would have started at the start of the first quarter rather than three quarters of an hour into the game.

Move on.

PVDA · 23 Apr 2007, 02:31 (Ref:1898135)

Perhaps they should look at having a travelling circus of marshals similar to NASCAR/CART/IRL that do all the Medical and clean up at events.

I saw Canto's off and the start of the recovery and walked out of the room and was surprised to see they still hadn't restarted when I returned for what looked to be a simple recovery.

One of the first things I'd do is get proper tow hooks fitted front and rear and ban those stupid tow straps which always break. The tow hooks need to be centre mounted and have to be designed to allow the truck winch to pull the car around at 90 degrees so it can be lined up properly to get it onto the tray.

Before anyone asks, I am qualified to comment on these trackside issues having dragged many a race car (v8's included) onto tilt trays throughout Victoria.

BFC · 23 Apr 2007, 10:48 (Ref:1898407)

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Originally Posted by PVDA

Perhaps they should look at having a travelling circus of marshals similar to NASCAR/CART/IRL that do all the Medical and clean up at events.

I saw Canto's off and the start of the recovery and walked out of the room and was surprised to see they still hadn't restarted when I returned for what looked to be a simple recovery.

One of the first things I'd do is get proper tow hooks fitted front and rear and ban those stupid tow straps which always break. The tow hooks need to be centre mounted and have to be designed to allow the truck winch to pull the car around at 90 degrees so it can be lined up properly to get it onto the tray.

Before anyone asks, I am qualified to comment on these trackside issues having dragged many a race car (v8's included) onto tilt trays throughout Victoria.

yep both of us

Trev Campbell · 22 Apr 2007, 23:21 (Ref:1898065)

I though it was disgracful, How would Tander feel if he loses the championship by a couple of points. You could pretty confidently say that Tander would have made a position or 2 if the race had of gone the full distance.

Falcadore · 23 Apr 2007, 03:14 (Ref:1898160)

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Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

I though it was disgracful, How would Tander feel if he loses the championship by a couple of points. You could pretty confidently say that Tander would have made a position or 2 if the race had of gone the full distance.

I would have thought Tander would have been used to that feeling after what HRT did to him in 2006. But that's also selling Paul Radisich a little short on his second meeting back in a car hie's not driven much at all. There's nothing to say the Rat couldn't have held him off for a few more laps. The race was always going to be shortened the moment Canto went into the wall. Shortening races for TV has been going on at least since the 1992 Sandown 500, and that was SBS if memory recalls, when Tony Longhurst and Paul Morris came within a single lap of escaping with a shortened win ahead of the faster Larry Perkins who overtook the little Beemer on the last lap.

Trev you play the card you're dealt. Despite what happened at Phillip Island Craig Lowndes (and Tander for that matter) has accepted that he was not the 2006 champion and moved on, as he(they) should have. I'm sure Tander won't spare a moments thought on what ifs and maybe thens, because he's a professional athlete.

Maybe you should to.

Tazio · 23 Apr 2007, 00:06 (Ref:1898088)

I think we should we have the Nascar system of Green,White,Checker to allow at least a chance for drivers to fight for position.

Garth wasnt overly quick after his stop. I thought he would make up places quicker.

johnh875 · 23 Apr 2007, 00:12 (Ref:1898092)

Ifs and buts are part of motorsport. If the race was always scheduled as a "time-certain" race (to use a Cromleyism) then they can't complain. I agree the one lap at the end was a joke, perhaps as alluded to on the commentary Tim Schenken doesn't want to end a race under yellows at all cost.

As was mentioned in the other thread, why should the NZV8 last race in the series suffer/be cut because of mishaps in the V8SC?

dsg · 23 Apr 2007, 01:17 (Ref:1898108)

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Originally Posted by johnh875

As was mentioned in the other thread, why should the NZV8 last race in the series suffer/be cut because of mishaps in the V8SC?

Because the V8 Supercars are the main event? I wouldn't think you would cut the main event short so a support race is not delayed.

goosel · 23 Apr 2007, 02:41 (Ref:1898141)

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Originally Posted by johnh875

Ifs and buts are part of motorsport. If the race was always scheduled as a "time-certain" race (to use a Cromleyism) then they can't complain. I agree the one lap at the end was a joke, perhaps as alluded to on the commentary Tim Schenken doesn't want to end a race under yellows at all cost.

As was mentioned in the other thread, why should the NZV8 last race in the series suffer/be cut because of mishaps in the V8SC?

That's all well and good, but reports show the teams were only made aware of the time commitments while the safety car was out.

IMO, they should have been made aware of this commitment BEFORE the race even started.

Also, I would rather see a COMPLETE race, delayed if need be, than some live half arsed cut short display, to cater for footy.

Tourer · 23 Apr 2007, 05:51 (Ref:1898207)

The reports that you mention are not correct - the time certain finish for the race was in the regs for the weekend, covered off in the briefings and all teams were fully aware of the situation.

Whether or not the time certain finish is a good thing or not is another question but the teams were all fully aware long before the weekend, let alone race three, started.

stmorri · 23 Apr 2007, 02:39 (Ref:1898140)

I don't care what Tander thinks......it doesn't matter to me which Holden wins the championship......it will still be a black day!

Micklegend · 23 Apr 2007, 03:13 (Ref:1898158)

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Originally Posted by stmorri

I don't care what Tander thinks......it doesn't matter to me which Holden wins the championship......it will still be a black day!

Its pretty arrogant of Tander to assume he was going to make up the position to win the round, isnt it? Of course anyone in front of him should just move aside because GT shouldnt have to fight for a position??????

Play to the whistle GT....its not your championship...........Yet

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