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Old 6 Jul 2005, 13:23 (Ref:1348758)   #26
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Spritle has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
I want rules that guarantee the F1 will remain the fastest and most technologically advanced form of motor sport. The closer F1 gets to a spec series; as it will if all of the 2008 rules are adopted; the less I like it.

It will be interesting what F1 cars do in Montreal compared to their Champ Car counterparts after the V8 engine rule takes effect. I for one will be very disappointed if the difference is negligible or nonexistent. I want F1 to go forward not backward.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 13:30 (Ref:1348769)   #27
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I agree I want to see more driver control in the racing and I want to see racing for position on the track and not by strategy. I'm not convinced that concentrating on the fuel element is the way forward though. I think pit stops could still happen for areas like tyres and then surely the dynamics of the car would change dramatically as the fuel load changed in which case we might see aerodynamic pits stops happening to adjust downforce, replace nosecones and even tweak suspension to deal with the change in handling accordingly.

This is not a serious idea but a just for laugh comment before someone jumps on me but how about that at the start of each GP weekend the drivers are put into a hat and then each team pulls out a name according to their finishing positions ie 1st gets first pick and so on .... This could lead to some really interesting races and the unveiling of driver skill as to who can get the most out of a new car the quickest !! I know its not feasible but what a fun thought !
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 13:34 (Ref:1348773)   #28
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It will be interesting what F1 cars do in Montreal compared to their Champ Car counterparts after the V8 engine rule takes effect. I for one will be very disappointed if the difference is negligible or nonexistent. I want F1 to go forward not backward.
I am very confident that the F1 cars will continue to be much faster than any other formula. The drop in bhp isn't going to be nearly as much as you might think, plus the cars themselves will continue to get quicker from a chassis/aero standpoint.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1348774)   #29
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You may run on pump fuel as laid out by current FIA regulations, OR you may run on Bioethanol.
Bioethanol is basically a diesel replacement though isn't it?
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 14:34 (Ref:1348818)   #30
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Solar powered.

Lets face it,We are just going backwards with an internal combustion engine.

Every time someone comes up with new technology they either ban it before its fully developed ie;turbines,four wheel drive,twin steer wheels,fan cars or wait till teams have spent millions on developing and testing then they ban it ie:ground effects,turbo charging,active suspension,traction control.

Solar power,it would be good for the ecology,technically challenging and would drastically slow down the cars.

Sure it will be boring,but after the USGP would we notice?
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Old 8 Jul 2005, 09:28 (Ref:1350202)   #31
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What about elastic bands?
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Old 8 Jul 2005, 12:19 (Ref:1350280)   #32
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I would like to see more racing innovations appear on road cars, to this end;
Max engine size 3 litres, cylinder number and configuration free.
Formula 1 = 3 litres
Formula 2 = 2.5 litres
Formula 3 = 2 litres
Tyres, free. With all the fancy construction something might filter down to road tyres.
Bigger size = more grip but more drag, see what size they settle for.
Brakes free. something might filter down to road cars.
No traction control. Now it is on road cars, make the racing drivers do it. Same with ABS.
Standard pump fuel only, 80 litre size fuel tank with no refueling, to encourage more economic engines. 1 hour 30mins racing, not number of laps.
No cooling of fuel.
I like racing59 ideas for fuel, bonus points for fuel in tank at the end; lapped cars score 0 on this. You must be fast to score anything; you must be economic to score something.
No penalties for engine failures (a failure itself is enough of a penalty).
Max and min width, length, height, size and weight. Narrow enough to help overtaking.
Limit down force to help allow slip streaming again.
Allow active/reactive suspension again, until it is developed enough to appear on road cars, and then ban it again.



Thats enough to start with. lol
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Old 8 Jul 2005, 20:10 (Ref:1350566)   #33
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full ground effect cars with sliding skirts. no over car aero except for tiny front and rear wings. active suspension to keep the cars at a nice ride height throughout.
drivers get 2 sets of tyres to use during qualifying and the race. 1 set of tyres to be a hard compound, 1 set of tyres to be soft. you must start the race on the tyres you used for qualifiying.
no traction control, but i would keep semi-auto gears, maybe make them use a stick though.
choice of 3 litre n/a engines or 1 litre blown engines (this displacement can be altered depending on competitiveness). also each car is assigned a set amount of fuel for the weekend, to include all practice sessions.
some races to run to 300km such as monza for a bit of variety in distance, and because this race is always over much quicker than most others.
that is all for now.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 16:51 (Ref:1351221)   #34
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Way to much gear changes take place in a GP to utilize H shift manual gear boxes and a foot operated clutch... I can see many blown engines and destroyed transmissions.

Done with qualifying...get a 20 side coin and let the drivers call and flip it.

I feel qualifying should be different from the race day.... do what u have to do at qualifying..use what ever fuel u want.. tires etc... make it 12 laps... then u can refuel / change tires on race day
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Old 7 Aug 2005, 10:52 (Ref:1374210)   #35
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Aerodynamics
- Restricted ground effect by reintroducing venturis, just like in the American open-wheel series and GP2. This will make the car far less dependent to the wings, hence overtaking easier.
- Restrict the wings on the car.
- Car width of 200cm.

Tyres
- Reintroducion of the wide, fat slicks.
- No limitations to tyre usage.
- Drivers should be free to change compound whenever they like - even in the race.

Engines
- Introduction of 4000cc or 4500cc normal aspirated engines and 1500cc turbo engines.
- Abolition of one engine rule.
- No restricting rules for materials, constructions and minimum weight.
- A championship for engine manufactors, comparable with the constructors' championship.

Electronics
- Introduction of a standard ECU, but engine manufactors and teams should be able to change its configuration. This means a ban on traction control as well.

Pitstops
- Reintroduction of tyre changes.
- A ban on refuelling during the race.

Qualifying
- A 60 minutes qualifying session without any restriction to laps, engines and tyres.

Point system
1st - 10 pts
2nd - 6 pts
3rd - 4 pts
4th - 3 pts
5th - 2 pts
6th - 1 pt
Pole - 1 pt
Fastest lap - 1 pt

Testing
- Teams should get a individual choice between unlimited testing during the first and second part of the season, or only tests at 10 days per season part with the a third car during all free practises.

Car acquisition
- Every teams should be free to buy or sell chassis, designs, etc.
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Old 7 Aug 2005, 15:38 (Ref:1374351)   #36
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Smaller/fewer-elements wings, no additional spurious planes sprouting from the body
Limited underbody venturis.
Slicks
No refuelling
No limit to tire changes
2.4 liter NA engines, cylinder count OPEN
Bigger points gap 1-2 than 2-3
Points back to 10th
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Old 8 Aug 2005, 00:36 (Ref:1374583)   #37
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my rules

the first rule of F1 is that you dont talk about f1 (PR nightmare?)


slicks
less aero
more mechanical grip
more power than grip
no traction or launch control
h pattern gearbox (driver must take his hands from the wheel to change gear.
international ban on tilke tracks
back to 1 hour qualifying with 12 laps
qualifying tyres
each engine supplied must supply a works and a customer team
no engine configuration rules limitted to 2.5litres
get more teams back in, lets have pre qualifying and full grids

cars must create sparks when they bottom out or from the edges of the wings touching the ground ala early 90's
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Old 8 Aug 2005, 06:53 (Ref:1374666)   #38
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No engine restrictions. They can run whichever displacement they want... but naturally a 6ltr engine in a F1 car will be too heavy..

You may see one team run a big engine and be competitive at Monza and Canada, and then another team run a small engine and be competitive at Monaco and Hungary.

Ban Refuelling and Tyre Changes.

Ban Wings

Bring Back ground effects (and maybe the brabham fan car :P )
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Old 8 Aug 2005, 08:57 (Ref:1374742)   #39
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ss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
pretty similar to 08 proposals but I'd allow 2.4 litre engines or restricted 3 litres of any configuration - hell go single cylinder if you are stupid enough.

bit more freedom on the tyre width - keep the maximum car & tyre widths at what is in the proposals but allow for any tyre within that - remember when tyrell were smart enough to run front wheels on thier rear hubs to reduce drag at Hockenhiem in I think 95.

keep the simple aero package as proposed in the 08 rules

not sure about control parts. But could be convinced

customer chassis - mega idea - but open up the customer chassis rules abit to allow them to fit different engines.

Refuelling - leave it as it is
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Old 8 Aug 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1375022)   #40
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my rules

the first rule of F1 is that you dont talk about f1 (PR nightmare?)


slicks
less aero
more mechanical grip
more power than grip
no traction or launch control
h pattern gearbox (driver must take his hands from the wheel to change gear.
international ban on tilke tracks
back to 1 hour qualifying with 12 laps
qualifying tyres
each engine supplied must supply a works and a customer team
no engine configuration rules limitted to 2.5litres
get more teams back in, lets have pre qualifying and full grids

cars must create sparks when they bottom out or from the edges of the wings touching the ground ala early 90's
Sounds good to me.
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