Can you do your harness up with you crash helmet and/or HANS device on? - Page 3

Eddy V · 4 Oct 2006, 20:13 (Ref:1728007)

Ah, sometimes I'm smart. Not often, just sometimes.

Put a bigger piece of velcro on the seat and a smaller piece on the belt, so that you always hit the patch.
Put some tank tape on the bottom of the seat where the crutch strap goes, so it can never slip down the hole.

Rallying tricks.

Al Weyman · 4 Oct 2006, 20:14 (Ref:1728010)

They were on there from new got them from Rally Design and always wonderd what they were for.

StephenRae · 5 Oct 2006, 08:51 (Ref:1728519)

Dtype...I'm sure all will be well...I hope the b....y thing fires up again after all our good advice

**dtype38** · 5 Oct 2006, 15:50 (Ref:1728954)

Aha... you spotted the fatal flaw in the plan. If past experience of various on track "moments" is anything to go by it usually takes up to a couple of minutes (literally - ie over a lap) to get the thing to fire up again. I think the problem is that the heat builds up quite quickly under the bonnet, soaking into the carbs and the intake air and making to fuel vapourise too easily in the emulsion tubes. Or something like that anyway!

I specifically spoke the organiser on this point. His answer was that I wasn't the only one with this problem.... but rules is rules.

Ho-hum.

StephenRae · 6 Oct 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1729784)

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Originally Posted by dtype38

Aha... you spotted the fatal flaw in the plan. If past experience of various on track "moments" is anything to go by it usually takes up to a couple of minutes (literally - ie over a lap) to get the thing to fire up again. I think the problem is that the heat builds up quite quickly under the bonnet, soaking into the carbs and the intake air and making to fuel vapourise too easily in the emulsion tubes. Or something like that anyway
Ho-hum.

I don't think it is, I think when you spin it invariably stalls even though you think you have 'caught it', if you can live with running the tickover at about 2000 revs (I can't) this doesn't happen. It would probably be best not to switch it off until you actually start your 'toure de car'

**dtype38** · 6 Oct 2006, 15:57 (Ref:1730052)

Ok, good idea Stephen.

Re: not catching a the engine during a spin, I used to have that problem. Then I analysed what I actually did and spotted a flaw. It was a throwback from my days in direct drive karts when there was no way to keep the engine running in a spin. In that situation the priority was to lock up the brakes and keep the kart moving in a "predictable" direction (we all know there's nothing worse than someone letting off the brakes and suddenly shooting off in another direction). Anyway, I realised I was dipping the clutch as an afterthough rather than before the rear wheels stopped turning. In the two spins I've had since, I've kept the engine running, so I'm hoping that means I've successfully reprogrammed my feet. :-)

Suze · 7 Oct 2006, 17:16 (Ref:1730828)

Was it a one or two day meeting? Ie if today, how was it?

**dtype38** · 7 Oct 2006, 21:05 (Ref:1730999)

It was just a one day.... today.

I had a word around the paddock and found a couple of sensible chaps from someone else's crew to help me do the pit stop. They practiced a couple of times and were very good. I didn't need to take my gloves off, or worry about placing my belts or finding the buckle again. They did all that.

In the event, one of the straps was slightly reluctant and caused a few seconds delay, but everything else went great and my pit stop took a very similar time to most of the two driver stops.

Oh, and I won.

PS Thanks to all the Snetterton flag marshals today for doing a brilliant job with the blue flags. It made getting through the slower cars a doddle.

Al Weyman · 7 Oct 2006, 21:34 (Ref:1731013)

Congratulations DType!

**dtype38** · 8 Oct 2006, 09:50 (Ref:1731614)

I thank you kindly.

Suze · 8 Oct 2006, 17:00 (Ref:1732046)

Congratulations dtype, good you had some help and fantastic result!

Chris Y · 9 Oct 2006, 08:30 (Ref:1732629)

Well done Ken - nice result

StephenRae · 9 Oct 2006, 08:58 (Ref:1732655)

Glad it worked out so well...cogratulations!

**dtype38** · 9 Oct 2006, 19:02 (Ref:1733294)

Thanks All !

To be honest I was genuinely surprised to win. I had absolutely no idea where I was after the round of pit stops so I just drove the wheels off trying to maximise every lap. I was lapping lots of cars, but there was no way to tell if the next one up the track had a cracking pitstop and was ahead of me for position. When I took the last lap board I couldn't tell how long it had been out and I could see a couple of cars up ahead so I went all out on the last lap and got ahead of one through the Bomb Hole and caught that second out of Russel Bend. It was only then I saw the last lap board was still out, and as I arrived it get pulled in and the chequered go out........

Then I went ....

midgetman · 9 Oct 2006, 19:57 (Ref:1733329)

Congratulations DT38.....but to go back to the title of the thread, it's spooky 'cos I've just got back from a race and logged on to ask a similar question. I actually can't get OUT of my MG with my neck brace on unless I wriggle through the cage/door bar aperture head first and roll onto the ground. My question was going to be - how easy is it to move the neck with a HANS device? I can't duck under the roof line with the neck brace.

Oh and to answer your question, I can't do up the belt with helmet on. These small aperture Snell things don't give a big enough field of vision to see the buckle

Al, that'll be a TRS harness with the velcro pads then, very useful they are too.

Sheila M · 9 Oct 2006, 20:37 (Ref:1733371)

Hey DType! After all that worry you go and win! Well done!

Al Weyman · 9 Oct 2006, 21:27 (Ref:1733405)

Yes it is a TRS I believe so what are they for?

**dtype38** · 10 Oct 2006, 21:53 (Ref:1734556)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheila M

Hey DType! After all that worry you go and win! Well done!

Thanks Sheila.

I have three distinct stages of worry when it comes to my car...

A bit concerned - Thinks of everything that might go wrong and plan for most eventualities.
Very concerned - Actually go and make some modifications to the car and do some physical preparations just in case.
Extremely concerned - Expect doom and disaster whatever I do, so crack open a few tinnies and get ****ed instead.

That pit stop was definitely verging on a class three worry...

**dtype38** · 10 Oct 2006, 21:57 (Ref:1734559)

Quote:

Originally Posted by midgetman

Congratulations DT38.....but to go back to the title of the thread, it's spooky 'cos I've just got back from a race and logged on to ask a similar question. I actually can't get OUT of my MG with my neck brace on unless I wriggle through the cage/door bar aperture head first and roll onto the ground. My question was going to be - how easy is it to move the neck with a HANS device? I can't duck under the roof line with the neck brace.

I think that's definitely worth a separate thread on getting out of our cars quickly. I've certainly found getting out of mine much easier since I took off my front roll hoop and upper tie bars. During my pitstop I didn't even bother opening my driver door, I just stepped over it. The joys of open motoring

Oh, to answer your question, its easy when the straps are loose because it just moves around with your helmet. So much so that its easy to forget its attached. Until you undo your chin strap and try to pull your lid off that is!

Sheila M · 10 Oct 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1734564)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtype38

Thanks Sheila.

I have three distinct stages of worry when it comes to my car...

A bit concerned - Thinks of everything that might go wrong and plan for most eventualities.
Very concerned - Actually go and make some modifications to the car and do some physical preparations just in case.
Extremely concerned - Expect doom and disaster whatever I do, so crack open a few tinnies and get ****ed instead.

That pit stop was definitely verging on a class three worry...

*reaches for broomstick* Please tell me you didn't crack open the tinnies on race day BEFORE the race

JimW · 11 Oct 2006, 15:58 (Ref:1735343)

Well done DType.

Am I being unkind is thinking you might have been trying to gain a psychological advantage over your fellow competitors?

All these concerns about a pit stop.

Regards

Jim

**dtype38** · 11 Oct 2006, 22:19 (Ref:1735657)

I most definitely did not open any tinnies the evening before my race.

It had a cork...

Jim, I consider it an honour that you think me clever enough to think up such a ploy! Wish it were true.

Eddy V · 12 Oct 2006, 10:40 (Ref:1736032)

Mmm, lots of thinking here.

Well done DType.

**Tim Falce** · 12 Oct 2006, 12:01 (Ref:1736122)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtype38

Jim, I consider it an honour that you think me clever enough to think up such a ploy! Wish it were true.

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